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Some files won't defragment
I tried running disc defragmenter today and I received a message saying some
files could not be fragmented. This is the report I was shown. Volume (C Volume size = 70.94 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 53.71 GB Free space = 17.24 GB Percent free space = 24 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 8 % File fragmentation = 16 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 83,744 Average file size = 780 KB Total fragmented files = 5 Total excess fragments = 2,590 Average fragments per file = 1.03 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 5,996 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 134 MB MFT record count = 90,159 Percent MFT in use = 65 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented 98 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054780.rbf 1,805 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054778.rbf 125 1.45 GB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP535\A0049612.exe I searched for this files on my hardrive and could not find them. What are this files for and do I need them? Would it be safe to delete them? |
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"DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I tried running disc defragmenter today and I received a message saying some files could not be fragmented. This is the report I was shown. Volume (C Volume size = 70.94 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 53.71 GB Free space = 17.24 GB Percent free space = 24 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 8 % File fragmentation = 16 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 83,744 Average file size = 780 KB Total fragmented files = 5 Total excess fragments = 2,590 Average fragments per file = 1.03 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 5,996 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 134 MB MFT record count = 90,159 Percent MFT in use = 65 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented 98 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054780.rbf 1,805 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054778.rbf 125 1.45 GB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP535\A0049612.exe I searched for this files on my hardrive and could not find them. What are this files for and do I need them? Would it be safe to delete them? They are hidden files which contain restore points. Only you know whether you will need them or not. Fragmentation of these files is not very important because they are seldom accessed. Jim |
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There are certain files that disk defragmenter will not defragment. The main
one on your list is system restore files. These don't need defragmenting because they are replaced by new ones as your system creates new restore points and older ones get deleted. Two other areas that are not defragmented are the hibernation file (hiberfile.sys) and the paging file. If you use hibernation you can get round this problem by disabling hibernation prior to defrgamenting your drive. To defragment the paging file you need an alternative defragmenter. Something like Perfect disk will do this, but it is not free, i'm afraid. -- John Barnett MVP Associate Expert http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post.. "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I tried running disc defragmenter today and I received a message saying some files could not be fragmented. This is the report I was shown. Volume (C Volume size = 70.94 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 53.71 GB Free space = 17.24 GB Percent free space = 24 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 8 % File fragmentation = 16 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 83,744 Average file size = 780 KB Total fragmented files = 5 Total excess fragments = 2,590 Average fragments per file = 1.03 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 5,996 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 134 MB MFT record count = 90,159 Percent MFT in use = 65 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented 98 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054780.rbf 1,805 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054778.rbf 125 1.45 GB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP535\A0049612.exe I searched for this files on my hardrive and could not find them. What are this files for and do I need them? Would it be safe to delete them? |
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Some files won't defragment
I should have been a bit clearer in my first post. When I attempt to
defragment my hardrive, it gets to around 15-16% completed before giving me the message that some files cannot be defragmented and then stopping. Now from the previous posts I'm assuming I can delete them, but I cannot find them. I have the option set to show hidden files and folders. When I use the search function, it is also set to search in hidden files and folders. Any idea on how I can find and get rid of these files so I can defrag the rest of my hardrive? |
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Some files won't defragment
All I had to do was turn off the system restore setting. That deleted the
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Some files won't defragment
The files are not actually files they are folders, each being System
Restore point. They are all within your System Volume Information folder. The contents remain hidden even when " Show Hidden Files" is enabled to discourage users from deleting them. You can see the contents if you follow the instructions in the Knowledge Base Article, which follows: How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;309531 There are two preferred ways to delete the contents of these folders ( or most of the contents as some files need to be retained ). In certain specific circumstances one would delete all restore points by turning System Restore off and then back on. This is desirable if there has been a viral infection and restore points contain the virus. This is achieved by right clicking your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, and checking the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. To turn System Restore back on you simply uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. In normal situations System Restore should only be monitoring the drive or partition containing your Windows operating system files. As part of routine maintenance you should use Disk CleanUp to remove all but the latest restore points, except when the system is unable and you might need older restore points to back to an earlier system set up. Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore, OK, and OK. This is what you should do now. Another aspect of System Restore to be mentioned is the default space allocation of 12%. This is allocation is over generous given the size of new hard drives today's. Reset it to 4% by dragging the slider to the left. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, select Drive C and click on Settings. You can read more about System Restore he http://bertk.mvps.org/ When you have used Disk CleanUp and changed the System Restore Allocation run Disk CleanUp to remove all Temporary Internet Files and to empty the Recycle Bin. If you have more than one user logging on you need to do it in each User Profile. You should then be in a position to see Disk Defragmenter fully defragment your drive. I say fully defragment but in reality the Defragmenter provided with Windows XP leaves the Master File, Table, the Pagefile, some lesser files and free space fragmented. You may need to run Disk Defragmenter twice or three times to fully defragment your drive. I do not agree with the comments by others that defragmenting system restore point is unnecessary. It is true that a user will only ever need to access a system restore point once, if ever ,but a fragmented system restore point will increase fragmentation of other files because free space will be more fragmented. I notice that your pagefile is 768 mb. How much RAM memory do you have? Your System Restore Points are large. Have you been making a lot of system changes? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I should have been a bit clearer in my first post. When I attempt to defragment my hardrive, it gets to around 15-16% completed before giving me the message that some files cannot be defragmented and then stopping. Now from the previous posts I'm assuming I can delete them, but I cannot find them. I have the option set to show hidden files and folders. When I use the search function, it is also set to search in hidden files and folders. Any idea on how I can find and get rid of these files so I can defrag the rest of my hardrive? |
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I have 2 GB of RAM in my system. I guess the restore points were so large
because I removed about 9-13 GB of software and other files. Thanks for the help. "Gerry Cornell" wrote: The files are not actually files they are folders, each being System Restore point. They are all within your System Volume Information folder. The contents remain hidden even when " Show Hidden Files" is enabled to discourage users from deleting them. You can see the contents if you follow the instructions in the Knowledge Base Article, which follows: How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;309531 There are two preferred ways to delete the contents of these folders ( or most of the contents as some files need to be retained ). In certain specific circumstances one would delete all restore points by turning System Restore off and then back on. This is desirable if there has been a viral infection and restore points contain the virus. This is achieved by right clicking your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, and checking the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. To turn System Restore back on you simply uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. In normal situations System Restore should only be monitoring the drive or partition containing your Windows operating system files. As part of routine maintenance you should use Disk CleanUp to remove all but the latest restore points, except when the system is unable and you might need older restore points to back to an earlier system set up. Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore, OK, and OK. This is what you should do now. Another aspect of System Restore to be mentioned is the default space allocation of 12%. This is allocation is over generous given the size of new hard drives today's. Reset it to 4% by dragging the slider to the left. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, select Drive C and click on Settings. You can read more about System Restore he http://bertk.mvps.org/ When you have used Disk CleanUp and changed the System Restore Allocation run Disk CleanUp to remove all Temporary Internet Files and to empty the Recycle Bin. If you have more than one user logging on you need to do it in each User Profile. You should then be in a position to see Disk Defragmenter fully defragment your drive. I say fully defragment but in reality the Defragmenter provided with Windows XP leaves the Master File, Table, the Pagefile, some lesser files and free space fragmented. You may need to run Disk Defragmenter twice or three times to fully defragment your drive. I do not agree with the comments by others that defragmenting system restore point is unnecessary. It is true that a user will only ever need to access a system restore point once, if ever ,but a fragmented system restore point will increase fragmentation of other files because free space will be more fragmented. I notice that your pagefile is 768 mb. How much RAM memory do you have? Your System Restore Points are large. Have you been making a lot of system changes? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I should have been a bit clearer in my first post. When I attempt to defragment my hardrive, it gets to around 15-16% completed before giving me the message that some files cannot be defragmented and then stopping. Now from the previous posts I'm assuming I can delete them, but I cannot find them. I have the option set to show hidden files and folders. When I use the search function, it is also set to search in hidden files and folders. Any idea on how I can find and get rid of these files so I can defrag the rest of my hardrive? |
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That is a lot of RAM
Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task Manager and select the Performance Tab. What is the Total, the Commit Charge and the Peak? You managed to use a lot of disk space on a fairly large hard drive. Have you considered a partitioned second hard drive to archive or backup data files? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message news I have 2 GB of RAM in my system. I guess the restore points were so large because I removed about 9-13 GB of software and other files. Thanks for the help. "Gerry Cornell" wrote: The files are not actually files they are folders, each being System Restore point. They are all within your System Volume Information folder. The contents remain hidden even when " Show Hidden Files" is enabled to discourage users from deleting them. You can see the contents if you follow the instructions in the Knowledge Base Article, which follows: How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;309531 There are two preferred ways to delete the contents of these folders ( or most of the contents as some files need to be retained ). In certain specific circumstances one would delete all restore points by turning System Restore off and then back on. This is desirable if there has been a viral infection and restore points contain the virus. This is achieved by right clicking your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, and checking the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. To turn System Restore back on you simply uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. In normal situations System Restore should only be monitoring the drive or partition containing your Windows operating system files. As part of routine maintenance you should use Disk CleanUp to remove all but the latest restore points, except when the system is unable and you might need older restore points to back to an earlier system set up. Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore, OK, and OK. This is what you should do now. Another aspect of System Restore to be mentioned is the default space allocation of 12%. This is allocation is over generous given the size of new hard drives today's. Reset it to 4% by dragging the slider to the left. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, select Drive C and click on Settings. You can read more about System Restore he http://bertk.mvps.org/ When you have used Disk CleanUp and changed the System Restore Allocation run Disk CleanUp to remove all Temporary Internet Files and to empty the Recycle Bin. If you have more than one user logging on you need to do it in each User Profile. You should then be in a position to see Disk Defragmenter fully defragment your drive. I say fully defragment but in reality the Defragmenter provided with Windows XP leaves the Master File, Table, the Pagefile, some lesser files and free space fragmented. You may need to run Disk Defragmenter twice or three times to fully defragment your drive. I do not agree with the comments by others that defragmenting system restore point is unnecessary. It is true that a user will only ever need to access a system restore point once, if ever ,but a fragmented system restore point will increase fragmentation of other files because free space will be more fragmented. I notice that your pagefile is 768 mb. How much RAM memory do you have? Your System Restore Points are large. Have you been making a lot of system changes? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I should have been a bit clearer in my first post. When I attempt to defragment my hardrive, it gets to around 15-16% completed before giving me the message that some files cannot be defragmented and then stopping. Now from the previous posts I'm assuming I can delete them, but I cannot find them. I have the option set to show hidden files and folders. When I use the search function, it is also set to search in hidden files and folders. Any idea on how I can find and get rid of these files so I can defrag the rest of my hardrive? |
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Some files can't be defragmented as you've already found out. Please have a look at the following article: http://tinyurl.com/eyg33 Be very sure what you are doing if you access the SVI folder!! Altering anything in there will render System Restore inoperable!! -- Will Denny MS MVP Windows Shell/User Please reply to the News Groups "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I tried running disc defragmenter today and I received a message saying some files could not be fragmented. This is the report I was shown. Volume (C Volume size = 70.94 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 53.71 GB Free space = 17.24 GB Percent free space = 24 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 8 % File fragmentation = 16 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 83,744 Average file size = 780 KB Total fragmented files = 5 Total excess fragments = 2,590 Average fragments per file = 1.03 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 5,996 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 134 MB MFT record count = 90,159 Percent MFT in use = 65 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented 98 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054780.rbf 1,805 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054778.rbf 125 1.45 GB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP535\A0049612.exe I searched for this files on my hardrive and could not find them. What are this files for and do I need them? Would it be safe to delete them? |
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"=?Utf-8?B?RHJjQW5qZWw=?=" wrote in
: I tried running disc defragmenter today and I received a message saying some files could not be fragmented. This is the report I was shown. There is a tool that can defrag some of the system files at boot time. For more info go he http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/PageDefrag.html Many other good freeware tools are available at sysinternals. Good Luck |
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Will
It is I believe quite common for the MFT to be in 3 fragments rather 2. Any idea why? I do not think it is for the reason inferred by the Resource Kit Article. -- Regards. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Will Denny" wrote in message ... Hi Some files can't be defragmented as you've already found out. Please have a look at the following article: http://tinyurl.com/eyg33 Be very sure what you are doing if you access the SVI folder!! Altering anything in there will render System Restore inoperable!! -- Will Denny MS MVP Windows Shell/User Please reply to the News Groups "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I tried running disc defragmenter today and I received a message saying some files could not be fragmented. This is the report I was shown. Volume (C Volume size = 70.94 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 53.71 GB Free space = 17.24 GB Percent free space = 24 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 8 % File fragmentation = 16 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 83,744 Average file size = 780 KB Total fragmented files = 5 Total excess fragments = 2,590 Average fragments per file = 1.03 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 5,996 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 134 MB MFT record count = 90,159 Percent MFT in use = 65 % Total MFT fragments = 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented 98 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054780.rbf 1,805 1,024 MB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP556\A0054778.rbf 125 1.45 GB \System Volume Information\_restore{CCA15F78-7193-4CA6-8115-2B570DD6546C}\RP535\A0049612.exe I searched for this files on my hardrive and could not find them. What are this files for and do I need them? Would it be safe to delete them? |
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Commit Charge (K)
Total = 428772 Limit = 2727772 Peak = 1795752 I have thought about adding a second drive, but I want to upgrade my video card and that will take the last plug on my power supply. I could uninstall my floppy drive and just use a usb flash card to give me another plug for a second drive. "Gerry Cornell" wrote: That is a lot of RAM Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task Manager and select the Performance Tab. What is the Total, the Commit Charge and the Peak? You managed to use a lot of disk space on a fairly large hard drive. Have you considered a partitioned second hard drive to archive or backup data files? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message news I have 2 GB of RAM in my system. I guess the restore points were so large because I removed about 9-13 GB of software and other files. Thanks for the help. "Gerry Cornell" wrote: The files are not actually files they are folders, each being System Restore point. They are all within your System Volume Information folder. The contents remain hidden even when " Show Hidden Files" is enabled to discourage users from deleting them. You can see the contents if you follow the instructions in the Knowledge Base Article, which follows: How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;309531 There are two preferred ways to delete the contents of these folders ( or most of the contents as some files need to be retained ). In certain specific circumstances one would delete all restore points by turning System Restore off and then back on. This is desirable if there has been a viral infection and restore points contain the virus. This is achieved by right clicking your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, and checking the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. To turn System Restore back on you simply uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. In normal situations System Restore should only be monitoring the drive or partition containing your Windows operating system files. As part of routine maintenance you should use Disk CleanUp to remove all but the latest restore points, except when the system is unable and you might need older restore points to back to an earlier system set up. Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore, OK, and OK. This is what you should do now. Another aspect of System Restore to be mentioned is the default space allocation of 12%. This is allocation is over generous given the size of new hard drives today's. Reset it to 4% by dragging the slider to the left. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, select Drive C and click on Settings. You can read more about System Restore he http://bertk.mvps.org/ When you have used Disk CleanUp and changed the System Restore Allocation run Disk CleanUp to remove all Temporary Internet Files and to empty the Recycle Bin. If you have more than one user logging on you need to do it in each User Profile. You should then be in a position to see Disk Defragmenter fully defragment your drive. I say fully defragment but in reality the Defragmenter provided with Windows XP leaves the Master File, Table, the Pagefile, some lesser files and free space fragmented. You may need to run Disk Defragmenter twice or three times to fully defragment your drive. I do not agree with the comments by others that defragmenting system restore point is unnecessary. It is true that a user will only ever need to access a system restore point once, if ever ,but a fragmented system restore point will increase fragmentation of other files because free space will be more fragmented. I notice that your pagefile is 768 mb. How much RAM memory do you have? Your System Restore Points are large. Have you been making a lot of system changes? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I should have been a bit clearer in my first post. When I attempt to defragment my hardrive, it gets to around 15-16% completed before giving me the message that some files cannot be defragmented and then stopping. Now from the previous posts I'm assuming I can delete them, but I cannot find them. I have the option set to show hidden files and folders. When I use the search function, it is also set to search in hidden files and folders. Any idea on how I can find and get rid of these files so I can defrag the rest of my hardrive? |
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What programmes are you using that use so much memory?
Is your hard drive formatted as FAT32 or NTFS? Do some of the files on your hard disk represent data archives, which might be backed up to a CD? Do you have any Norton utilities? FileSize -a useful tool for use with Windows Explorer when investigating how disk space is being used. http://markd.mvps.org/ In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options, Temporary Internet Options, Settings. What is the disk space allocation? Web site addresses added to Favourites. When adding to Favourites do you check the box before "Make available Offline" always often or occasionally? You could change your hard disk for a larger disk. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... Commit Charge (K) Total = 428772 Limit = 2727772 Peak = 1795752 I have thought about adding a second drive, but I want to upgrade my video card and that will take the last plug on my power supply. I could uninstall my floppy drive and just use a usb flash card to give me another plug for a second drive. "Gerry Cornell" wrote: That is a lot of RAM Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring Task Manager and select the Performance Tab. What is the Total, the Commit Charge and the Peak? You managed to use a lot of disk space on a fairly large hard drive. Have you considered a partitioned second hard drive to archive or backup data files? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message news I have 2 GB of RAM in my system. I guess the restore points were so large because I removed about 9-13 GB of software and other files. Thanks for the help. "Gerry Cornell" wrote: The files are not actually files they are folders, each being System Restore point. They are all within your System Volume Information folder. The contents remain hidden even when " Show Hidden Files" is enabled to discourage users from deleting them. You can see the contents if you follow the instructions in the Knowledge Base Article, which follows: How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;309531 There are two preferred ways to delete the contents of these folders ( or most of the contents as some files need to be retained ). In certain specific circumstances one would delete all restore points by turning System Restore off and then back on. This is desirable if there has been a viral infection and restore points contain the virus. This is achieved by right clicking your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, and checking the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. To turn System Restore back on you simply uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives" and click on OK. In normal situations System Restore should only be monitoring the drive or partition containing your Windows operating system files. As part of routine maintenance you should use Disk CleanUp to remove all but the latest restore points, except when the system is unable and you might need older restore points to back to an earlier system set up. Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options, System Restore, OK, and OK. This is what you should do now. Another aspect of System Restore to be mentioned is the default space allocation of 12%. This is allocation is over generous given the size of new hard drives today's. Reset it to 4% by dragging the slider to the left. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop, selecting Properties, System Restore, select Drive C and click on Settings. You can read more about System Restore he http://bertk.mvps.org/ When you have used Disk CleanUp and changed the System Restore Allocation run Disk CleanUp to remove all Temporary Internet Files and to empty the Recycle Bin. If you have more than one user logging on you need to do it in each User Profile. You should then be in a position to see Disk Defragmenter fully defragment your drive. I say fully defragment but in reality the Defragmenter provided with Windows XP leaves the Master File, Table, the Pagefile, some lesser files and free space fragmented. You may need to run Disk Defragmenter twice or three times to fully defragment your drive. I do not agree with the comments by others that defragmenting system restore point is unnecessary. It is true that a user will only ever need to access a system restore point once, if ever ,but a fragmented system restore point will increase fragmentation of other files because free space will be more fragmented. I notice that your pagefile is 768 mb. How much RAM memory do you have? Your System Restore Points are large. Have you been making a lot of system changes? -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "DrcAnjel" wrote in message ... I should have been a bit clearer in my first post. When I attempt to defragment my hardrive, it gets to around 15-16% completed before giving me the message that some files cannot be defragmented and then stopping. Now from the previous posts I'm assuming I can delete them, but I cannot find them. I have the option set to show hidden files and folders. When I use the search function, it is also set to search in hidden files and folders. Any idea on how I can find and get rid of these files so I can defrag the rest of my hardrive? |
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Some files won't defragment
I checked out the processes list in the task manager to see how much memory
was being used by what. Here's a list of everything that is using more than 10,000 K: AcctMgr.exe 11,864 K aim.exe 35,832 K CCAAgent.exe 16,752 K CCAPP.EXE 23,352 K CLI.exe 10,520 K explorer.exe 23,892 K iexplorer.exe 39,364 K PCMService.exe 20,892 K svchost.exe 22,820 K The svchost.exe is listed in the process list 5 times. Twice it is being used by SYSTEM, twice by NETWORK SERVICE, and once by LOCAL SERVICE. My hard drive is formatted as NTSF. About 2 GB of files could be moved to CD, I just haven't gotten around to it. Yes, I have Norton Internet Security 2005 and Norton Password Manager. I only have 256 MB allocated to temporary Internet files and I never check the box to make my favorites offline. "Gerry Cornell" wrote: What programmes are you using that use so much memory? Is your hard drive formatted as FAT32 or NTFS? Do some of the files on your hard disk represent data archives, which might be backed up to a CD? Do you have any Norton utilities? FileSize -a useful tool for use with Windows Explorer when investigating how disk space is being used. http://markd.mvps.org/ In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options, Temporary Internet Options, Settings. What is the disk space allocation? Web site addresses added to Favourites. When adding to Favourites do you check the box before "Make available Offline" always often or occasionally? You could change your hard disk for a larger disk. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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