Does Microsoft still do outlook express for windows 7.........?

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:34:25 -0400, "bj"
wrote:

I wasn't quite *that* fast & don't remember the details, it probably took me
a week or so to get around to dumping it (it got such rave reviews I wanted
to give it a decent chance to work for me) -- I went back to OE for a while
but I was still using XP and realized that someday I'd have to move on & OE
would no longer be an option. I did come to terms with WLM2009, still under
XP -- but I've been suddenly catapulted into W7 along with WLM 2011 & it's
all giving me fits & vapours.

So go back to WLM 2009 if you liked it better. Anything is better than
what you're using now.

I had to edit your post just to be able to reply to you.

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Char Jackson

Stan Brown wrote:

FWIW, when I got a 64-bit Windows 7 computer, I switched to
Thunderbird because Pegasus is not compatible (despite a statement
on the Web site).

Pegasus is 100% totally compatible, I use it with Win7 Ultimate 64 and
used it with Win7 Home Premium 64 bit.

What problems are you having? You DID RTFM didn't you and installed in
somewhere other than the default Program Files (X86) folder?


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On 4/17/2011 6:00 PM, XS11E wrote:
Stan wrote:

FWIW, when I got a 64-bit Windows 7 computer, I switched to
Thunderbird because Pegasus is not compatible (despite a statement
on the Web site).

Pegasus is 100% totally compatible, I use it with Win7 Ultimate 64 and
used it with Win7 Home Premium 64 bit.

What problems are you having? You DID RTFM didn't you and installed in
somewhere other than the default Program Files (X86) folder?


Where is the FM for Thunderbird? Its "Help" system is one of the biggest
barriers tho' I have learned to use it some. In newsgroups especially,
even if I am an inveterate mouser, I find ALT-vea: View all and ALT-veu:
View unread rather useful. It took me a while to find the toggle m for
mark read/unread but it's also a well-used command.

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:17:37 +0200, Asger-P wrote:

Hi Bob

On the: 17. of april-2011 At: 14:59 Bob Henson wrote:

Bob Smith wrote:


You using Forte Agent for the newsgroup - why not use it for e-mail too?
It
works just fine. Then you won't inflict WLM on everyone else - please
stick
to Agent for the newsgroups.

How does Forte handle Html mail and Unicode now a days ?

One hopes that it rejects them, since Usenet is a plain-text medium.

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:34:54 -0400, bj wrote:
"Lewis" wrote in message
...

Look at this post. See how it looks like you said the paragraph starting
with "Yes, I agree"?

Do not post to USENET with WLM2011,
====================================

OK so I (maybe) messed up separating quotes from my reply.
I did try. I just wasn't good enough for you, or you didn't like --
or didn't understand -- the way I did it.


You might not be aware of a big problem with your quoting style.
The way your newsreader is doing it, when someone else follows
up, it looks like you *said* what you actually only quoted.

The problem is that Windows Live Mail 2011 (version 15) has a
quoting style that is completely broken. Unfortunately that poses
a painful choice to you: either fix every quote manually, or get
a real newsreader such as Gravity, Xananews, and Forte Agent (to
mention some that come to mind at the moment). OR, if you really
want WLM, some say that WLM 14 will serve; see "SC Tom" below.

update 2011-04-02: I've seen a newsgroup posting claiming you
can un-break WLM 15 by installing and using an Autohotkey script:
http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/

Thanks for your consideration!

On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:48:13 -0500, SC Tom wrote:
Along with what the others have suggested, you can uninstall
WLM 2011 and install WLM 2009 instead, which handles quoting
a lot better:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?
FamilyID=56883de5-2024-4631-806e-757693072a1c

[or use http://tinyurl.com/25zfouw which redirects to the above]

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Shikata ga nai...

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:00:14 -0700, XS11E wrote:

Stan Brown wrote:

FWIW, when I got a 64-bit Windows 7 computer, I switched to
Thunderbird because Pegasus is not compatible (despite a statement
on the Web site).

Pegasus is 100% totally compatible, I use it with Win7 Ultimate 64 and
used it with Win7 Home Premium 64 bit.

What problems are you having? You DID RTFM didn't you and installed in
somewhere other than the default Program Files (X86) folder?

That *is* the problem -- it's a program, and it can't be installed in
the standard Windows 7 location for programs.

That's not the only problem, of course. The editor is annoying, and
there were plenty of other problems too. The incompatibility with
Windows 7 was the last straw for me.

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http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On 4/17/2011 1:13 PM, bj wrote:
"James Silverton" wrote in message ...

On 4/17/2011 1:26 PM, bj wrote:
I tried Thunderbird & did not like it. I got used to WLM2009 (under XP),
it does what I want. I'm not so fond of some of the changes that came in
with WLM 2011.

Now I'm having fits over Win7, way more fits over things like "access
denied" all the time, than WLM (either version) ever gave me.
bj

"Bob Hatch" wrote in message
b.com...

On 4/16/2011 10:09 PM, Bob Smith wrote:
Hello, I want to know if microsoft did put out an email program for
windows 7 64 bit?

Yes, Windows Live Mail. It's crap.

I tried outlook 2001, but found it bulky and a lot
of functions I'd never would use. I just want a simple Microsoft email
program like outlook express 6 TIA

Thunderbird.


Yes, I agree entirely with the assessment of WLM, which I used for a
total of a week when I got Windows 7. I switched to Thunderbird for
email and news groups and currently am fairly satisfied.


Since I didn't like TB, I guess it's a matter of using the
personally-to-me-least-unlikeable program. :-)

I have also been using Outlook for things I want to sync with on my
phone --
where I do *not* *NOT* want everything I have in my general
mail/contacts/etc. IOW I use Outlook for my "mobile" stuff. At least, I was
doing that in XP, I haven't yet started doing it in W7 (until I get my
old computer back w/ the backup files I don't want to start mucking with
data that I'd then have to coordinate, yuck!)
bj

If you want to use WLM for e-mail, that's fine and dandy, but please use
something else for newsgroups. At least use something that quotes
previous text properly if you don't feel like manually correcting what
WLM screws up.


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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.9
Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:25:04 PM

"Bob Smith" wrote in message
...
Hello, I want to know if microsoft did put out an email program for
windows 7 64 bit? I tried outlook 2001, but found it bulky and a lot
of functions I'd never would use. I just want a simple Microsoft email
program like outlook express 6 TIA

If you have Professional or mo

"How to use Outlook Express in Windows 7"
http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx

Hi Stan

On the: 18. of april-2011 At: 02:11 Stan Brown wrote:

You using Forte Agent for the newsgroup - why not use it for e-mail
too?
It
works just fine. Then you won't inflict WLM on everyone else - please
stick
to Agent for the newsgroups.

How does Forte handle Html mail and Unicode now a days ?

One hopes that it rejects them, since Usenet is a plain-text medium.

In the old days yes, now a days a lot of people post in html,
and if we are going to survive we might need to allow it.
There is advantages to that format as well.

But my question was aimed at the e-mail part of the program
when I used it many years ago it couldn't handle html.


Best regards
Asger-P

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:56:59 -0400, "Heather"
wrote:

OOPS.....and I think this maybe only the 2nd time ever that OE has
double-posted....lol

"Heather" wrote in message
...
"bj" wrote in message
...
I tried Thunderbird & did not like it. I got used to WLM2009 (under
XP), it does what I want. I'm not so fond of some of the changes that
came in with WLM 2011.

I put Thunderbird on this XP desktop to try it out and I absolutely
DETESTED it. I am a dyed in the wool OE user of some 14 years and for
some strange reason, when I imported my email into T-bird, I had
300,000 kb's showing up in the Inbox according to Windows Explorer, but
not showing up in the program itself.

And I couldn't find any way to hide the read messages.......that really
ticked me off. So I uninstalled it and guess I will go with just web
mail on my laptop. And use this computer for news groups.

Or perhaps one of you kind souls can tell me how to get rid of the WLM
2011 prog and install the older one. I rather like Windows 7 and just
want to get it into *familiar mode*.

Other question........totally different. If I install that SourceForge
prog which changes Startup and Windows Explorer to XP style, is it
removeable in case I have to??? I much prefer the XP style.

Thanks.........Heather (aka Figgs)



Believe me when I say that Agent is by far, the best reader.
Even the earlier versions as far back as1.xx..... were highly praised.
I still have ver. 2.0 on another box....

James Silverton wrote:

Where is the FM for Thunderbird?

news.mozilla.org, it's a private server, you'll need to set up your
newsreader for that server, then look for the group:
mozilla.support.thunderbird


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Stan Brown wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:00:14 -0700, XS11E wrote:

You DID RTFM didn't you and installed in somewhere other than the
default Program Files (X86) folder?

That *is* the problem -- it's a program, and it can't be installed
in the standard Windows 7 location for programs.

Nor can any other program that needs access to Windows protected
files. Not a problem at all.

That's not the only problem, of course. The editor is annoying,
and there were plenty of other problems too. The incompatibility
with Windows 7 was the last straw for me.

It's not incompatible, regardless of your opinion.

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Hi Leon Manfredi

On the: 18. of april-2011 At: 02:37 Leon Manfredi wrote:

Believe me when I say that Agent is by far, the best reader.
Even the earlier versions as far back as1.xx..... were highly praised.
I still have ver. 2.0 on another box....

Well, I dont agree with You, I never liked it much, but in the old
days it was the best for downloading binary newsgroups, so I used it.;-)


Best regards
Asger-P

On 4/17/2011 3:33 PM, Heather wrote:
"Gordon" wrote in message
...
On 17/04/2011 19:21, Heather wrote:


And I couldn't find any way to hide the read messages.......that
really
ticked me off.

Well you didn't LOOK very hard, did you? View-Threads-Unread.....

Oh yes I did.....and nothing worked. There was nada under
View-Thread-Unread that I could see. I may be a novice with T-bird,
Sunshine, but I am not a novice with OE.

Hmm... you mean yours didn't show this:

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1443/20110418-puah-109kb


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Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.9
Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:51:15 PM

"bj" wrote:
"Lewis" wrote in message
...

Look at this post. See how it looks like you said the paragraph starting
with "Yes, I agree"?

Do not post to USENET with WLM2011,
====================================

OK so I (maybe) messed up separating quotes from my reply.
I did try. I just wasn't good enough for you, or you didn't like -- or
didn't understand -- the way I did it.

No. WLM 2011 is BROKEN. It does NOT post properly.


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