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cloud OS?
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin. How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible -- Not a professional opinion unless specified. dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/ |
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On 12/29/17 6:37 PM, dale wrote:
After around 25 years showing my age ... about 35 years -- Not a professional opinion unless specified. dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/ |
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On 12/29/17 6:37 PM, dale wrote:
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self administration I look back to client/server models and want something for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin. How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible left out multimedia input/output ... might require hardware buffering other than memory, might mean the whole idea doesn't work -- Not a professional opinion unless specified. dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/ |
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On 12/29/17 6:51 PM, dale wrote:
On 12/29/17 6:37 PM, dale wrote: After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self administration I look back to client/server models and want something for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin. How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible left out multimedia input/output ... might require hardware buffering other than memory, might mean the whole idea doesn't work network speed/bandwidth ... -- Not a professional opinion unless specified. dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/ |
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"dale" wrote
| After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self | administration I look back to client/server models and want something | for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin. | | How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java | byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? Rather vague. Most of what you do? Which is what? Java? Why? You're describing a services kiosk with limited functionality and limited privacy. Sandboxing makes the former inevitable. Cloud makes the latter inevitable. Is most of what you do shopping? If not then why put it on someone else's computer and why limit the functionality by using wrapper systems like Java? On the other hand, if shopping and services via kiosk is what you want then you need only wait. Win10 will probably get closer with every update. Or you could switch to an iPad and use apps. |
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On 12/29/17 8:35 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"dale" wrote | After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self | administration I look back to client/server models and want something | for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin. | | How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java | byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? Rather vague. Most of what you do? Which is what? Java? Why? You're describing a services kiosk with limited functionality and limited privacy. Sandboxing makes the former inevitable. Cloud makes the latter inevitable. Is most of what you do shopping? If not then why put it on someone else's computer and why limit the functionality by using wrapper systems like Java? On the other hand, if shopping and services via kiosk is what you want then you need only wait. Win10 will probably get closer with every update. Or you could switch to an iPad and use apps. I am basically ready to off-load admin in most situations java byte-code looked like a way to standardize access/delivery -- Not a professional opinion unless specified. dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/ |
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dale wrote:
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self administration I look back to client/server models and want something for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin. How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? Inferno is what you want. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(operating_system) The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible |
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On 12/29/17 9:03 PM, Pabst Blue Ribbon wrote:
dale wrote: After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self administration I look back to client/server models and want something for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin. How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? Inferno is what you want. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(operating_system) know of anyone running a safe and reliable server and a thin-client? The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible -- Not a professional opinion unless specified. dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/ |
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dale wrote:
On 12/29/17 9:03 PM, Pabst Blue Ribbon wrote: dale wrote: After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self administration I look back to client/server models and want something for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin. How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? Inferno is what you want. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(operating_system) know of anyone running a safe and reliable server and a thin-client? Ummm, yeah, whole bunch of people. Did you read the link? This is not a new idea, it was around since times of Plan 9. The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible |
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Pabst Blue Ribbon wrote:
dale wrote: know of anyone running a safe and reliable server and a thin-client? Ummm, yeah, whole bunch of people. Did you read the link? This is not a new idea, it was around since times of Plan 9. It used to be that the "clients" were dumb serial terminals. -- "Linux simply isn't mature enough and rich enough for the average home user ..." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark |
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chrisv wrote:
Pabst Blue Ribbon wrote: dale wrote: know of anyone running a safe and reliable server and a thin-client? Ummm, yeah, whole bunch of people. Did you read the link? This is not a new idea, it was around since times of Plan 9. It used to be that the "clients" were dumb serial terminals. True, if you look at it this way it all can be dated back to the times of mainframes and dumb terminals. If I understand dale correctly he was looking for distributed OS where both server and client are running same operating system. Inferno does exactly that. It's more complicated approach but allows more flexibility and transparency. |
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On 2017-12-29, dale wrote:
How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible Sounds awful. However, I reject "the cloud" and prefer to maintain local control of my resources and data. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Roger Blake wrote:
On 2017-12-29, dale wrote: How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible Sounds awful. However, I reject "the cloud" and prefer to maintain local control of my resources and data. The server don't have to be outside of your home. For example, your desktop computer is server (doing all the heavy calculations), your table is client (receiving commands for you and displaying the graphics). The only problem here is the connection speed, obviously. |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 22:38:24 GMT, Pabst Blue Ribbon
wrote: The server don't have to be outside of your home. For example, your desktop computer is server (doing all the heavy calculations), your table is client (receiving commands for you and displaying the graphics). The only problem here is the connection speed, obviously. Within my WLAN (802.11g, 54 Mbit/s) Google`s "Chrome Remote Desktop" is fast enough for transfering Video (DVD running on a Windows machine) to an android tablet in real time. Same is true for newer versions of Microsoft`s RDP for Windows and Android. |
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Pabst Blue Ribbon wrote:
Roger Blake wrote: On 2017-12-29, dale wrote: How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development? The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware consumable market ... With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible Sounds awful. However, I reject "the cloud" and prefer to maintain local control of my resources and data. Stupid autocorrect. The server don't have to be outside of your home. For example, your desktop computer is server (doing all the heavy calculations), your table *tablet* is client (receiving commands for *from* you and displaying the graphics). The only problem here is the connection speed, obviously. |
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