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Have Gmail turned off POP3 login?
Recently I found Thunderbird cannot fetch Gmail by POP3. It shows
"incorrect username and password" (not the usual "login by web first" info) while I can login by web. I heard Google will eventually turn it off but is it now? Could anyone confirm this? -- Regards, Lu Wei IM: PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA |
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Have Gmail turned off POP3 login?
Lu Wei wrote:
Recently I found Thunderbird cannot fetch Gmail by POP3. It shows "incorrect username and password" (not the usual "login by web first" info) while I can login by web. I heard Google will eventually turn it off but is it now? Could anyone confirm this? Did you go into your online Gmail account's settings to make sure POP access was [still] enabled? Settings - Forwarding and POP/IMAP, POP download, enable POP for all mail. |
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Have Gmail turned off POP3 login?
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 23:27:03 +0800, Lu Wei wrote:
Have Gmail turned off POP3 login? Recently I found Thunderbird cannot fetch Gmail by POP3. It shows "incorrect username and password" (not the usual "login by web first" info) while I can login by web. I heard Google will eventually turn it off but is it now? Could anyone confirm this? Gmail POP3 login is still working here. Gmail may have turned off your "Less secure app access", which would disallow Thunderbird logging in with your main Google account password. If you can, use an "App Password" with POP3 instead of your main Google account password. Then you will not have problems when Gmail turns off your "Less secure app access". You need to turn on "2-step verification" before you can create an "App Password", but you can turn it off again afterwards. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 -- Kind regards Ralph |
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Have Gmail turned off POP3 login?
Ralph Fox wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 23:27:03 +0800, Lu Wei wrote: Have Gmail turned off POP3 login? Recently I found Thunderbird cannot fetch Gmail by POP3. It shows "incorrect username and password" (not the usual "login by web first" info) while I can login by web. I heard Google will eventually turn it off but is it now? Could anyone confirm this? Gmail POP3 login is still working here. Gmail may have turned off your "Less secure app access", which would disallow Thunderbird logging in with your main Google account password. If you can, use an "App Password" with POP3 instead of your main Google account password. Then you will not have problems when Gmail turns off your "Less secure app access". You need to turn on "2-step verification" before you can create an "App Password", but you can turn it off again afterwards. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 Thunderbird support OAUTH2 authentication. I remember reading you had to go into the account's server config to enable OAUTH2 logins. As for turning off "Less secure app access", I've read Google is doing that for their paid business-class G Suite service, not for their personal-use free services. From G Suite admin help: https://support.google.com/a/answer/6260879?hl=en Well, they're doing it to paid users. They'll probably eventually get around to ****ing over freeloaders, too. |
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Have Gmail turned off POP3 login?
This is for my MP3 player and I don't usually screw with a mouse on
that machine. It is all keypad driven (or using my Seeburg 3W1 wallbox). This is running dual console so stepping on the MP3 screen is not a problem. I will look for a clock app. |
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Have Gmail turned off POP3 login?
On 2020-4-12 5:51, VanguardLH wrote:
Ralph Fox wrote: Gmail POP3 login is still working here. Gmail may have turned off your "Less secure app access", which would disallow Thunderbird logging in with your main Google account password. If you can, use an "App Password" with POP3 instead of your main Google account password. Then you will not have problems when Gmail turns off your "Less secure app access". You need to turn on "2-step verification" before you can create an "App Password", but you can turn it off again afterwards. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833 https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 Thunderbird support OAUTH2 authentication. I remember reading you had to go into the account's server config to enable OAUTH2 logins. As for turning off "Less secure app access", I've read Google is doing that for their paid business-class G Suite service, not for their personal-use free services. From G Suite admin help: https://support.google.com/a/answer/6260879?hl=en Well, they're doing it to paid users. They'll probably eventually get around to ****ing over freeloaders, too. Thanks for the confirmation and suggestions. I checked POP3 and "Less secure app access" settings: POP3 is enabled as before, but "Less secure app access" is turned off. I never encountered that Google will turn it off for me! It labeled two security events that I access from other countries, maybe that's the cause. But I have to use proxy to access Google from china. Anyway I turned it on and TB begins to fetch mail again, though seems from a much older time. As to "App Password", it needs me to turn on "2-step verification". After I read https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185839 , that makes me feel it is a unnecessary complicated process and provide no more security, if not less. It needs a phone -- phones are known to be insecure, especially chinese phones. So I'd rather not enable it as long as I can still use current method. As to OAUTH2, Thunderbird does support it but not in POP3, only IMAP. Maybe I should switch to IMAP someday. For now I do not see much advantage of it for I only use Gmail on PC. -- Regards, Lu Wei IM: PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA |
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Have Gmail turned off POP3 login?
Lu Wei wrote:
I checked POP3 and "Less secure app access" settings: POP3 is enabled as before, but "Less secure app access" is turned off. I never encountered that Google will turn it off for me! I have. I don't know what Google was doing with my account, or maybe all accounts, but I and others have found the LSA option got disabled, so we had to go back in using a web browser to reenable the server-side setting. Is your e-mail client configured to use OAUTH2 during the login to Gmail? As to "App Password", it needs me to turn on "2-step verification". You need to enable 2-step to get app passwords, but after getting them you can go back and disable 2-step. It only needs to be enabled when you want to create the app password(s). It is not required after you create them, and won't be creating more for awhile. App passwords don't expire, so you won't have to reenable 2-step unless you later want to create more app passwords. As to OAUTH2, Thunderbird does support it but not in POP3, only IMAP. Maybe I should switch to IMAP someday. For now I do not see much advantage of it for I only use Gmail on PC. Oh, fartsniffing Google. No OAUTH2 for POP. IMAP is better, anyway. I could go into its advantages, but some folks just don't want to leave POP. To stick with POP with Gmail, you'll have to get an app password for your e-mail client. |
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This is for my MP3 player and I don't usually screw with a mouse on that machine. It is all keypad driven (or using my Seeburg 3W1 wallbox). This is running dual console so stepping on the MP3 screen is not a problem. I will look for a clock app. Huh? Looks like you were reading one post but your NNTP client currently had a different post selected when you clicked Reply. However, your reply didn't cite any of the parent post. If it had, you would've noticed the thread had nothing to do with MP3 or players. Since you mentioned clock, my guess is you meant to reply to your "Gadgets?" thread over in the Windows 7 newsgroup. |
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Have Gmail turned off POP3 login?
On 2020-4-12 20:55, VanguardLH wrote:
... Thank you and Ralph Fox. For now re-enabling "less secure app" through web seems a quicker solution. -- Regards, Lu Wei IM: PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA |
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