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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 09:33:49 -0000, CoMmAnDoTrOn wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote: How hard can it be to run whatever the ad requests, and ONLY omit the actual display on the screen? Anything is easy for the person who will not do it himself or herself. I challenge Commander Kinsey to walk the talk and produce a *working* adblocker which gets around our powerful techniques at Leet Website Command. Our ads run a script *after* the actual display, to check whether the ad is actually displayed and tell the web server. We can tell when the actual display is omitted. We can tell when the ad is displayed but covered over. If you run whatever the ad requests, the server knows when there is an adblocker. If you don't run whatever the ad requests, the server knows from the silence. Adblockers cannot fake what our script tells the server. We change it every few hours, faster than adblockers can keep up. We change it by geographic location. No adblocker can afford to pay for the full-time army of workers needed to keep up with our constant changes. Bull****. Absolute utter bull****. There is no way you can tell if an ad is displayed on my monitor, or if a white box is displayed on my monitor. You'd need a camera in my house to do that. |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
"Shadow" wrote
| On the homesite there's a 2 year old request to add support | for Palemoon. Un-answered. | | https://github.com/gcrico/disable-style-button/issues/1 | I don't think I've ever got an extension for FF that didn't install in PM/NM. Though many of them seem to be faulty. Over they ears there seems to be more funky behavior. There's the issue with unsigned extensions. Then there are extensions that don't seem to install by droppong them in the window. I have to go to add-ons and browse to them. Or sometimes I have to do that twice. I haven't noticed a pattern. Just general discord. | I managed to get it to install, it seems to un-crappify | Reddit, but I have no toggle button. I searched in the toolbar items. | Nada!! So I uninstalled. | Maybe one of my dozens of about:config edits is messing | something up. | PS I use the same browser you do. (Newmoon, now renamed back | to Palemoon - I never did understand why) | I have a stop sign icon on the toolbar. I think it just worked, but it's possible I had to add it from the customizing window. It works perfectly in NM and FF52.9. (2 or 3 others did not work and never showed an icon.) I don't use tabs, though I doubt that would affect the icon showing up. |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
On 2019-11-08 14:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 00:51:49 -0000, Carlos E. R. wrote: On 08/11/2019 01.30, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Thu, 07 Nov 2019 22:44:11 -0000, Carlos E. R. wrote: On 07/11/2019 21.47, Commander Kinsey wrote: Why can't someone write an adblocker that isn’t detectable?Â* Don't block the ad, simply download it but don't display it, the web server wouldn't know the difference! They can find out, because they don't see the results of the scripts they run with the adds. Like one cookie not appearing, or a download request at some URL with the same identifier that does not happen. How hard can it be to run whatever the ad requests, and ONLY omit the actual display on the screen? Well, they are associated and unwanted actions the adds do that is not displayed. I really prefer that nosy code not running, if possible. All very well, but if that breaks the page so you can't see what you wanted to see, then you have to turn the blocker off anyway! The the webpage is so badly set up that removing the scripts makes it unusable, I go to a different page. I do not turn off my script blocker. I do not turn off my ad blocker. |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
Try this one. I think this is where I got it:
https://legacycollector.org/firefox-...202/index.html It's v. .1.1 while the one from the site you got it was .1. Looking at the two, it appears they're the same thing but .1.1 also has files from 2016 added: mozilla.rsa, mozilla.sf, manifest.mf. Sorry for the confusion. I had asked about this, I think in the Win7 group. Someone pointed me to lecacycollector.org. I'd forgotten that was where I got the extension. Nice site. That was also where I got several alternatives that didn't work. |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
"Mayayana" wrote:
I think in the Win7 group. Someone pointed me to lecacycollector.org. I'd forgotten that was where I got the extension. Nice site. That was also where I got several alternatives that didn't work. Better get in quick. See the main page: https://legacycollector.org/ "This archive will be shut down in December 2019" |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
Commander Kinsey wrote:
Bull****. Absolute utter bull****. There is no way you can tell if an ad is displayed on my monitor, or if a white box is displayed on my monitor. You'd need a camera in my house to do that. Screenshots do not need a camera in your house. You are posting on a topic you know nothing about. (And we have other ways to tell if an ad is displayed.) |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 19:43:22 -0000, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-11-08 14:19, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 00:51:49 -0000, Carlos E. R. wrote: On 08/11/2019 01.30, Commander Kinsey wrote: On Thu, 07 Nov 2019 22:44:11 -0000, Carlos E. R. wrote: On 07/11/2019 21.47, Commander Kinsey wrote: Why can't someone write an adblocker that isn’t detectable? Don't block the ad, simply download it but don't display it, the web server wouldn't know the difference! They can find out, because they don't see the results of the scripts they run with the adds. Like one cookie not appearing, or a download request at some URL with the same identifier that does not happen. How hard can it be to run whatever the ad requests, and ONLY omit the actual display on the screen? Well, they are associated and unwanted actions the adds do that is not displayed. I really prefer that nosy code not running, if possible. All very well, but if that breaks the page so you can't see what you wanted to see, then you have to turn the blocker off anyway! The the webpage is so badly set up that removing the scripts makes it unusable, I go to a different page. I do not turn off my script blocker. |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 14:46:02 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote: Try this one. I think this is where I got it: https://legacycollector.org/firefox-...202/index.html It's v. .1.1 while the one from the site you got it was .1. Looking at the two, it appears they're the same thing but .1.1 also has files from 2016 added: mozilla.rsa, mozilla.sf, manifest.mf. Sorry for the confusion. I had asked about this, I think in the Win7 group. Someone pointed me to lecacycollector.org. I'd forgotten that was where I got the extension. Nice site. That was also where I got several alternatives that didn't work. I managed to install it, but again, no icon disable styles button was successfully installed Debug report: //Error: disablestylesbutton: An exception occurred. Error: Module `sdk/ui/button/toggle` is not found at resource://gre/modules/commonjs/sdk/ui/button/toggle.js// That's the start of a 4000 byte report ... most of which complained about sdk and missing .js resources. I'll just go back to using the menu -- view option. Thanks for the site link. I bookmarked it. []'s UPDATE - Installed perfectly on my portable Palemoon, and I get the icon in the top left hand corner. Some setting I toggled in my default Palemoon ..... I'll probably never figure out which one. TY -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
On 08.11.19 21:44, Apd wrote:
"Mayayana" wrote: I think in the Win7 group. Someone pointed me to lecacycollector.org. I'd forgotten that was where I got the extension. Nice site. That was also where I got several alternatives that didn't work. Better get in quick. See the main page: https://legacycollector.org/ "This archive will be shut down in December 2019" Thanks. Got a few fireftp xpi `s. |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:25:27 +0100, Sjouke Burry
wrote: On 08.11.19 21:44, Apd wrote: "Mayayana" wrote: I think in the Win7 group. Someone pointed me to lecacycollector.org. I'd forgotten that was where I got the extension. Nice site. That was also where I got several alternatives that didn't work. Better get in quick. See the main page: https://legacycollector.org/ "This archive will be shut down in December 2019" Thanks. Got a few fireftp xpi `s. //Most importantly I've received several threats to my person for running legacycollector.org - not the kind of thing I signed up for. But hey, Internet, if that is how you want to play ball, I'm out. Considering this, I've decided to stop providing this free archive and void my plans. This archive will be shut down in December 2019. Merry Christmas. For those wanting to mirror this site, please use the following torrent magnet link in favor of scraping the website. I won't be able to seed this torrent for long, so please seed for others if you grab this.// magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2332zbsojxkxt36szehrjnck5nn4px f4&dn=legacycollector.org.tar.xz []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
On 08.11.19 22:15, CoMmAnDoTrOn wrote:
wrote: Ads which interfere with browser functionality are bad. Ads which obscure web page are bad. Ads with video and/or audio are bad. In other words, ads are bad. If you are doing this to support your family, I suggest you change the focus of your work. If you believe the ads are bad, you should not visit the web site. You have no rights to the web site content without the ads. cut Pardon me, but I dont remember signing a contract with any website (not counting my provider website(s)). What law are you quoting? |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
In article op.0aya8mxdwdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote: I don't want to have to set preferences for every page. I just want to browse the internet and not see ads. How can it be that hard to write something to just hide them? it's not that it's hard, it's that the ad companies figure out ways around whatever the ad blockers do. |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
In article op.0aybc6u3wdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote: How hard can it be to run whatever the ad requests, and ONLY omit the actual display on the screen? Anything is easy for the person who will not do it himself or herself. I challenge Commander Kinsey to walk the talk and produce a *working* adblocker which gets around our powerful techniques at Leet Website Command. Our ads run a script *after* the actual display, to check whether the ad is actually displayed and tell the web server. We can tell when the actual display is omitted. We can tell when the ad is displayed but covered over. If you run whatever the ad requests, the server knows when there is an adblocker. If you don't run whatever the ad requests, the server knows from the silence. Adblockers cannot fake what our script tells the server. We change it every few hours, faster than adblockers can keep up. We change it by geographic location. No adblocker can afford to pay for the full-time army of workers needed to keep up with our constant changes. Bull****. Absolute utter bull****. unfortunately, it's not bull****. There is no way you can tell if an ad is displayed on my monitor, or if a white box is displayed on my monitor. You'd need a camera in my house to do that. there is no need for a camera and it's not that difficult either. |
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Why can't we have an undetectable adblocker?
On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:20:57 -0000, CoMmAnDoTrOn wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote: Bull****. Absolute utter bull****. There is no way you can tell if an ad is displayed on my monitor, or if a white box is displayed on my monitor. You'd need a camera in my house to do that. Screenshots do not need a camera in your house. You are posting on a topic you know nothing about. (And we have other ways to tell if an ad is displayed.) Taking a screenshot of someone's computer is hacking into it and highly illegal. And you can't do it without installing a virus. And you simply can't tell if it's displayed. If the browser downloads it from you, you can't tell whether those pixels end up on my screen or in the bin where they belong. And if you're an ad creator, you're a ****. Nobody likes you, nobody wants your product, so **** off and die. |
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