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On 2019-11-11 7:28 a.m., nospam wrote:
In article , VanguardLH wrote: I've yet to see a car mechanic at the shop whine about what choices their customers made for brand and model of car. They get paid to work on whatever car the customer has. they might not whine directly to the customer, but they definitely whine and in many cases, will refuse to work on certain makes/models. I was an automotive mechanic in my young days and had my own shop for about 10 years. I gladly worked on anything that came on the lot, from lawn mowers, any car or truck from Issetta 3 wheel car to Kenworth diesel road tractors and everything in between no matter what brand, Even brands that only the dealers serviced. VW, NSU Prinze, Volvo, Issetta, Rolls Royce and many others. I never complained as it fed me and my family and was also good learning experience. Rene |
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In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote: I've yet to see a car mechanic at the shop whine about what choices their customers made for brand and model of car. They get paid to work on whatever car the customer has. they might not whine directly to the customer, but they definitely whine and in many cases, will refuse to work on certain makes/models. I was an automotive mechanic in my young days and had my own shop for about 10 years. I gladly worked on anything that came on the lot, from lawn mowers, any car or truck from Issetta 3 wheel car to Kenworth diesel road tractors and everything in between no matter what brand, Even brands that only the dealers serviced. VW, NSU Prinze, Volvo, Issetta, Rolls Royce and many others. I never complained as it fed me and my family and was also good learning experience. i'm sure you dreaded certain makes/models that required a lot more effort to do simple repairs. there are a lot of vehicles that have incredibly ****ed up designs, including lifting the engine for routine maintenance, and you can be sure that mechanics are not happy when they see one come in. they're also usually excluded from any discounts or fixed price repairs because of the additional work involved. |
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On 2019-11-11 10:57 a.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: I've yet to see a car mechanic at the shop whine about what choices their customers made for brand and model of car. They get paid to work on whatever car the customer has. they might not whine directly to the customer, but they definitely whine and in many cases, will refuse to work on certain makes/models. I was an automotive mechanic in my young days and had my own shop for about 10 years. I gladly worked on anything that came on the lot, from lawn mowers, any car or truck from Issetta 3 wheel car to Kenworth diesel road tractors and everything in between no matter what brand, Even brands that only the dealers serviced. VW, NSU Prinze, Volvo, Issetta, Rolls Royce and many others. I never complained as it fed me and my family and was also good learning experience. i'm sure you dreaded certain makes/models that required a lot more effort to do simple repairs. there are a lot of vehicles that have incredibly ****ed up designs, including lifting the engine for routine maintenance, and you can be sure that mechanics are not happy when they see one come in. they're also usually excluded from any discounts or fixed price repairs because of the additional work involved. No,didn't dread any challenge but back then we charged according to Chiltons labor manuals where each job on all makes where allotted a certain charge time so if you had to pull the engine for a certain job that was included in the charge time. Rene |
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On 11/11/19 3:54 AM, VanguardLH wrote: T wrote: VanguardLH wrote: So why did you get new hardware that doesn't support your old hardware? I will give you three guesses! How did you get loose? If your customers are making their own choices, and they don't give a gnat's fart about their paid consultant's opinions (i.e., yours), they are paying you to support their choices, and you choose to remain employed by them, then stop whining about making an income on their choices. I've yet to see a car mechanic at the shop whine about what choices their customers made for brand and model of car. They get paid to work on whatever car the customer has. If your customers made perfect choices as you profess they should, they wouldn't need you and you'd be collecting welfare or living with your parents and having them feed you. Hmm, they're paying you to be their consultant, but they don't listen to you. That might be a clue as to whether they really want you working for them. Seems a waste of their money to pay you when they don't care about what you recommend. I've yet to see any customer that had a perfect setup when you show up after they hire you. Ever have a sysadmin job at a corporate site? You were not there. I gave no details other than the spec on the label printer. I did not tell anyone the outcome or what I did. I made no mention of the custmer's reaction. Yet you seems to know. How is that? WHO UNTIED YOU ???? You did when you mentioned old printers not having the necessary hardware on a new PC, and old but critical software that won't on a later version of the OS. Then you overtly asked me to guess. If you cannot retain the train of thought in a subthread, reread it before replying. |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , T writes: On 11/9/19 12:37 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , T writes: [] Four quick tips on calming 10 down: 1) NVMe drive Would you care to explain, in words a bear of little brain might understand, why that helps? (Probably starting with "what is an NVMe drive - is it something new, or something old?") Hi John, Certainly! An NVMe drive, is a little module about 3/4" by 4" that fits directly into your motherboard that substitutes for a mechanical hard drive. NVMe drives are currently the fastest a form of SSD (solid state) drive. Got it (see previous post). I'm still wary of SSDs, though on increasingly unjustifiable grounds (if I backup properly). No reason to be. SSDs are at least as reliable as HDDs. The only reason to get HDDs is for very large capacity dives e.g backup. [Will Office 2003 run on 10?] Don't actually know. I though 2003 was their best release, before it got so stinkin' bloated. Yes, me too - last to not use the *x formats (like .docx). I've never seen any explanation as to why they (which are really just a .zip, rebadged) are supposed to be better in any way (though granted I haven't looked) It's an open format. Meaning that it is suitable for archiving and other desktop apps can, in theory, read/write to it. Not just Microsoft Word et al. However, as per usual, MS manipulated the system and forced through their standard which they didn't (still don't?) even support fully themselves. . [I'm also unaware - again, not having looked for such answers - of any alleged answers later versions have. Apart from the dreaded ribbons, which I found gave little if any advantage (had to use them at work so I got used to using them), and ate up screen space.] Also check out the free Libre Office. It reminds me of Office 2003 in its look and feel. LO is a bit buggy, but less so than Office IMO, just different bugs. But you can report them to the authors, unlike Office I like that concept (of being able to talk to the authors). Don't expect to be able to use LO together with Office transparently. Impress, for example, is orders of magnitude worse than PowerPoint. |
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In message , Chris
writes: J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: [] Got it (see previous post). I'm still wary of SSDs, though on increasingly unjustifiable grounds (if I backup properly). No reason to be. SSDs are at least as reliable as HDDs. The only reason to get HDDs is for very large capacity dives e.g backup. I'm dubious, but even if you're right, it's the _way_ they eventually fail - suddenly, totally, and with no warning - that puts me off. Yes, I know - if doing enough backups, that shouldn't matter. [] Yes, me too - last to not use the *x formats (like .docx). I've never seen any explanation as to why they (which are really just a .zip, rebadged) are supposed to be better in any way (though granted I haven't looked) It's an open format. Meaning that it is suitable for archiving and other desktop apps can, in theory, read/write to it. Not just Microsoft Word et al. However, as per usual, MS manipulated the system and forced through their standard which they didn't (still don't?) even support fully themselves. So it's "Microsoft's open format" )-:. . [I'm also unaware - again, not having looked for such answers - of any alleged answers later versions have. Apart from the dreaded ribbons, which I found gave little if any advantage (had to use them at work so I got used to using them), and ate up screen space.] Also check out the free Libre Office. It reminds me of Office 2003 in its look and feel. LO is a bit buggy, but less so than Office IMO, just different bugs. But you can report them to the authors, unlike Office I like that concept (of being able to talk to the authors). Don't expect to be able to use LO together with Office transparently. Impress, for example, is orders of magnitude worse than PowerPoint. I'm only likely to use Word and Excel. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If you want to make people angry, lie to them. If you want to make them absolutely livid, then tell 'em the truth. |
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In article , J. P. Gilliver (John)
wrote: Got it (see previous post). I'm still wary of SSDs, though on increasingly unjustifiable grounds (if I backup properly). No reason to be. SSDs are at least as reliable as HDDs. The only reason to get HDDs is for very large capacity dives e.g backup. I'm dubious, but even if you're right, it's the _way_ they eventually fail - suddenly, totally, and with no warning - that puts me off. hard drives are far more likely to suddenly fail without warning than an ssd. not only that, but a failed ssd in many cases will be read-only, which means no data is lost. Yes, I know - if doing enough backups, that shouldn't matter. correct. |
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On 11/11/19 3:51 PM, Chris wrote:
No reason to be. SSDs are at least as reliable as HDDs. The only reason to get HDDs is for very large capacity dives e.g backup. uhhhhh. I took it in the shorts with SSD's. Almost stopped using them until I came across Samsung. |
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On 11/11/19 12:25 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
T wrote: On 11/11/19 3:54 AM, VanguardLH wrote: T wrote: VanguardLH wrote: So why did you get new hardware that doesn't support your old hardware? I will give you three guesses! How did you get loose? If your customers are making their own choices, and they don't give a gnat's fart about their paid consultant's opinions (i.e., yours), they are paying you to support their choices, and you choose to remain employed by them, then stop whining about making an income on their choices. I've yet to see a car mechanic at the shop whine about what choices their customers made for brand and model of car. They get paid to work on whatever car the customer has. If your customers made perfect choices as you profess they should, they wouldn't need you and you'd be collecting welfare or living with your parents and having them feed you. Hmm, they're paying you to be their consultant, but they don't listen to you. That might be a clue as to whether they really want you working for them. Seems a waste of their money to pay you when they don't care about what you recommend. I've yet to see any customer that had a perfect setup when you show up after they hire you. Ever have a sysadmin job at a corporate site? You were not there. I gave no details other than the spec on the label printer. I did not tell anyone the outcome or what I did. I made no mention of the custmer's reaction. Yet you seems to know. How is that? WHO UNTIED YOU ???? You did when you mentioned old printers not having the necessary hardware on a new PC, and old but critical software that won't on a later version of the OS. Then you overtly asked me to guess. If you cannot retain the train of thought in a subthread, reread it before replying. Hi Vanguard, You actually thought I was asking you to guess? "I will give you three guesses" was SARCASM. Here is a tip when dealing with me. If you are curious about the details of something, just ask me. And reframe from answer every possible sererio I might answer. Doing such comes off at the least as you being a blow hard and at the worst as condescending. And you are a blow hard, but the good kind of blow hard. I am too to a certain extent. I don't believe you mean to be condescending either, or I would have kill filed you years ago. When I answer you with the details, then its time for your missives. And remember, I have the attention span of a 12 year old (a gnat) as well as the sense of humor of one. Get to the point without the rambling. -T |
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On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:20:59 -0500, nospam wrote:
In article , J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: Got it (see previous post). I'm still wary of SSDs, though on increasingly unjustifiable grounds (if I backup properly). No reason to be. SSDs are at least as reliable as HDDs. The only reason to get HDDs is for very large capacity dives e.g backup. I'm dubious, but even if you're right, it's the _way_ they eventually fail - suddenly, totally, and with no warning - that puts me off. hard drives are far more likely to suddenly fail without warning than an ssd. not only that, but a failed ssd in many cases will be read-only, which means no data is lost. That has been pointed out multiple times already, but John remains skeptical. -- Char Jackson |
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On 12.11.19 1:20, nospam wrote:
In article , J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: Got it (see previous post). I'm still wary of SSDs, though on increasingly unjustifiable grounds (if I backup properly). No reason to be. SSDs are at least as reliable as HDDs. The only reason to get HDDs is for very large capacity dives e.g backup. I'm dubious, but even if you're right, it's the _way_ they eventually fail - suddenly, totally, and with no warning - that puts me off. hard drives are far more likely to suddenly fail without warning than an ssd. cut Oh dear, i will dump my dos computers(20 years old, 4 harddisks) and my winxp computer(16 years old, 2 internal and 2 usb harddisks) How dare they survive for such a "short" time. |
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On 11/11/19 6:45 PM, Sjouke Burry wrote:
hardÂ*drivesÂ*areÂ*farÂ*moreÂ*likelyÂ*toÂ*suddenly Â*failÂ*withoutÂ*warningÂ*than anÂ*ssd. cut OhÂ*dear,Â*iÂ*willÂ*dumpÂ*myÂ*dosÂ*computers(20Â*y earsÂ*Â*old,Â*4Â*harddisks) andÂ*myÂ*winxpÂ*computer(16Â*yearsÂ*old,Â*2Â*inter nalÂ*andÂ*2Â*usbÂ*harddisks) HowÂ*dareÂ*theyÂ*surviveÂ*forÂ*suchÂ*aÂ*"short"Â*t ime. Those computer you speak of were made a hell of a lot better than the no expense, el-cheap-o computers of today. You can still get good ones today too (my custom ones never die), but NOT FOR $400.00 I typically see mechanical drive start to fail but not bricked. I typically am able to recover data off them, usually with Fedora. I can only remember one bricking on me. But I have been doing this for 24 years, so that may have been others. I have seen external USB mechanical units fail, but if I tear out the drive, it is always good. It is the USB interface that has gone south. I have replaced a lot of flaky mechanical hard drives with both SSD and mechanical drives as well. Clonezilla with error recovery mode is your friend! Every "check my computer out" I do, I run gsmartcontrol on them to test drive health. |
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