What is the most common Screen Size and Color Depth (forpanopticlick)

In article , Sage wrote:

My only point was that the default fonts, which come with the
operating system, are just fine for most of us.

nobody said otherwise.

you are saying you want to reduce that to two fonts which is stupid.

Since most Windows and Mac users add MS Office, and since many
Linux users add whatever the most common Office-Equivalent is,
all I'm trying to do, now, is figure out how to set up the
machine to just have the most common typical fonts.

it already does.

How do we do that?
What ARE the most common typical fonts on Windows, Mac, and Linux?
How do we figure that set out?

whatever comes with a stock install is that set.

In article , Lewis
wrote:

Don't install any fonts and you will have all the fonts that every user
of your version of OS X has. Simple.

I don't think I've ever expressly "installed" a font.
But, I don't know if programs install them on their own.

MS Office does, in ~/Library/Fonts, IIRC. If that folder doesn't exist,
then you don't have any third party fonts.

completely wrong.

I suppose it is possible that some badly written software would try to
install in /Library/Fonts, but I see no evidence of it on my computers.

microsoft puts their fonts in the main library font folder, which is
the correct place because the fonts are then available to all users.

In article , Lewis
wrote:

Remember, we all used to have typewriters in the olden days.
And we communicated with each other just fine.

No, because typewriters were extremely limited in what you were allowed
to use them for. For example, in all the years my wife and I dated I
never once sent her a typed letter. Later, after we were married, we got
good printers and nice fonts, and I had no trouble at all writing her a
letter on the computer and printing it on a laser or good inkjet printer
precisely because it didn't look typed. All our wedding thank-you cards
were printed off the computer (by a StyleWriter printer) and people
thought we'd had the cards professionally made.

today people email or text, which is why typewriters have long been
relegated to antiques on display. nobody actually uses one other than a
novelty.

In article , Sage wrote:

The point is that most of us can do just fine with the default fonts,
and, some of us, (me included) hadn't realized that /adding/ fonts,
makes us more easily fingerprinted.

it does't do any such thing.

adding fonts only means you have more fonts installed.

the only way to fingerprint you is if you have a *unique* set of fonts
which nobody else has, something which is highly unlikely given your
ignorance of typography and design.

In article , Sage wrote:

Someone without Microsoft Office won't have the extra
fonts that Office installs

Almost every Windows and Mac laptop in the USA has Microsoft
Office on it, so, that's the set of fonts we would want to
replicate.

It must be easy. For you to say it's impossible can't be right.

install microsoft office.

done.

In article , Sage wrote:


Certainly not almost every Mac.

You want to be in the middle of the bell curve, and that middle
has Microsoft Office, no doubt about it.

For you to say that most USA Mac laptops do NOT have Microsoft Office
on them, would belie belief.

many do, as microsoft office for mac is one of the top selling titles.

the point is that it's not almost every mac, especially since a mac out
of the box can read and write microsoft office documents without any
additional software.

in other words, there isn't a need for ms office on a mac unless
someone is actively creating and modifying office documents.
occasionally reading them (which is what most people need office for)
is already covered.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:16:08 +0000 (UTC), Sage wrote:

Gene E. Bloch wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:50:43 -0800:

It happens that I'm no connoisseur of fonts, but I don't see that as a
reason to try to deny other people their esthetic pleasures...

All I'm saying is that I can easily live within whatever fonts
are supplied by the operating system, and, furthermore, I would
NOT want any specific fonts because of the stated privacy reasons.

So, if someone wants to install custom fonts, and, hence, allow
their machine to be fingerprinted no matter where they used that
machine in the entire world, that's fine.

But, I, for one, prefer to be just like the rest.

Question is...... how do I get my fonts to look like everyone elses?

It seems unlikely that you can.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Sage wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
What you see depends on what you have set your own newsreader to use

And I haven't set it to anything as I am fine with whatever fonts my own
newsreader uses.

Then you are using whatever its defaults are. Look in the preferences for
the font(s) in use. Maybe you'll find something you like better.

--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high

nospam wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:41:08 -0500:

the only way to fingerprint you is if you have a *unique* set of fonts
which nobody else has, something which is highly unlikely given your
ignorance of typography and design.

My panopticlick result is unique.
The combination of factors makes it so.
Part of that, is the screen size (as the color depth is 24, like most others).
Another part are the fonts installed.

The only goal is to look like everyone else.
That takes a better undertanding of how to modify the reported screen size
than I have, and it takes a better understanding of how to look like I only
have the default fonts.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who needs this help.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:51:49 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:06:44 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:11:44 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

not only that but typewriters had fonts, you just had to replace the
appropriate parts (and on some typewriters that was easy).

Only some more modern typewriters, like the IBM selectric, had fonts
on "golf balls." But historically all typewriters worked with striker
keys, and changing the font on them not only wasn't easy, it wasn't
possible.

And please don't forget Daisy Wheels :-)

Right, thanks. I couldn't remember that term.

But my point remains. They are only on relatively modern typewriters,
not on most.

Still, I should get credit for reminding you of Daisy Wheel typewriters.

I'll settle for two gold stars.

I'd say that changing fonts on striker key machines is possible, but
it's not a task to be undertaken lightly.

Of course, I probably should have said "possible, for some values of
'possible'" :-)

Possible? I suppose so. But it would essentially mean rebuilding the
entire typewriter. Perhaps someone has once done this, but I doubt it
very much.

Did I say otherwise? I thought I made it clear...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

nospam wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:41:05 -0500:

whatever comes with a stock install is that set.

But how do we find and DELETE the non-stock fonts, after
the fact, without having to resort to re-installing the
OS and all that entails?

nospam wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:41:10 -0500:

the point is that it's not almost every mac, especially since a mac out
of the box can read and write microsoft office documents without any
additional software.

That's fine.

What matters is identifying the fonts that are on the system
(which is easy, since Panopticlick does that for you), and then
figuring out HOW to delete the non-standard ones.

That's not so easy.
Or is it?

How do we go about deleting non-standard fonts?

In article , Sage wrote:
Your Name wrote, on Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:40:00 +1300:

Someone without Microsoft Office won't have the extra
fonts that Office installs

Almost every Windows and Mac laptop in the USA has Microsoft
Office on it, so, that's the set of fonts we would want to
replicate.

Nonsense. Many people are perfectly happy with Pages / Numbers,
especially now that they're free with a new computer / OS. Others use
other free alterantives.



It must be easy. For you to say it's impossible can't be right.

Try simple words: There is *NO* "standard" set of fonts (short of
installing only the OS and almost nothing else).

On 2015-01-27, Sage wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote, on Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:59:47 +0000:

Certainly not almost every Mac.

You want to be in the middle of the bell curve, and that middle
has Microsoft Office, no doubt about it.

I doubt it. And you'll have to do a lot more to convince me.

For you to say that most USA Mac laptops do NOT have Microsoft Office
on them, would belie belief.

How so? Macs can view Word documents without having Word installed. The
fact is a whole lot of Mac users have no need to spend good money on
Microsoft Office.

But, even if it were true, then that just makes being in the middle
of the bell curve different.

All you want is the font set that most of the others have.

No, that's what *you* want, apparently. I and millions of Mac users have
no such desire.

You're saying that font set is the default font set that comes
with the Mac, and I'm saying it also probably includes Microsoft
Office default fonts.

Most Mac users have the fonts that come with Mac OS X, and perhaps a few
installed by third-party applications. Having used and service many,
many Macs during the past almost 30 years, I am fairly certain the
majority don't have Microsoft Office installed.

Either way, that's the set you want.

You want it. I couldn't care less which fonts are installed on my
machines.

So, the question is how to get that set and ONLY that set?

First you need to know what fonts most others have. As far as I can see,
you haven't done that.

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JR

In article , Sage wrote:

nospam wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:41:10 -0500:

the point is that it's not almost every mac, especially since a mac out
of the box can read and write microsoft office documents without any
additional software.

That's fine.

What matters is identifying the fonts that are on the system
(which is easy, since Panopticlick does that for you), and then
figuring out HOW to delete the non-standard ones.

That's not so easy.
Or is it?

How do we go about deleting non-standard fonts?

There aren't any "non-standard" fonts, except those you've installed
yourself individually.

If you start removing other fonts, then some applciations will start
failing to work properly.