How to watch a far-away wedding without socializing with airpolane passengers

I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe. The
plane is flying but apparently there will be other passengers on the
plane, not just her.

She's had Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, in 2002
Kidney Transplant, 5 or 6 years ago.
Breast cancer, 9 months ago
Shingles, probably, a few weeks ago. She couldn't get the
vaccine because of the treatment for one of the first two.

She's about 72 and I think she still goes to work too.


So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA? On a big screen. (They have one 14" tv.)

Easy seems to be to have someone with a smartphone video it, send it to
their smartphone via whatsapp, skype, or they even have a long distance
service that charges about 3 cents a minute.

Then, I'd like to get the cell phone image onto their computer screen.
How do you do that?

So she and her hsuband and maybe others won't have to all stare at one
phone? OTOH, with whatspap, could each family stay home and use a
different smart phone? And a tv too?


Or, is there a way to stream this from the internet, maybe still
starting from a smartphone but connecting to the net first? (IIUC
youtube won't let you stream live until you've put 10, maybe more,
videos on their site. And these people have done none of that.)

Is there a better newsgroup for this?

On 07/06/2020 20.44, micky wrote:


Easy seems to be to have someone with a smartphone video it, send it to
their smartphone via whatsapp, skype, or they even have a long distance
service that charges about 3 cents a minute.

Then, I'd like to get the cell phone image onto their computer screen.
How do you do that?

On whatsapp, you just visit https://web.whatsapp.com/ on the computer,
and follow the instructions. Basically navigate to certain menu and take
a photo of the screen with the phone, which will then automatically
display whatsapp from your phone.

Then you can see recorded videos. Not live.

Surely there will be other applications to do video conferencing live
with a computer on both sides. And some with a phone on one end and a
computer on another. Possibly with a smarttv too. I have not tried recently.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

micky wrote:
I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe. The
plane is flying but apparently there will be other passengers on the
plane, not just her.

She's had Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, in 2002
Kidney Transplant, 5 or 6 years ago.
Breast cancer, 9 months ago
Shingles, probably, a few weeks ago. She couldn't get the
vaccine because of the treatment for one of the first two.

She's about 72 and I think she still goes to work too.


So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA? On a big screen. (They have one 14" tv.)

Easy seems to be to have someone with a smartphone video it, send it to
their smartphone via whatsapp, skype, or they even have a long distance
service that charges about 3 cents a minute.

Then, I'd like to get the cell phone image onto their computer screen.
How do you do that?

So she and her hsuband and maybe others won't have to all stare at one
phone? OTOH, with whatspap, could each family stay home and use a
different smart phone? And a tv too?


Or, is there a way to stream this from the internet, maybe still
starting from a smartphone but connecting to the net first? (IIUC
youtube won't let you stream live until you've put 10, maybe more,
videos on their site. And these people have done none of that.)

Is there a better newsgroup for this?

Skype.
We use it for live video conferencing.
I don't see much difference between a live wedding and
a live conf with a bunch of people giving presentations.

micky wrote:
I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe. The
plane is flying but apparently there will be other passengers on the
plane, not just her.

She's had Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, in 2002
Kidney Transplant, 5 or 6 years ago.
Breast cancer, 9 months ago
Shingles, probably, a few weeks ago. She couldn't get the
vaccine because of the treatment for one of the first two.

She's about 72 and I think she still goes to work too.


So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA? On a big screen. (They have one 14" tv.)

Easy seems to be to have someone with a smartphone video it, send it to
their smartphone via whatsapp, skype, or they even have a long distance
service that charges about 3 cents a minute.

Then, I'd like to get the cell phone image onto their computer screen.
How do you do that?

So she and her hsuband and maybe others won't have to all stare at one
phone? OTOH, with whatspap, could each family stay home and use a
different smart phone? And a tv too?


Or, is there a way to stream this from the internet, maybe still
starting from a smartphone but connecting to the net first? (IIUC
youtube won't let you stream live until you've put 10, maybe more,
videos on their site. And these people have done none of that.)

Is there a better newsgroup for this?

Use a professional videographer.

Ask to look at samples of their work.

They don't have to be "that professional" - in your community will
be amateurs, and they work weddings, and they've learned their
craft the hard way, by making mistakes.

That's why you want to look at samples of their work.

You can worry about distribution later.

Nobody wants to see phone video shot without a
tripod, bobbing and weaving around while you're
trying to hear "I do" through some phone microphone.

The old fashioned way of miking, would require at
least four microphones, perhaps using white space
RF channels in your city for transmission to the
mixing console.

A newer way of miking things, is the array microphone.
I doubt this would do a good job of a wedding (the echo
in a church is a significant impediment that the maths
might not sort out completely). This is just to illustrate
that they keep working on it. This device allows
"synthesizing" a virtual microphone after the event is over.

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/zylia-zm-1

If you are going to use phones, see if you can rent
some tripods that have an elastic band holder on top
for a landscape phone. Anyone who wants to film the
wedding for you, give then a tripod. The phones will
run out of battery before the event is over, and you
know how easy it is to change a phone battery (you can't).
At least my cheap digital camera, I can change the battery
in about 45 seconds. Of course, the microphone on my
digital camera is totally useless, so my wedding
contribution will be "half a video", just the video part.
My digital camera doesn't have a microphone input connector.

Having sound for your event, is why you need a
professional.

Paul

On 07/06/2020 19:44, Stupid Micky Mouse wrote:
I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe. The
plane is flying but apparently there will be other passengers on the
plane, not just her.

She's had Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, in 2002
Kidney Transplant, 5 or 6 years ago.
Breast cancer, 9 months ago
Shingles, probably, a few weeks ago. She couldn't get the
vaccine because of the treatment for one of the first two.

She's about 72 and I think she still goes to work too.


So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA?


The easiest way is for her to go to the wedding as it won't make any
difference to her health with all those problems already in her body!!!

Just send her away with one way ticket and hope for the best. Give her a
camera or camcorder so that if she comes back intact, there is something
for you to watch it on your computer.





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With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

On 6/7/20 2:44 PM, this is what micky wrote:
I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe. The
plane is flying but apparently there will be other passengers on the
plane, not just her.

She's had Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, in 2002
Kidney Transplant, 5 or 6 years ago.
Breast cancer, 9 months ago
Shingles, probably, a few weeks ago. She couldn't get the
vaccine because of the treatment for one of the first two.

She's about 72 and I think she still goes to work too.


So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA? On a big screen. (They have one 14" tv.)

Easy seems to be to have someone with a smartphone video it, send it to
their smartphone via whatsapp, skype, or they even have a long distance
service that charges about 3 cents a minute.

Then, I'd like to get the cell phone image onto their computer screen.
How do you do that?

So she and her hsuband and maybe others won't have to all stare at one
phone? OTOH, with whatspap, could each family stay home and use a
different smart phone? And a tv too?


Or, is there a way to stream this from the internet, maybe still
starting from a smartphone but connecting to the net first? (IIUC
youtube won't let you stream live until you've put 10, maybe more,
videos on their site. And these people have done none of that.)

Is there a better newsgroup for this?

Our family is using Zoom. It works well.
One person at the wedding could use their cell phone, and at home you use a computer. Only the person with the phone needs an account to
start the video conf., the person at home just joins, no login.

One of those battery banks you charge, it has a usb port so you can plug your phone it to recharge from it, would work well to give you more
time. The higher the milliamp hours the more charge it will have for the phone.

Al

On 6/7/2020 5:59 PM, Paul wrote:
micky wrote:
I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe.Â* The
plane is flying but apparently there will be other passengers on the
plane,Â* not just her.
She's had Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, in 2002
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Kidney Transplant, 5 or 6 years ago. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Breast
cancer, 9 months ago
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Shingles, probably, a few weeks ago.Â* She couldn't get the
vaccine because of the treatment for one of the first two.
She's about 72 and I think she still goes to work too.


So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA?Â* On a big screen.Â* (They have one 14" tv.)
Easy seems to be to have someone with a smartphone video it, send it to
their smartphone via whatsapp, skype, or they even have a long distance
service that charges about 3 cents a minute.
Then, I'd like to get the cell phone image onto their computer screen.
How do you do that?
So she and her hsuband and maybe others won't have to all stare at one
phone?Â* OTOH, with whatspap, could each family stay home and use a
different smart phone?Â*Â* And a tv too?

Or, is there a way to stream this from the internet, maybe still
starting from a smartphone but connecting to the net first?Â* (IIUC
youtube won't let you stream live until you've put 10, maybe more,
videos on their site.Â* And these people have done none of that.)
Is there a better newsgroup for this?

Use a professional videographer.

Ask to look at samples of their work.

They don't have to be "that professional" - in your community will
be amateurs, and they work weddings, and they've learned their
craft the hard way, by making mistakes.

That's why you want to look at samples of their work.

You can worry about distribution later.

Nobody wants to see phone video shot without a
tripod, bobbing and weaving around while you're
trying to hear "I do" through some phone microphone.

The old fashioned way of miking, would require at
least four microphones, perhaps using white space
RF channels in your city for transmission to the
mixing console.

A newer way of miking things, is the array microphone.
I doubt this would do a good job of a wedding (the echo
in a church is a significant impediment that the maths
might not sort out completely). This is just to illustrate
that they keep working on it. This device allows
"synthesizing" a virtual microphone after the event is over.

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/zylia-zm-1

If you are going to use phones, see if you can rent
some tripods that have an elastic band holder on top
for a landscape phone. Anyone who wants to film the
wedding for you, give then a tripod. The phones will
run out of battery before the event is over, and you
know how easy it is to change a phone battery (you can't).
At least my cheap digital camera, I can change the battery
in about 45 seconds. Of course, the microphone on my
digital camera is totally useless, so my wedding
contribution will be "half a video", just the video part.
My digital camera doesn't have a microphone input connector.

Having sound for your event, is why you need a
professional.

Â*Â* Paul
I've been involved with live streaming my church service since the
lockdown. We have been using Facebook live streaming. It's been a
little iffy on Sunday mornings as I think the Facebook servers are being
glutted with people streaming church. I've also done a lot of video
work for a fairly large community access tv station. I always told new
volunteers that audio was the hardest part of the production. Back to
church. I connected an output from the church PA system to a Behringer
UCA222 audio interface. It converts analog audio to digital USB. To
connect to a phone, you need the appropriate adapter. For Sunday church
we use a Samsung S10 phone which has a USB type C connector. So we have
a USB-C male to standard USB female. It works great. As there are no
volume meters, you have to experiment a bit with levels, but in my case
it was just plug and play. The UCA222 seems to have lots of headroom.
Now we are holding our services outside with a portable sound system.
It works just as good. BTW, a week ago we did a wedding inside the
church. The groom had an iphone. He bought an iphone "lightning to
USB" adapter. It also worked well. I did, however, add a microphone to
the church PA system to put in front of the bride and groom, to pick up
their vows. Being a wedding is usually outside the normal church
service times, the aforementioned problems will probably not happen.
Also, you have to consider the phone's connection. In my case we use
the church's wifi which is provided by a dedicated fiber to our
building. Streaming over cellular might be more of a challenge. I know
of a Comcast group that streams live local sports over cellular. They
actually use 2 streams and pick most reliable one at the receiving end
before sending it out over their cable system.

I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe.

So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA?Â* On a big screen.Â* (They have one 14" tv.)

Talky.io works only from a web browser so there's nothing for either
side to install. Just send others the invite URL.

Jitsi Meet is similar to Zoom but without the privacy concerns since
it's open source.

* PC uses browser - https://meet.jit.si
* Android/iOS smartphones use app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...org.jitsi.meet
* video conference calls
* chat
* creates invite URL
* up to 75 participants
* anonymous login (no registration)
* open source

Wedding planner starts the call via computer or smartphone by sending
invite URL to remote participants, who join on their browser or smartphone.

Requires a TV with an Internet browser,
or requires a TV with HDMI input from computer or phone,
or requires a TV casting device like Chromecast or Android TV.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:48:11 -0500, kelown
wrote:


I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe.

So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA?* On a big screen.* (They have one 14" tv.)

Talky.io works only from a web browser so there's nothing for either
side to install. Just send others the invite URL.

Jitsi Meet is similar to Zoom but without the privacy concerns since
it's open source.

* PC uses browser - https://meet.jit.si
* Android/iOS smartphones use app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...org.jitsi.meet
* video conference calls
* chat
* creates invite URL
* up to 75 participants
* anonymous login (no registration)
* open source

Wedding planner starts the call via computer or smartphone by sending
invite URL to remote participants, who join on their browser or smartphone.

Requires a TV with an Internet browser,
or requires a TV with HDMI input from computer or phone,
or requires a TV casting device like Chromecast or Android TV.

Or they could just use the computer monitor, right?


Because of the choices, I"m going to email this one to her and then put
the others together and send them too, though unless I have questions, I
won't post a copy here. (They have other suggerstions like Zoom,
Whatsapp, Skype (When I was there and another friend called me 4 or 5
nights a week, my impression was that whatsapp had more dropped calls
than Skype. It was worth $1.50 an hour to use Skype), Facebook,
www.soundonsound.com

And the remindeer to have a portable recharger, so the phone won't go
dead after an hour or two is very important. Just a thing you charge up
and then use it to charge the phone while using it. It only has one wire
coming out of it, to the phone. I plan to send you some ads


Maybe she can find the most techy grandchild, maybe a cousin of the
groom, to do the shooting and see what he might already know about or
finds easy to use.

Then they should definitely have a test session a couple weeks in
advance. They don't have to have a test wedding. He can sit in his
chair and take video of the bookshelves and see if my friend and her
husband can watch. I'm pretty sure the first test and maybe the next 2
will fail, but the corrections should be clear.

As to audio, if it's really loud enough to hear easily where the
camera/phone "man" is standing, I think it will be loud enough all
along the route, but I've often barely been able to hear, even if I'm
fairly close. Maybe one of the principals could wear a little
mike/transmitter and the camera guy a speaker (if it can't plug into the
USB jack.). Or maybe sound doesn't matter that much???

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 8 Jun 2020 07:59:46 -0400, Todesco
wrote:


I've been involved with live streaming my church service since the
lockdown. We have been using Facebook live streaming. It's been a

Is it hard to sign up for Facebook live streaming? (IIRC, Youtube
won't let you do it unless you've uploaded 10 videos, maybe more.)


little iffy on Sunday mornings as I think the Facebook servers are being
glutted with people streaming church. I've also done a lot of video
work for a fairly large community access tv station. I always told new
volunteers that audio was the hardest part of the production. Back to
church. I connected an output from the church PA system to a Behringer
UCA222 audio interface. It converts analog audio to digital USB. To
connect to a phone, you need the appropriate adapter. For Sunday church
we use a Samsung S10 phone which has a USB type C connector. So we have
a USB-C male to standard USB female. It works great. As there are no
volume meters, you have to experiment a bit with levels, but in my case
it was just plug and play. The UCA222 seems to have lots of headroom.

Great suggestions but there's no way my friend's 15-yeaer old grandson
will do all this. Can they still use Facebook with just the phone?

Can you just use a USB mike that the photograph has that's better than
the phone's mike?

Now we are holding our services outside with a portable sound system.
It works just as good. BTW, a week ago we did a wedding inside the
church. The groom had an iphone. He bought an iphone "lightning to
USB" adapter. It also worked well. I did, however, add a microphone to
the church PA system to put in front of the bride and groom, to pick up
their vows. Being a wedding is usually outside the normal church
service times, the aforementioned problems will probably not happen.
Also, you have to consider the phone's connection. In my case we use
the church's wifi which is provided by a dedicated fiber to our
building. Streaming over cellular might be more of a challenge. I know
of a Comcast group that streams live local sports over cellular. They
actually use 2 streams and pick most reliable one at the receiving end
before sending it out over their cable system.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:48:11 -0500, kelown
wrote:


I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe.

So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA?* On a big screen.* (They have one 14" tv.)

Talky.io works only from a web browser so there's nothing for either
side to install. Just send others the invite URL.

Jitsi Meet is similar to Zoom but without the privacy concerns since
it's open source.

* PC uses browser - https://meet.jit.si
* Android/iOS smartphones use app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...org.jitsi.meet
* video conference calls
* chat
* creates invite URL
* up to 75 participants
* anonymous login (no registration)
* open source

Wedding planner starts the call via computer or smartphone by sending
invite URL to remote participants, who join on their browser or smartphone.

Requires a TV with an Internet browser,
or requires a TV with HDMI input from computer or phone,
or requires a TV casting device like Chromecast or Android TV.

They don't have anything like this, but they can just use a computer
with internet and a decent sized monitor, surely?

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:48:11 -0500, kelown
wrote:

I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe.
So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA? On a big screen. (They have one 14" tv.)
Talky.io works only from a web browser so there's nothing for either
side to install. Just send others the invite URL.

Jitsi Meet is similar to Zoom but without the privacy concerns since
it's open source.

* PC uses browser - https://meet.jit.si
* Android/iOS smartphones use app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...org.jitsi.meet
* video conference calls
* chat
* creates invite URL
* up to 75 participants
* anonymous login (no registration)
* open source

Wedding planner starts the call via computer or smartphone by sending
invite URL to remote participants, who join on their browser or smartphone.

Requires a TV with an Internet browser,
or requires a TV with HDMI input from computer or phone,
or requires a TV casting device like Chromecast or Android TV.

They don't have anything like this, but they can just use a computer
with internet and a decent sized monitor, surely?

Won't there be DVDs of the wedding for others ?

Mailing people DVDs isn't the end of the story, as
some people still need technical support to play
a DVD. They also need help setting the clock on
their VCR.

The problem with streaming, is your audience may not
have the technical savvy to get all the settings right,
at the right point in time.

You could also put the video on your Dropbox account,
if you could figure out how to make it public :-)

During a wedding, there is a lot going on. You don't
really want to be "futzing" with tech the live-long day.
Videoing the wedding, using more than one person with
a camera. Having a second camera if the first camera stops,
and so on, a bit of up-front planning, ensures that at
least a series of video files are captured. And then
a person with technical chops edits the wedding and
makes something out of it.

You could also investigate renting camcorders, if
you need to harness more of your "team" into doing
a good job of recording.

It will be less distracting for the lucky couple, if
you use fixed cameras for some of the shots. And only
have the occasional loon wandering around shooting closeups.

With your team, you'll also need to discuss obvious things
like "camera orientation". Nothing screws up your planning
more, than half the team holding the camera upright (portrait),
half the team with camera horizontal (landscape), then trying
to edit that mess into a consistent looking video.

Since weddings have "practices", so can videographers.
You could invite your team over to video the practice,
then discuss with the team how you screwed up, and improve
your skill set before the big day.

The danger with shooting with just one camera, is continuity.
You could, for example, run out of battery just as they're
about to say "I do", and then no matter whether you're
streaming or making DVDs, there's a "big hole" in the
content. Even if you have a separate audio recording device,
you can "fake it" with canned static shots, when your videographer
fails, and do a "slide show" of static pictures, with real
voice overlay.

There are probably web pages around, on how to shoot a wedding
video. And they might cover all the things that can go wrong
with your "team" or ensemble of equipment.

Paul

On 6/7/2020 2:44 PM, micky wrote:
I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe. The
plane is flying but apparently there will be other passengers on the
plane, not just her.

She's had Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, in 2002
Kidney Transplant, 5 or 6 years ago.
Breast cancer, 9 months ago
Shingles, probably, a few weeks ago. She couldn't get the
vaccine because of the treatment for one of the first two.

She's about 72 and I think she still goes to work too.


So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA? On a big screen. (They have one 14" tv.)

Easy seems to be to have someone with a smartphone video it, send it to
their smartphone via whatsapp, skype, or they even have a long distance
service that charges about 3 cents a minute.

Then, I'd like to get the cell phone image onto their computer screen.
How do you do that?

So she and her hsuband and maybe others won't have to all stare at one
phone? OTOH, with whatspap, could each family stay home and use a
different smart phone? And a tv too?


Or, is there a way to stream this from the internet, maybe still
starting from a smartphone but connecting to the net first? (IIUC
youtube won't let you stream live until you've put 10, maybe more,
videos on their site. And these people have done none of that.)

Is there a better newsgroup for this?

Zoom is easy to use and free if someone else arranges. Maybe a friend
can loan an iPad or laptop with Zoom installed?

If this is the only time she wants to use a device she could buy one
with a return if not satisfied agreement. Alternative is if timing is OK
and things have "opened up more" she could go to local library.

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 13 Jun 2020 21:09:56 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:48:11 -0500, kelown
wrote:

I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe.
So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA? On a big screen. (They have one 14" tv.)
Talky.io works only from a web browser so there's nothing for either
side to install. Just send others the invite URL.

Jitsi Meet is similar to Zoom but without the privacy concerns since
it's open source.

* PC uses browser - https://meet.jit.si
* Android/iOS smartphones use app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...org.jitsi.meet
* video conference calls
* chat
* creates invite URL
* up to 75 participants
* anonymous login (no registration)
* open source

Wedding planner starts the call via computer or smartphone by sending
invite URL to remote participants, who join on their browser or smartphone.

Requires a TV with an Internet browser,
or requires a TV with HDMI input from computer or phone,
or requires a TV casting device like Chromecast or Android TV.

They don't have anything like this, but they can just use a computer
with internet and a decent sized monitor, surely?

Won't there be DVDs of the wedding for others ?

I don't know if they do that, probably, but I think she would rather
have low-quality live than high quality DVD.

I've been to her kids' weddings and one grandkid's wedding, and even
when she's the mother of the groom and there are still and video
cameramen, she takes her own pictures, then 30 years ago takes them the
next day to the drugstore to get them back the same day or day after.
Plus she gets me to take pictures too.

Mailing people DVDs isn't the end of the story, as
some people still need technical support to play
a DVD. They also need help setting the clock on
their VCR.

The problem with streaming, is your audience may not
have the technical savvy to get all the settings right,
at the right point in time.

I told her to have a dry run a couple weeks in advance, with her
non-marrying grandson using the same phone he'd use wedding day.

You could also put the video on your Dropbox account,
if you could figure out how to make it public :-)

I looked at Dropbox again and to share, I seemed to have to email people
invitations or something. This tech stuff is beyond me. I guess I got
started with them when other people had files for me, but those files
seemed public.

During a wedding, there is a lot going on. You don't
really want to be "futzing" with tech the live-long day.
Videoing the wedding, using more than one person with
a camera. Having a second camera if the first camera stops,
and so on, a bit of up-front planning, ensures that at
least a series of video files are captured. And then
a person with technical chops edits the wedding and
makes something out of it.

They are probably going to do all that. It's not enough for her. She
was planning on flying in, even had reservations or tickets, but learned
she'd have to be quaranteened for two weeks in one room, one crummy room
just built for the quaranteen iiuc, and her 14 days would end 3 days
AFTER the wedding. Our phone connection was bad but I think she was
considering going to the wedding anyhow, but a) doesn't like to violate
the rules, b) certainly doens't want to make someone sick, c) doesn't
want to be with loads of other people in two airports and on the plane
for 8 hours, d) it's self quaranteen but iiuc they check up on whether
someone is keeping quaranteen. I have to ask her about this again. I'm
curious how they do that.

And look at my first post for all her medical problems. She got what
was probably shingles because she couldn't have the shingles vaccine
becuase of drugs she takes for the lymphpoma, or the transplant.

But despite all this, she bought the airplane ticket.

Apparently her treatment for the lymphoma never works for more than 7
years but she's starting her 19th year in September. She sets a new
record every day. She likes to say that she lost 15 pounds because of
the lymphoma and 10 pounds because of the kidney problems and she's down
to her college weight and hasn't put it back on. "so that's one good
thing that came from all this."

She was still working 2 years ago and after that wedding had to cut her
visit to her kids and grandkids short to go back home to work, even
though her husband didn't. This year no job (maybe because the virus
closed the summer camp she worked at) so I think she could have stayed
as long as she wanted.

You could also investigate renting camcorders, if
you need to harness more of your "team" into doing
a good job of recording.

It will be less distracting for the lucky couple, if

For the last grandson wedding, they had two photographers plus she was
taking picture and I was taking pictures. The couple is on their own.
;-)

FWIW I didn't go just for the wedding, was visiting nearby by
coincidence.

you use fixed cameras for some of the shots. And only
have the occasional loon wandering around shooting closeups.

With your team, you'll also need to discuss obvious things
like "camera orientation". Nothing screws up your planning
more, than half the team holding the camera upright (portrait),
half the team with camera horizontal (landscape), then trying
to edit that mess into a consistent looking video.

Since weddings have "practices", so can videographers.
You could invite your team over to video the practice,
then discuss with the team how you screwed up, and improve
your skill set before the big day.

The danger with shooting with just one camera, is continuity.
You could, for example, run out of battery just as they're

I wrote her about the battery backup.

about to say "I do", and then no matter whether you're
streaming or making DVDs, there's a "big hole" in the
content. Even if you have a separate audio recording device,
you can "fake it" with canned static shots, when your videographer
fails, and do a "slide show" of static pictures, with real
voice overlay.

All that is for the videographer. She just wants whatever she can get
live.

There are probably web pages around, on how to shoot a wedding
video.

Good idea, but I like ideas from you guys first and foremost.

And they might cover all the things that can go wrong
with your "team" or ensemble of equipment.

Paul

I have a friend whose grandson's wedding is coming up, in Europe.

So, what is the easiest or best way for her to watch the wedding from
her home in the USA?Â* On a big screen.Â* (They have one 14" tv.)

Talky.io works only from a web browser so there's nothing for either
side to install. Just send others the invite URL.

Jitsi Meet is similar to Zoom but without the privacy concerns since
it's open source.

* PC uses browser - https://meet.jit.si
* Android/iOS smartphones use app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...org.jitsi.meet
* video conference calls
* chat
* creates invite URL
* up to 75 participants
* anonymous login (no registration)
* open source

Wedding planner starts the call via computer or smartphone by sending
invite URL to remote participants, who join on their browser or smartphone.

Requires a TV with an Internet browser,
or requires a TV with HDMI input from computer or phone,
or requires a TV casting device like Chromecast or Android TV.

They don't have anything like this, but they can just use a computer
with internet and a decent sized monitor, surely?

Of course it can be used with just a computer, but your OP implied
viewing it on a TV screen.