Why Linux Sucks- 2020 Version

On 06/01/2020 21:34, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 2:24 PM, David wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:13, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 2:00 PM, David wrote:
On 06/01/2020 19:11, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 5:24 AM, David wrote:
On 06/01/2020 08:34, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 1:07 AM, David wrote:
On 05/01/2020 23:19, Snit wrote:
On 1/5/20 4:01 PM, David wrote:
On 05/01/2020 21:15, Snit wrote:
Joel wrote:
David wrote:
On 05/01/2020 20:41, Snit wrote:

I am pretty sure he was kidding.

I was. ;-)

I've enjoyed 'talking' to you, Snit.
You are a breath of fresh air on Usenet!


Snit is a good man, a friend of mine.Â* Those who attack him
either
don't understand him, or are simply full of hatred.


I spent years not countering the false accusations of sock
usage. I
seriously underestimated the number of people who bought into
the “everyone
is Snit� gag.

'Snit' is a somewhat odd-sounding pseudonym.

Would you care to explain the origin? I'm not demanding, just
mildly interested. It really matters not one jot.

Â*From an old gag when I was in high school and then college in
Las Vegas... stood for "Southern Nevada Institute of Technology".

Now just use it out of habit and to keep a consistent name. You
can find "Snit" being used by me going back to 1994 or so
(though with different emails).

Thank you.

Did you know? .... There is a Shree Narayan Institute of
Technology (SNIT), a college in Khargone, India

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snit


I did not know that... and assure you I meant no form of *AN* (a)
association with them. Heck, unless they have been around the
since the 1980s maybe they took MY name. I AM SUING!


Haha! :-DÂ* Do you /still/ live in India?


Hmmm, I live next to an Indian nation... is that close enough?

Of course! :-)

My son and his family lived in Albuquerque, NM, when he was on
secondment to the US Air Force at Kirtland AFB. When my wife and I
visited, he lent me his 31ft Winnebago Motor Home and we had two
weeks touring around the SW of the USA. We loved it! :-) I was
terrified driving such a monster up the main drag in Las Vegas
during the rush hour, though, but I had to reach a camping area at
Circus Circus!


Have a family member who just got an RV trailer and did a tour of all
48 contiguous states. She is in Vegas and did a lot of practice
driving there... yes, it can be a challenge. Not sure she ever was
brave enough to take it up and down the Strip (I assume that is what
you mean by the "main drag".

That is, indeed, what I meant. :-)

Having lived there, I thought you would have been totally familiar
with such a landmark location:-

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...as_Nevada.html


Although we had pre-booked for two nights, we didn't like Vegas and
moved on after just a one night stop. Death Valley was much more to
our liking! ;-)


Been a while since I have been back to Vegas, but I am familiar with the
Strip and Circus Circus. Used to go there as a kid and play the games. I
got quite good at a car race one -- found a way to not exactly cheat but
play focused on things most did not so I won more often than not ... but
they got rid of it. I am guessing I am not the only one who found the
trick.

Sometimes it's advantageous not the be one of the sheeple! ;-)

Did you go on to learn about 'computing' so that you could earn a living
at what you enjoy doing?

D.

On 1/6/20 3:59 PM, David wrote:
....
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...as_Nevada.html


Although we had pre-booked for two nights, we didn't like Vegas and
moved on after just a one night stop. Death Valley was much more to
our liking! ;-)


Been a while since I have been back to Vegas, but I am familiar with
the Strip and Circus Circus. Used to go there as a kid and play the
games. I got quite good at a car race one -- found a way to not
exactly cheat but play focused on things most did not so I won more
often than not ... but they got rid of it. I am guessing I am not the
only one who found the trick.

Sometimes it's advantageous not the be one of the sheeple! ;-)

Did you go on to learn about 'computing' so that you could earn a living
at what you enjoy doing?

Got into computing sorta by accident. Was getting my degree in Vegas
(UNLV) in psychology. I worked my way through college to get that degree
by working in the computer labs. When I got the job I had used Apple IIe
systems but nothing else.

Was then put in the library lab which had Macs, DOS machines, and UNIX
dummy terminals. I did not know how to turn any of them on... but I
caught on quickly. I am one of the few who can say I started working
with those three OSs literally on the same day, and very shortly got
introduced to MS Word on Macs, Word Perfect on DOS, and vi on UNIX
(along with other software on each).

Six years later I was running a cluster of education computer labs and
teaching computers to at-risk high school students through the Upward
Bound program. Left college and was a substitution teacher for a year
(K-12 and special ed) and then got a job as head of tech support and the
sysop for a communication system that worked with the Clark County
School district (about 200 schools at the time) and 100 or so United Way
Agencies. To do the training I developed a way to do it on the system we
were using (FirstClass, at the time owned by SoftArc) and developed what
is now known as an online class (as far as I know the term did not
exist). I am sure there were others doing similar things, but I really
do not know of any other large scale online classes that happened before
the one I designed (and helped to teach). That was back in 1993 or so.

Then I moved to Tucson and did tech support for a bit before being moved
up to being a trainer. I am more of a teacher at heart than a hard core
tech person, though clearly I have a focus on tech.

How about you?


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 1/6/20 3:49 PM, David wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:43, Snit wrote:
On 1/5/20 1:25 PM, David wrote:
...
That worked fairly well -- though the screen size of the VM was
insanely small. You can adjust that in settings but found that to
work so-so at best. I have two screens and perhaps that confused
things?

Anyway, have it running now -- though not as fast as I think it
would under Parallels.

If you want more details I can, perhaps, make a video showing how I
do these things. Want to get back into making YouTube videos anyway.

I appreciate the information. Thank you, Snit.

If you want to practice making a video, I promise that I will watch it!


The video sorta sucks in that I ran into issues and did very little
post processing, but did find that with VirtualBox, as slow as it is,
I can use my mouse-replacement in post production even with it. This
is good -- makes it easier to follow the mouse.

Did edit out some troubleshooting and my waiting... or when I
multitasked and went back to doing Mac stuff. Here it is, for whatever
it is worth:

https://youtu.be/0k6xlEGPJ4I

Enjoy. Or ignore it. Whatever makes you happy.

I'm impressed, John! Very professional. *THANK YOU* :-)

It will take me a while to take it all in, but I have used Mint so that
was familiar. I'll watch again tomorrow.

What I didn't quite understand was why you called the version Mah Tay
instead of M8 (like in bait, for fishing!)

From what I understand that is what the developers call it:

https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/how-to-pronounce-mate/

The video is dead, but they have it spelled out.

Our fondest memory of visiting Arizona was spending some time he-
https://www.chloridechamber.com

Was there many years ago on a trip with a summer camp... but I think we
just stopped by on the way to someplace else. Been a long time.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article , AnonLinuxUser
wrote:

Well, you definitely did the research. Wife did have a step wave UPS,
and the iMac started doing some strange things, (like emptying trash
that doesn't empty the trash and hang). Got her a pure sine wave UPS
and those problems disappeared.

unrelated and a coincidence.


Not a coincidence if you know your electronics well enough.

i do, and it is very much a coincidence. stepped sine waves won't cause
the trash not to empty.

imacs or other macs have no issue with stepped sine waves.


I sure that this case with her iMac is on the edge with a stepping UPS.

it's not.

After all, the thin space to park a
power supply has no room for a large caps and noise suppression
inductors. So I believe that the iMac power supply is cheaply designed
to cut corners on the cost and increase profit margins.

you believe wrong.

So you think.
And your credentials are?....

been in the industry forever.

In article , Paul
wrote:


Apple supplies are contracted out, which is a
general industry trend for OEM computers.

false.

There are no Apple branded electrolytic capacitors, or
Apple factories for PSUs. (It says right on the side
of the PSU in my Mac G4,

that's a 20 year old computer long obsolete, and caps aren't the issue
anyway.

On 06/01/2020 23:19, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 3:49 PM, David wrote:
On 06/01/2020 21:43, Snit wrote:
On 1/5/20 1:25 PM, David wrote:
...
That worked fairly well -- though the screen size of the VM was
insanely small. You can adjust that in settings but found that to
work so-so at best. I have two screens and perhaps that confused
things?

Anyway, have it running now -- though not as fast as I think it
would under Parallels.

If you want more details I can, perhaps, make a video showing how I
do these things. Want to get back into making YouTube videos anyway.

I appreciate the information. Thank you, Snit.

If you want to practice making a video, I promise that I will watch it!


The video sorta sucks in that I ran into issues and did very little
post processing, but did find that with VirtualBox, as slow as it is,
I can use my mouse-replacement in post production even with it. This
is good -- makes it easier to follow the mouse.

Did edit out some troubleshooting and my waiting... or when I
multitasked and went back to doing Mac stuff. Here it is, for
whatever it is worth:

https://youtu.be/0k6xlEGPJ4I

Enjoy. Or ignore it. Whatever makes you happy.

I'm impressed, John! Very professional. *THANK YOU* :-)

It will take me a while to take it all in, but I have used Mint so
that was familiar. I'll watch again tomorrow.

What I didn't quite understand was why you called the version Mah Tay
instead of M8 (like in bait, for fishing!)

From what I understand that is what the developers call it:

https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/how-to-pronounce-mate/

The video is dead, but they have it spelled out.

I see that! Thanks.

Our fondest memory of visiting Arizona was spending some time he-
https://www.chloridechamber.com

Was there many years ago on a trip with a summer camp... but I think we
just stopped by on the way to someplace else. Been a long time.

We turned OFF the beaten track to get there. I somehow doubt you'd just
have happened across it! ;-)

We got to see the Murals by hitching a lift from a couple in a Jeep - we
couldn't take the RV on the unpaved, rocky, track!

https://www.chloridechamber.com/murals

--
David

On 06/01/2020 23:15, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 3:59 PM, David wrote:
...
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...as_Nevada.html


Although we had pre-booked for two nights, we didn't like Vegas and
moved on after just a one night stop. Death Valley was much more to
our liking! ;-)


Been a while since I have been back to Vegas, but I am familiar with
the Strip and Circus Circus. Used to go there as a kid and play the
games. I got quite good at a car race one -- found a way to not
exactly cheat but play focused on things most did not so I won more
often than not ... but they got rid of it. I am guessing I am not the
only one who found the trick.

Sometimes it's advantageous not the be one of the sheeple! ;-)

Did you go on to learn about 'computing' so that you could earn a
living at what you enjoy doing?

Got into computing sorta by accident. Was getting my degree in Vegas
(UNLV) in psychology. I worked my way through college to get that degree
by working in the computer labs. When I got the job I had used Apple IIe
systems but nothing else.

Was then put in the library lab which had Macs, DOS machines, and UNIX
dummy terminals. I did not know how to turn any of them on... but I
caught on quickly. I am one of the few who can say I started working
with those three OSs literally on the same day, and very shortly got
introduced to MS Word on Macs, Word Perfect on DOS, and vi on UNIX
(along with other software on each).

Six years later I was running a cluster of education computer labs and
teaching computers to at-risk high school students through the Upward
Bound program. Left college and was a substitution teacher for a year
(K-12 and special ed) and then got a job as head of tech support and the
sysop for a communication system that worked with the Clark County
School district (about 200 schools at the time) and 100 or so United Way
Agencies. To do the training I developed a way to do it on the system we
were using (FirstClass, at the time owned by SoftArc) and developed what
is now known as an online class (as far as I know the term did not
exist). I am sure there were others doing similar things, but I really
do not know of any other large scale online classes that happened before
the one I designed (and helped to teach). That was back in 1993 or so.

Then I moved to Tucson and did tech support for a bit before being moved
up to being a trainer. I am more of a teacher at heart than a hard core
tech person, though clearly I have a focus on tech.

How about you?

You can find out a bit about me he-
https://www.linkedin.com/in/boaterdave/

If you have any questions, just ask!

I'm off to my bed now, though. It's after midnight!

'nite!

--
David

On 1/6/20 5:12 PM, David wrote:
....
Did edit out some troubleshooting and my waiting... or when I
multitasked and went back to doing Mac stuff. Here it is, for
whatever it is worth:

https://youtu.be/0k6xlEGPJ4I

Enjoy. Or ignore it. Whatever makes you happy.

I'm impressed, John! Very professional. *THANK YOU* :-)

It will take me a while to take it all in, but I have used Mint so
that was familiar. I'll watch again tomorrow.

What I didn't quite understand was why you called the version Mah Tay
instead of M8 (like in bait, for fishing!)

Â*From what I understand that is what the developers call it:

https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/how-to-pronounce-mate/

The video is dead, but they have it spelled out.

I see that! Thanks.

Our fondest memory of visiting Arizona was spending some time he-
https://www.chloridechamber.com

Was there many years ago on a trip with a summer camp... but I think
we just stopped by on the way to someplace else. Been a long time.

We turned OFF the beaten track to get there. I somehow doubt you'd just
have happened across it! ;-)

We got to see the Murals by hitching a lift from a couple in a Jeep - we
couldn't take the RV on the unpaved, rocky, track!

https://www.chloridechamber.com/murals


I *think* it was a side trip to Willow Beach, from Prescott, AZ. But
this is back in the '80s before I was even driving... so I cannot be
certain.

The images look familiar, but could just be from seeing pics before. The
town itself also looks sorta familiar -- but with a quick image you
could how a dozen other small AZ towns and not really tell them apart if
you did not know them well.



--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 1/6/20 5:16 PM, David wrote:
On 06/01/2020 23:15, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 3:59 PM, David wrote:
...
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...as_Nevada.html


Although we had pre-booked for two nights, we didn't like Vegas and
moved on after just a one night stop. Death Valley was much more to
our liking! ;-)


Been a while since I have been back to Vegas, but I am familiar with
the Strip and Circus Circus. Used to go there as a kid and play the
games. I got quite good at a car race one -- found a way to not
exactly cheat but play focused on things most did not so I won more
often than not ... but they got rid of it. I am guessing I am not
the only one who found the trick.

Sometimes it's advantageous not the be one of the sheeple! ;-)

Did you go on to learn about 'computing' so that you could earn a
living at what you enjoy doing?

Got into computing sorta by accident. Was getting my degree in Vegas
(UNLV) in psychology. I worked my way through college to get that
degree by working in the computer labs. When I got the job I had used
Apple IIe systems but nothing else.

Was then put in the library lab which had Macs, DOS machines, and UNIX
dummy terminals. I did not know how to turn any of them on... but I
caught on quickly. I am one of the few who can say I started working
with those three OSs literally on the same day, and very shortly got
introduced to MS Word on Macs, Word Perfect on DOS, and vi on UNIX
(along with other software on each).

Six years later I was running a cluster of education computer labs and
teaching computers to at-risk high school students through the Upward
Bound program. Left college and was a substitution teacher for a year
(K-12 and special ed) and then got a job as head of tech support and
the sysop for a communication system that worked with the Clark County
School district (about 200 schools at the time) and 100 or so United
Way Agencies. To do the training I developed a way to do it on the
system we were using (FirstClass, at the time owned by SoftArc) and
developed what is now known as an online class (as far as I know the
term did not exist). I am sure there were others doing similar things,
but I really do not know of any other large scale online classes that
happened before the one I designed (and helped to teach). That was
back in 1993 or so.

Then I moved to Tucson and did tech support for a bit before being
moved up to being a trainer. I am more of a teacher at heart than a
hard core tech person, though clearly I have a focus on tech.

How about you?

You can find out a bit about me he-
https://www.linkedin.com/in/boaterdave/

If you have any questions, just ask!

I'm off to my bed now, though. It's after midnight!

'nite!

See you have an interest in Raspberry Pi systems (Pies?). I do not have
one but know someone who uses a couple for his own home weather
station... do anything interesting with them?


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

nospam wrote:
In article , Paul
wrote:

Apple supplies are contracted out, which is a
general industry trend for OEM computers.

false.

There are no Apple branded electrolytic capacitors, or
Apple factories for PSUs. (It says right on the side
of the PSU in my Mac G4,

that's a 20 year old computer long obsolete, and caps aren't the issue
anyway.

So you admit then, that it happened and it's true.

"20 year old computer" equals "Apple made it and was proud of it at the time".

https://www.flickr.com/photos/babz4x...n/photostream/

Because flickr is so much fun to navigate, here is the picture
as seen in my browser.

https://i.postimg.cc/QChfKHcg/dongguan.jpg

Dongguan Samsung Electro-mechanics === This is the OEM making the subassembly
Made in China
S/N:
Apple P/N: 614-0224 === This is the Apple BOM item

So, yes, yes, Petunia, Apple is not fully vertically integrated.

When it makes sense to buy a subassembly from a third party, they do.

Just as when I worked in my fully vertically integrated company,
if I needed a "ua741", I didn't go down to the fab and hand-hew
the ****ing thing out of raw silicon. I ran down to Radio Shack
and got one for a buck. Lots of stuff came as subassemblies.
When I was in our "computer making" division, the power
supplies were perfectly awful OEM units. "I spit on them"
was the brand name.

What Apple uses for OEM, are better quality than anything
we ever put in a box.

HTH,
Paul

hello mr left hand, what's up?

well hello mr right hand. I ran a computer lab... what about you mr left
hand?

Oh thanks for asking mr right hand. la dee dah...

--
Я го�ть в отеле

mGhost wrote:

hello mr left hand, what's up?

well hello mr right hand. I ran a computer lab... what about you mr left
hand?

Oh thanks for asking mr right hand. la dee dah...


Hi Marek.

--
Joel Crump

In article , Paul
wrote:

Apple supplies are contracted out, which is a
general industry trend for OEM computers.

false.

There are no Apple branded electrolytic capacitors, or
Apple factories for PSUs. (It says right on the side
of the PSU in my Mac G4,

that's a 20 year old computer long obsolete, and caps aren't the issue
anyway.

So you admit then, that it happened and it's true.

nope. i'm saying that computer is irrelevant and caps aren't a factor
with pfc.


Dongguan Samsung Electro-mechanics === This is the OEM making the
subassembly
Made in China
S/N:
Apple P/N: 614-0224 === This is the Apple BOM item

So, yes, yes, Petunia, Apple is not fully vertically integrated.

When it makes sense to buy a subassembly from a third party, they do.

that means nothing.

apple designs their products and subcontracts manufacturing to many
different companies.

On 07/01/2020 00:36, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 5:12 PM, David wrote:
...
Did edit out some troubleshooting and my waiting... or when I
multitasked and went back to doing Mac stuff. Here it is, for
whatever it is worth:

https://youtu.be/0k6xlEGPJ4I

Enjoy. Or ignore it. Whatever makes you happy.

I'm impressed, John! Very professional. *THANK YOU* :-)

It will take me a while to take it all in, but I have used Mint so
that was familiar. I'll watch again tomorrow.

What I didn't quite understand was why you called the version Mah
Tay instead of M8 (like in bait, for fishing!)

Â*From what I understand that is what the developers call it:

https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/how-to-pronounce-mate/

The video is dead, but they have it spelled out.

I see that! Thanks.

Our fondest memory of visiting Arizona was spending some time he-
https://www.chloridechamber.com

Was there many years ago on a trip with a summer camp... but I think
we just stopped by on the way to someplace else. Been a long time.

We turned OFF the beaten track to get there. I somehow doubt you'd
just have happened across it! ;-)

We got to see the Murals by hitching a lift from a couple in a Jeep -
we couldn't take the RV on the unpaved, rocky, track!

https://www.chloridechamber.com/murals


I *think* it was a side trip to Willow Beach, from Prescott, AZ. But
this is back in the '80s before I was even driving... so I cannot be
certain.

Looks possible! We turned off that same route.


https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Pres...35.4139585!3e0

OR http://bit.ly/39OoF3w

The images look familiar, but could just be from seeing pics before. The
town itself also looks sorta familiar -- but with a quick image you
could how a dozen other small AZ towns and not really tell them apart if
you did not know them well.



I understand! Here's a couple of photographs I took at the time:-

https://imgur.com/gallery/ta4M5iL

Good memories! :-)

--
David

On 07/01/2020 00:41, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 5:16 PM, David wrote:
On 06/01/2020 23:15, Snit wrote:
On 1/6/20 3:59 PM, David wrote:
...
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_...as_Nevada.html


Although we had pre-booked for two nights, we didn't like Vegas
and moved on after just a one night stop. Death Valley was much
more to our liking! ;-)


Been a while since I have been back to Vegas, but I am familiar
with the Strip and Circus Circus. Used to go there as a kid and
play the games. I got quite good at a car race one -- found a way
to not exactly cheat but play focused on things most did not so I
won more often than not ... but they got rid of it. I am guessing I
am not the only one who found the trick.

Sometimes it's advantageous not the be one of the sheeple! ;-)

Did you go on to learn about 'computing' so that you could earn a
living at what you enjoy doing?

Got into computing sorta by accident. Was getting my degree in Vegas
(UNLV) in psychology. I worked my way through college to get that
degree by working in the computer labs. When I got the job I had used
Apple IIe systems but nothing else.

Was then put in the library lab which had Macs, DOS machines, and
UNIX dummy terminals. I did not know how to turn any of them on...
but I caught on quickly. I am one of the few who can say I started
working with those three OSs literally on the same day, and very
shortly got introduced to MS Word on Macs, Word Perfect on DOS, and
vi on UNIX (along with other software on each).

Six years later I was running a cluster of education computer labs
and teaching computers to at-risk high school students through the
Upward Bound program. Left college and was a substitution teacher for
a year (K-12 and special ed) and then got a job as head of tech
support and the sysop for a communication system that worked with the
Clark County School district (about 200 schools at the time) and 100
or so United Way Agencies. To do the training I developed a way to do
it on the system we were using (FirstClass, at the time owned by
SoftArc) and developed what is now known as an online class (as far
as I know the term did not exist). I am sure there were others doing
similar things, but I really do not know of any other large scale
online classes that happened before the one I designed (and helped to
teach). That was back in 1993 or so.

Then I moved to Tucson and did tech support for a bit before being
moved up to being a trainer. I am more of a teacher at heart than a
hard core tech person, though clearly I have a focus on tech.

How about you?

You can find out a bit about me he-
https://www.linkedin.com/in/boaterdave/

If you have any questions, just ask!

I'm off to my bed now, though. It's after midnight!

'nite!

See you have an interest in Raspberry Pi systems (Pies?). I do not have
one but know someone who uses a couple for his own home weather
station... do anything interesting with them?

My son, who's probably about your age, gave me a Pi for Christmas a few
years ago. Sadly, it's still brand new in its box, although I did open
up the box to look at it! I wish I'd had such a 'toy' when I was forever
experimenting as a lad! I'm sure I'll think of something positive to do
with it one day. :-)

I apologise for calling you John. In real life, if I meet someone whose
name I do not know (or have maybe forgotten!) I at some stage call them
John. Like the 80/20 rule, more often than not it is correct! If it's
not, the person will invariably correct me and proffer their ACTUAL name
without me asking for it! Yes, cheeky I know! ;-)

--
David