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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
Live wrote:
http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ OMG, I LOL. The Microsoft press releases go like this. It's the same every time. Month 0: "We will change the orbit of the sun and the moon. We will do big things. Expected price $159.95." Month 6: "First alpha is back. Developers have managed to move the mouse cursor around the screen. Significant progress could happen at any time." Month 12: "The preview is ready. It turned out we couldn't quite manage to change the orbit of the sun or the moon. Instead, we made the colors of Outlook more bland, knowing how much that ****es off customers. Expected upgrade price of the new OS is $15.95. Expect your favorite deck chairs to be moved around again." ******* I notice they mention "Cloud integration". I presume the next Windows OS will be called "Windows NSA" or "Windows Bluffdale", as Bluffdale is where the next NSA data warehousing project it located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center As far as I'm concerned, "the Cloud is Dead" as a concept. Any OS that only has a Microsoft Account, and no local account, is dead as far as I'm concerned. I hope they keep that in mind. Paul |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
On 12/1/2013 8:47 PM, Paul wrote:
Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ OMG, I LOL. The Microsoft press releases go like this. It's the same every time. Month 0: "We will change the orbit of the sun and the moon. We will do big things. Expected price $159.95." Month 6: "First alpha is back. Developers have managed to move the mouse cursor around the screen. Significant progress could happen at any time." Month 12: "The preview is ready. It turned out we couldn't quite manage to change the orbit of the sun or the moon. Instead, we made the colors of Outlook more bland, knowing how much that ****es off customers. Expected upgrade price of the new OS is $15.95. Expect your favorite deck chairs to be moved around again." ******* I notice they mention "Cloud integration". I presume the next Windows OS will be called "Windows NSA" or "Windows Bluffdale", as Bluffdale is where the next NSA data warehousing project it located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center As far as I'm concerned, "the Cloud is Dead" as a concept. Any OS that only has a Microsoft Account, and no local account, is dead as far as I'm concerned. I hope they keep that in mind. Paul Don't hold your breath. -- Alias |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
On 12/01/2013 01:47 PM, Paul wrote:
Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ OMG, I LOL. The Microsoft press releases go like this. It's the same every time. Month 0: "We will change the orbit of the sun and the moon. We will do big things. Expected price $159.95." Month 6: "First alpha is back. Developers have managed to move the mouse cursor around the screen. Significant progress could happen at any time." Month 12: "The preview is ready. It turned out we couldn't quite manage to change the orbit of the sun or the moon. Instead, we made the colors of Outlook more bland, knowing how much that ****es off customers. Expected upgrade price of the new OS is $15.95. Expect your favorite deck chairs to be moved around again." ******* I notice they mention "Cloud integration". I presume the next Windows OS will be called "Windows NSA" or "Windows Bluffdale", as Bluffdale is where the next NSA data warehousing project it located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center As far as I'm concerned, "the Cloud is Dead" as a concept. Any OS that only has a Microsoft Account, and no local account, is dead as far as I'm concerned. I hope they keep that in mind. Paul I have had it with Microsoft, and their cloud computing and touch screens. Also the constant monitoring of what a person does on their own computer. I have moved on to Linux Mint 16, and won't be using Windows again. It does everything I need it to do, and it's fun to use. |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
On 12/1/2013 3:14 PM, Alias wrote:
On 12/1/2013 8:47 PM, Paul wrote: Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ OMG, I LOL. The Microsoft press releases go like this. It's the same every time. Month 0: "We will change the orbit of the sun and the moon. We will do big things. Expected price $159.95." Month 6: "First alpha is back. Developers have managed to move the mouse cursor around the screen. Significant progress could happen at any time." Month 12: "The preview is ready. It turned out we couldn't quite manage to change the orbit of the sun or the moon. Instead, we made the colors of Outlook more bland, knowing how much that ****es off customers. Expected upgrade price of the new OS is $15.95. Expect your favorite deck chairs to be moved around again." ******* I notice they mention "Cloud integration". I presume the next Windows OS will be called "Windows NSA" or "Windows Bluffdale", as Bluffdale is where the next NSA data warehousing project it located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center As far as I'm concerned, "the Cloud is Dead" as a concept. Any OS that only has a Microsoft Account, and no local account, is dead as far as I'm concerned. I hope they keep that in mind. Paul Don't hold your breath. I will never place data in the "Cloud". It is my data to do with as I wish, not what some computer company wants to do to make more money. I have a perfect security system on my computer. I turn it off when I am not using it. If I wish to share a file with someone I either email it of cut it to a CD and send it to them. |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
On 12/1/2013 11:47 AM, Paul wrote:
Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ OMG, I LOL. The Microsoft press releases go like this. It's the same every time. Month 0: "We will change the orbit of the sun and the moon. We will do big things. Expected price $159.95." Month 6: "First alpha is back. Developers have managed to move the mouse cursor around the screen. Significant progress could happen at any time." Month 12: "The preview is ready. It turned out we couldn't quite manage to change the orbit of the sun or the moon. Instead, we made the colors of Outlook more bland, knowing how much that ****es off customers. Expected upgrade price of the new OS is $15.95. Expect your favorite deck chairs to be moved around again." ******* I notice they mention "Cloud integration". I presume the next Windows OS will be called "Windows NSA" or "Windows Bluffdale", as Bluffdale is where the next NSA data warehousing project it located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center As far as I'm concerned, "the Cloud is Dead" as a concept. Any OS that only has a Microsoft Account, and no local account, is dead as far as I'm concerned. I hope they keep that in mind. Paul Too late. The "cloud" models already exist for both businesses and the public and they are being assembled right now. It is a return to the "dark ages" with central servers (the "cloud" farm) and terminals or thin clients for users. Nor is it coincidental that Microsoft and Intel have ended OS, software and hardware updates beyond Windows XP for most "older" systems, forcing the acquisition of new ones based on the cloud concept. Even the home user is being initiated into this idea, with the "automated" family home starting with alarm and house management systems. GR |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
On 01/12/2013 14:29, Live wrote:
http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ So January will be another busy month to "upgrade"!!!!!!!!!! i have still not applied all the Windows 8.1 and Office 2010 patches; These have to wait until 8.2 comes out. Anyone seen the offical press release yet? |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 21:05:51 +0000, Good Guy
wrote: On 01/12/2013 14:29, Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ So January will be another busy month to "upgrade"!!!!!!!!!! Maybe. Only maybe. It's just a rumor, and like all rumors, only little attention should be paid to it. How likely is 8.2 in January? Just a guess on my part, but I strongly doubt that it will happen that soon. And when the next version comes out, will it be called 8.2? I don't know that either. i have still not applied all the Windows 8.1 and Office 2010 patches; These have to wait until 8.2 comes out. Anyone seen the offical press release yet? There has been none. Again, it's nothing but a rumor. |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 14:47:39 -0500, Paul wrote:
Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ OMG, I LOL. The Microsoft press releases go like this. It's the same every time. Month 0: "We will change the orbit of the sun and the moon. We will do big things. Expected price $159.95." Month 6: "First alpha is back. Developers have managed to move the mouse cursor around the screen. Significant progress could happen at any time." Month 12: "The preview is ready. It turned out we couldn't quite manage to change the orbit of the sun or the moon. Instead, we made the colors of Outlook more bland, knowing how much that ****es off customers. Expected upgrade price of the new OS is $15.95. Expect your favorite deck chairs to be moved around again." ******* I notice they mention "Cloud integration". I presume the next Windows OS will be called "Windows NSA" or "Windows Bluffdale", as Bluffdale is where the next NSA data warehousing project it located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center As far as I'm concerned, "the Cloud is Dead" as a concept. Any OS that only has a Microsoft Account, and no local account, is dead as far as I'm concerned. I hope they keep that in mind. Paul Do I detect a note of sarcasm? :-) I'm doing OK with my quite limited use of W8, so I guess the 8.2 changes won't make much difference to me. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
Paul wrote:
Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ OMG, I LOL. The Microsoft press releases go like this. It's the same every time. Month 0: "We will change the orbit of the sun and the moon. We will do big things. Expected price $159.95." Month 6: "First alpha is back. Developers have managed to move the mouse cursor around the screen. Significant progress could happen at any time." Month 12: "The preview is ready. It turned out we couldn't quite manage to change the orbit of the sun or the moon. Instead, we made the colors of Outlook more bland, knowing how much that ****es off customers. Expected upgrade price of the new OS is $15.95. Expect your favorite deck chairs to be moved around again." ******* I notice they mention "Cloud integration". I presume the next Windows OS will be called "Windows NSA" or "Windows Bluffdale", as Bluffdale is where the next NSA data warehousing project it located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center As far as I'm concerned, "the Cloud is Dead" as a concept. Any OS that only has a Microsoft Account, and no local account, is dead as far as I'm concerned. I hope they keep that in mind. Paul I wouldn't bank on that. The Enterprise environment is too dependent on Windows and non-domain based ecosystems should continue to provide local account management. That market and the smart device market will continue to drive Windows direction. With local intranet based cloud as an Enterprise option supplemented by external and smart device capacity constraints the external cloud is even more inevitable. The consumer market, on the other hand, is headed for the MSFT only account and as noted previously there is a strong possibility that the MSFT account will become necessary for updates/upgrades and patches (Windows Update). Further more, the future of Windows could very well move closer to the Office 365 model ($$ per year to maintain current and obtain future o/s). Plan to adapt. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
Good Guy wrote:
On 01/12/2013 14:29, Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ So January will be another busy month to "upgrade"!!!!!!!!!! i have still not applied all the Windows 8.1 and Office 2010 patches; These have to wait until 8.2 comes out. Anyone seen the official press release yet? No official release exists. The article title provide that confirmation by implication - 'Rumors' With the recent change to 8.1 being only available in full version software with the only upgrade path to 8.1 necessitating presence of 8.0..it would seem highly likely that 8.1 will follow the similar path (i.e. 8.1 necessary to upgrade to 8.2 via the Store or purchase full version media to perform a clean 8.2 install or upgrade using full version media from within 8.1 to 8.2). Office 2010 is legacy software...imo, there is no compelling reason to not be running Office 2010 SP2 with all updates installed. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
On 01/12/2013 20:48, Ghostrider 00 wrote:
Too late. The "cloud" models already exist for both businesses and the public and they are being assembled right now. It is a return to the "dark ages" with central servers (the "cloud" farm) and terminals or thin clients for users. Nor is it coincidental that Microsoft and Intel have ended OS, software and hardware updates beyond Windows XP for most "older" systems, forcing the acquisition of new ones based on the cloud concept. Even the home user is being initiated into this idea, with the "automated" family home starting with alarm and house management systems. GR I thought Google has already got this; It is called Google Chrome and the machine is almost dummy but you use all the applications using the Chrome Browser that is somehow bundled with the machine. All you need is Internet Access. Professor Michio Kaku has already predicted what the world will look like in 2030!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=219YybX66MY -- Good Guy Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk Website: http://html-css.co.uk Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
The Enterprise environment is too dependent on Windows[...]
I totally agree which I believe is one of the assumptions that MS used for all kinds of planning. But as far as I know, it is not because Windows itself but because of the invested back-end infrastructures and mission critical systems that are relying on Windows-based platforms and are using client Windows for interactions. It's not going to change anytime soon, but it's "enterprises." With Web applications and cloud and more and more 3rd parties providers, non-enterprises including SMB (small and medium business) and consumers are not necessarily constrained by MS platforms. For example, one of the must-use database for enterprises is Oracle database, and they now have Linux and online subscription model. And I believe that it is targeted at "SMB" for non-Windows based platforms. Similar trends have been going for a while and with more and more SMB are using 3rd parities solutions not only for Internet but also for Intranet, the constraint is less and less relevant for non-enterprises. Someday, sooner or later, client Windows may not be needed for interacting with their back-end systems, and compatible Office Suits may replace MS Office suits not to mention that I also noticed a different document format (PDF) is merging to replace the traditional document format (doc, docx). So the optimistic scenario is that using Enterprises to force adaption. But the other possibility is that it will be like IBM who is being cornered at the "enterprise" segment and is pretty much irrelevant to consumer and SMB. So, Plan to adapt. Not necessarily. Plan to move away. On 12/2/2013 09:48, ...winston wrote: Paul wrote: Live wrote: http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/micros...n-windows-8-2/ OMG, I LOL. The Microsoft press releases go like this. It's the same every time. Month 0: "We will change the orbit of the sun and the moon. We will do big things. Expected price $159.95." Month 6: "First alpha is back. Developers have managed to move the mouse cursor around the screen. Significant progress could happen at any time." Month 12: "The preview is ready. It turned out we couldn't quite manage to change the orbit of the sun or the moon. Instead, we made the colors of Outlook more bland, knowing how much that ****es off customers. Expected upgrade price of the new OS is $15.95. Expect your favorite deck chairs to be moved around again." ******* I notice they mention "Cloud integration". I presume the next Windows OS will be called "Windows NSA" or "Windows Bluffdale", as Bluffdale is where the next NSA data warehousing project it located. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center As far as I'm concerned, "the Cloud is Dead" as a concept. Any OS that only has a Microsoft Account, and no local account, is dead as far as I'm concerned. I hope they keep that in mind. Paul I wouldn't bank on that. The Enterprise environment is too dependent on Windows and non-domain based ecosystems should continue to provide local account management. That market and the smart device market will continue to drive Windows direction. With local intranet based cloud as an Enterprise option supplemented by external and smart device capacity constraints the external cloud is even more inevitable. The consumer market, on the other hand, is headed for the MSFT only account and as noted previously there is a strong possibility that the MSFT account will become necessary for updates/upgrades and patches (Windows Update). Further more, the future of Windows could very well move closer to the Office 365 model ($$ per year to maintain current and obtain future o/s). Plan to adapt. |
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xfile wrote:
The Enterprise environment is too dependent on Windows[...] I totally agree which I believe is one of the assumptions that MS used for all kinds of planning. But as far as I know, it is not because Windows itself but because of the invested back-end infrastructures and mission critical systems that are relying on Windows-based platforms and are using client Windows for interactions. It's not going to change anytime soon, but it's "enterprises." With Web applications and cloud and more and more 3rd parties providers, non-enterprises including SMB (small and medium business) and consumers are not necessarily constrained by MS platforms. For example, one of the must-use database for enterprises is Oracle database, and they now have Linux and online subscription model. And I believe that it is targeted at "SMB" for non-Windows based platforms. Similar trends have been going for a while and with more and more SMB are using 3rd parities solutions not only for Internet but also for Intranet, the constraint is less and less relevant for non-enterprises. Someday, sooner or later, client Windows may not be needed for interacting with their back-end systems, and compatible Office Suits may replace MS Office suits not to mention that I also noticed a different document format (PDF) is merging to replace the traditional document format (doc, docx). So the optimistic scenario is that using Enterprises to force adaption. But the other possibility is that it will be like IBM who is being cornered at the "enterprise" segment and is pretty much irrelevant to consumer and SMB. So, Plan to adapt. Not necessarily. Plan to move away. MSFT, agreed, has pretty much forced the SMB's hand with deprecation of previous available application software and services at the expense of catering to the enterprise ecosystem. The old-guard approach is changing..but, still too many good-old-boys in the enterprise driven financial approval process to risk change (and still seen as change for the sake of change) in the big-bucks corporate world. The PDF format afiacs is a logical one due to the ability to commonize file type and protect the distribution of proprietary information in documents. Where will it end up ? Maybe your plan will prove true....but imo, your plan to 'move away' with any significant impact on market based adoption is a decade away. Adaptation is necessary well in advance of that possible objective. -- ...w |
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Microsoft Rumors Say Big Changes Coming in Windows 8.2
The old-guard approach is changing..but, still too many good-old-boys in
the enterprise driven financial approval process to risk change (and still seen as change for the sake of change) in the big-bucks corporate world. Fully agreed. No rational manager will change perfectly working systems for the sake of change including OS upgrade not to mention for business applications and backbone systems. Look at the Windows XP's share which,still, is stubbornly taking around 30%. And that is why I mentioned "It's not going to change anytime soon, but it's "enterprises."" However, the point is that the synergy created by the server products, client OS, development tools, Office, and consumer service is falling apart and each category is being attacked heavily by competitors. When new investments on backbone systems are not bound by Windows platforms, the linkage between the back- and front-end is broken which means that it doesn't have to use client Windows as the front-end interface. So, the old mentality and approach of using business requirements to creating/forcing consumer needs will not work - for long. The PDF format afiacs is a logical one due to the ability to commonize file type and protect the distribution of proprietary information in documents. One of the best things coming out of the whole Web-based thing is that everything is moving, though gradually, to standard protocols and formats, and PDF is just one of them. And platform will become/is becoming a less important factor. Where will it end up ? Maybe your plan will prove true....but imo, your plan to 'move away' with any significant impact on market based adoption is a decade away. A decade would be an optimistic estimate And it's not my plan, sort of speaking. As they say, Rome wasn't built nor burnt in a day. Adaptation is necessary well in advance of that possible objective. It is happening just in case you didn't notice. Consumer and business are delaying their purchase/upgrade on Windows PCs. New investments on backbone systems are gradually moving away from Windows platforms especially for SMB's and some enterprises. Windows-based devices are taking a relatively small percentage of the market share. Again, the old mentality and approach of using business requirements to creating/forcing consumer needs will not work - for long. They need to create something decent to *re-attract* the market, and the current approach (e.g. Windows 8.x) isn't going to work. |
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