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Good news for Windows users!
Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser
By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ -- Regards, David B. |
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On 2018-12-05, David B. "David wrote:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ Whether it is 'good news' or not depends on the level of Microsoft spyware built into the thing and how far they'll go to push it, and Bing, onto users. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On 12/5/2018 5:11 AM, David B. wrote:
Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ I doubt that. MS and Google are not friends! I would rather suspect that G is stealing from MS !! Google = malware! |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 14:10:02 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake
wrote: On 2018-12-05, David B. "David wrote: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ Whether it is 'good news' or not depends on the level of Microsoft spyware built into the thing and how far they'll go to push it, and Bing, onto users. To me, whether it's good news or bad depends on what it turns out to be like. Of all the browsers I've tried, I think Edge is the worst, and Chrome is only one step above it. My understanding that the new browser will use Chrome's engine, but not be like Chrome itself. We'll see. If I were betting on it, I would bet that I'd like it better than Edge, but think it was nowhere near as good as FireFox. |
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On 12/5/18 3:11 AM, David B. wrote:
Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ Just use Firefox or Brave or both. |
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On 2018-12-05 9:32 a.m., Mathedman wrote:
On 12/5/2018 5:11 AM, David B. wrote: Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ I doubt that. MS and Google are not friends! Â* I would rather suspect that G is stealing from MS !! Google = malware! The Chromium browser engine is open-source so you can use it without including Google services. Of course, any additions made to the code of the engine itself will become available to Google in the same way that they will be to Microsoft itself so there will likely be little difference between whatever Microsoft creates and Google Chrome itself. -- SilverSlimer Minds: @silverslimer |
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On 5-12-2018 18:32, SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-12-05 9:32 a.m., Mathedman wrote: On 12/5/2018 5:11 AM, David B. wrote: Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ I doubt that. MS and Google are not friends! I would rather suspect that G is stealing from MS !! Google = malware! The Chromium browser engine is open-source so you can use it without including Google services. Of course, any additions made to the code of the engine itself will become available to Google in the same way that they will be to Microsoft itself so there will likely be little difference between whatever Microsoft creates and Google Chrome itself. You missed the events where M$ screwed all the "international rule agreements"? With a small (or big) " improvements " without any consultation, until the thing became useless? Watch their demo on how to screw Chrome software. |
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"David B." "David wrote:
Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...soft-replacing -edge-with-new-chromium-based-browser/ Have to disagree with the article, I've been using Edge for sometime now and have had issues so far. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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On 12/5/2018 11:32 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
On 2018-12-05 9:32 a.m., Mathedman wrote: On 12/5/2018 5:11 AM, David B. wrote: Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ I doubt that. MS and Google are not friends! Â*Â* I would rather suspect that G is stealing from MS !! Google = malware! The Chromium browser engine is open-source so you can use it without including Google services. Of course, any additions made to the code of the engine itself will become available to Google in the same way that they will be to Microsoft itself so there will likely be little difference between whatever Microsoft creates and Google Chrome itself. BUT, if you download it you get MORE than Chrome, which I at least do not want on my machine. AND. if you remove it The actual Chrome program gets removed but the extra stuff remains. What's wrong with the good program you already have (internet Explorer) |
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On 05/12/2018 18:49, XS11E wrote:
"David B." "David wrote: Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...soft-replacing -edge-with-new-chromium-based-browser/ Have to disagree with the article, I've been using Edge for sometime now and have had issues so far. Did you mean "... and have had *NO* issues so far"? -- Regards, David B. |
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On 05/12/2018 16:36, T wrote:
On 12/5/18 3:11 AM, David B. wrote: Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ Just use Firefox or Brave or both. I'm just the messenger, 'T'! ;-) -- Regards, David B. |
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"David B." "David wrote:
On 05/12/2018 18:49, XS11E wrote: "David B." "David wrote: Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...soft-replacing -edge-with-new-chromium-based-browser/ Have to disagree with the article, I've been using Edge for sometime now and have had issues so far. Did you mean "... and have had *NO* issues so far"? Correct, Edge works OK, my fingers don't seem to. Thanks. -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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XS11E wrote:
"David B." "David wrote: On 05/12/2018 18:49, XS11E wrote: "David B." "David wrote: Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...soft-replacing -edge-with-new-chromium-based-browser/ Have to disagree with the article, I've been using Edge for sometime now and have had issues so far. Did you mean "... and have had *NO* issues so far"? Correct, Edge works OK, my fingers don't seem to. Thanks. Did you try my "giant PDF file" test case ? MSEdge causes a garbage collector for the desktop to rail on one CPU core for around 20 seconds after you examine a large PDF with the MSEdge PDF plugin. During this time, any double clicks you do on the desktop, are ignored. (You have to wait 20 seconds, before you can start, say, Notepad.) Microsoft patched the recurrence of those railed CPU behaviors, but haven't cured the initial 20 second outage. The problem is still there. The test PDF file used for this, is a PDF file from the Microsoft site. It contains 26,300 pages. That's not a bug by the way, it's an architectural shortcoming they won't be fixing. This is what Metro applications bring to a desktop which is HTML/js based. Just a reminder of what Edge looks like. https://s26.postimg.cc/6g1kartix/tab_thumb_edge.gif And I don't set out with an "evil plan" to break stuff in 2018. I just try stuff for the first time. And it breaks. For example, with LibreOffice, just about every test case I've ever run through it, "comes out wobbly". (The first time, I was getting OpenGL-inspired crashes.) When I ran ImageMagick (with its OpenMP library enabled by default), it locked up the computer when multiple threads tried to Malloc() memory buffers at the same instant in time. I wasn't expecting that one either. Microsoft fixed that. There really isn't a lot of well tested code sitting out there in 2018. When you say you "haven't found issues", you should fully expect to find an issue in the next 24 hours. Nothing is really tested all that well. Not programs with 600,000 source files in their tarball. Those aren't tested all that well. There are test benches inside, to test for "correctness" at the module level, but not overall usability. That's why Firefox has an entire telemetry system to report memory usage and crashes. It allows the developers to determine "20.4% of users saw Firefox 52ESR to crash on this line of code". They know this, because they have a subsystem reporting it. Microsoft on the other hand, has its own CEIP. The difference, is the Firefox capability, reports directly to Mozilla, while CEIP, a developer has to log into Microsoft, to get the info collected via CEIP. Mozilla went to the trouble of writing that subsystem that way, just so Microsoft would not get a copy of the data. Microsoft will ruin that Chromium browser, but because it will no longer look like Chromium, nobody will be affected by the outcome. The Chromium browser they start with will be Win32, but it won't stay that way for long. I'd prefer for them to *deliver* the browser first, and then happen to casually mention what it's based on, rather than leaking some announcement building up expectations, only to receive a letdown when it comes out. One of the first things it'll need, will be a telemetry transplant ("vortex"). Paul |
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On 05/12/2018 20:29, XS11E wrote:
"David B." "David wrote: On 05/12/2018 18:49, XS11E wrote: "David B." "David wrote: Microsoft Replacing Edge With New Chromium-based Browser By Mayank Parmar December 4, 2018 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...soft-replacing -edge-with-new-chromium-based-browser/ Have to disagree with the article, I've been using Edge for sometime now and have had issues so far. Did you mean "... and have had *NO* issues so far"? Correct, Edge works OK, my fingers don't seem to. Thanks. YW :-D Age plays many tricks! -- Regards, David B. |
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On 05/12/2018 15:45, Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 14:10:02 -0000 (UTC), Roger Blake wrote: On 2018-12-05, David B. "David wrote: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...based-browser/ Whether it is 'good news' or not depends on the level of Microsoft spyware built into the thing and how far they'll go to push it, and Bing, onto users. To me, whether it's good news or bad depends on what it turns out to be like. Of all the browsers I've tried, I think Edge is the worst, and Chrome is only one step above it. My understanding that the new browser will use Chrome's engine, but not be like Chrome itself. We'll see. If I were betting on it, I would bet that I'd like it better than Edge, but think it was nowhere near as good as FireFox. I use Safari, Chome AND Firefox on my Apple iMac. Nowadays, I find that there's little to choose between them. I've also used Edge on my Windows 10 laptop and so far have never encountered any problem. -- Regards, David B. |
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