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Can a .m4a audio file be converted into a .mp3 one losslessly?



 
 
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Old April 5th 19, 01:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On 04 Apr 2019, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

FLAC natively supports information tags that can be read by any
player that plays FLACS


That sounds rather obvious (-:


Not necessarily so obvious. In my experience, most destructive audio
editors will discard or corrupt FLAC metadata when resaving, so it's
better to work on uncompressed files. Plus the speed-of-opening factor.

Remember one of the 'groups this thread is going to is the XP one,
and the other is the 7 one!


I've been using FLAC files extensively for many years, mostly on my old
XP machine. It's never been an issue for me.

WAV for editing.
FLAC for archiving.
MP3 for portable players and non-critical listening.
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Old April 5th 19, 02:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On 02 Apr 2019, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

Since the editor I use doesn't accept .m4a, I use Pazera's
"extract to WAV" function, and proceed from there.


You might want to look at the free Audacity editor, which can open and
save M4A format. It's not my daily audio editor (Adobe Audition is),
but it's got a good feature set, is in active development, an active
support base, and you can't beat the price.
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Old April 5th 19, 02:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Nil wrote:
On 04 Apr 2019, "Bill in Co" [email protected] wrote in
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I simply meant there are some audio utilities or audio players
that won't recognize it (along with some other formats too), like
some portable mp3 players, for example. And since it only reduces
the file size by half, for both reasons I don't see much use for
it, but that's just my own take on it.
:-). For me, mp3's are the saving grace, with their concurrent
10:1 or

better reduction in file size, whilst yet negligible sound loss.
:-)


Unless it's quite old I can't think of a computer audio utility that
can't handle FLAC. Even most hardware players newer than about 10 years
should be able to play them... unless they are named Apple.

I use MP3s for portable players. I use FLAC for archiving.


Well, I do use a lot of old software, so that may be it. 10 years seems
like yesterday to me. :-)


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Old April 5th 19, 12:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Can a .m4a audio file be converted into a .mp3 one losslessly?

In message , Nil
writes:
On 02 Apr 2019, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

Since the editor I use doesn't accept .m4a, I use Pazera's
"extract to WAV" function, and proceed from there.


You might want to look at the free Audacity editor, which can open and
save M4A format. It's not my daily audio editor (Adobe Audition is),
but it's got a good feature set, is in active development, an active
support base, and you can't beat the price.


Audacity does seem to be the default for free audio editing. I really
must look at it sometime!
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Old April 5th 19, 06:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Can a .m4a audio file be converted into a .mp3 one losslessly?

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Nil
writes:
On 02 Apr 2019, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

Since the editor I use doesn't accept .m4a, I use Pazera's
"extract to WAV" function, and proceed from there.


You might want to look at the free Audacity editor, which can open and
save M4A format. It's not my daily audio editor (Adobe Audition is),
but it's got a good feature set, is in active development, an active
support base, and you can't beat the price.


Audacity does seem to be the default for free audio editing. I really
must look at it sometime!


You are correct. It is the default free audio editor. It's definitely not
as polished as the commercial ones, however. And check out Acon Acoustica
(from German, I believe) while you're at it, which is pretty inexpensive. A
bit better for audio restoration than Goldwave, and about the same price:

https://acondigital.com/products/aco...-audio-editor/


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Old April 5th 19, 08:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Can a .m4a audio file be converted into a .mp3 one losslessly?

On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 12:05:22 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Nil
writes:
On 02 Apr 2019, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

Since the editor I use doesn't accept .m4a, I use Pazera's
"extract to WAV" function, and proceed from there.


You might want to look at the free Audacity editor, which can open and
save M4A format. It's not my daily audio editor (Adobe Audition is),
but it's got a good feature set, is in active development, an active
support base, and you can't beat the price.


Audacity does seem to be the default for free audio editing. I really
must look at it sometime!


I have it but I never really used it. I like Sound Forge. I used 4.5
for years and when there was a promo on 10 for $40 or so I bought it.
  #38  
Old April 6th 19, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Can a .m4a audio file be converted into a .mp3 one losslessly?

On 04 Apr 2019, "Bill in Co" [email protected] wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Nil wrote:

Unless it's quite old I can't think of a computer audio utility
that can't handle FLAC. Even most hardware players newer than
about 10 years should be able to play them... unless they are
named Apple.


Well, I do use a lot of old software, so that may be it. 10 years
seems like yesterday to me. :-)


What do you use that can't handle FLACs? Even the ancient and venerable
Winamp had no trouble with them.
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Old April 6th 19, 07:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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Default Can a .m4a audio file be converted into a .mp3 one losslessly?

Nil wrote:
On 04 Apr 2019, "Bill in Co" [email protected] wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Nil wrote:

Unless it's quite old I can't think of a computer audio utility
that can't handle FLAC. Even most hardware players newer than
about 10 years should be able to play them... unless they are
named Apple.


Well, I do use a lot of old software, so that may be it. 10 years
seems like yesterday to me. :-)


What do you use that can't handle FLACs? Even the ancient and venerable
Winamp had no trouble with them.


To be honest, I haven't gone through the list, so it may have been somewhat
assumatory on my part, except for some simple dedicated portable mp3 players
like the one I carry with me on my walks. That said, I don't see much use
for it, since it only provides a 50% reduction in file size.

Well, wait a minute. I just checked Sound Forge 7, and it's not listed in
the file formats. According to Wiki, FLAC didn't even exist until year
2000. So FLAC is a relatively recent development. I have several audio
utilities that are older than 2000, however.


 




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