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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
Tim Meddick wrote on 24-04-2009 :
Is your problem that you can't access the cd-rom from DOS? If so I will explain how, just give us the word. He did that yesterday. The "DOS-equipped" drive is meant to be moved to a system with no means of accessing external devices. I don't know if this means no network port either. If there is a PXE capable network port (and a 2003 server), I'd install from a RIS server. -- /klaus |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
Klaus,
I only know the limitations of my own knowledge, what you say is beyond me, unfortunately. The guy asked a question and wanted an answer to it, not other suggestions (he said). I haven't read 'every one' of the posts in this thread as most seem to be just bickering at one another, so didn't pick up on that fact. So anyway, I gave him the answer to the question he wanted answering. Sorry if it was too late, but then I'm sure lots of people are queuing up to tell you that I am quite slow. -- Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. "Klaus Jorgensen" wrote in message ... Tim Meddick wrote on 24-04-2009 : Is your problem that you can't access the cd-rom from DOS? If so I will explain how, just give us the word. He did that yesterday. The "DOS-equipped" drive is meant to be moved to a system with no means of accessing external devices. I don't know if this means no network port either. If there is a PXE capable network port (and a 2003 server), I'd install from a RIS server. -- /klaus |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
Klaus,
I only know the limitations of my own knowledge, what you say is beyond me, unfortunately. The guy asked a question and wanted an answer to it, not other suggestions (he said). I haven't read 'every one' of the posts in this thread as most seem to be just bickering at one another, so didn't pick up on that fact. So anyway, I gave him the answer to the question he wanted answering. Sorry if it was too late, but then I'm sure lots of people are queuing up to tell you that I am quite slow. -- Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. "Klaus Jorgensen" wrote in message ... Tim Meddick wrote on 24-04-2009 : Is your problem that you can't access the cd-rom from DOS? If so I will explain how, just give us the word. He did that yesterday. The "DOS-equipped" drive is meant to be moved to a system with no means of accessing external devices. I don't know if this means no network port either. If there is a PXE capable network port (and a 2003 server), I'd install from a RIS server. -- /klaus |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
Guy that is XP wrote:
.... If you'd wanted to have a serious exchange about this, with no abuse involved, I'd continue with this sub-thread. I'm still here, and I'm still waiting to see an answer posted. But as you can't seem to manage to do that, this is end of thread for me. This newsgroup is not alt.conversation.etiquette or alt.please.dont.offend.me. If you want to discuss the finer points of conversational or interpersonal etiquette, then I suggest you might find more satisfaction elsewhere. With the exception of your opinion on netiquette having nothing to do with all this, I pretty much agree with everything you said. But you're letting a few dummies make you lower yoruself to a trolish stance with your insistance on the last word or whatever you're thinking. No one on any group can cuase you to have negative feelings about anything unless you let them, and to let them do so is just plain silly. I'm surprised to see olorin(SP) allowing it too as IIRC he's usually above this kind of tripe. Carrying on such off-topic discussions with a shot-gun address list to groups that have nothing to do with your quest only places all participants onto all the post archives for all posterity to see and hate, on top of dilluting their content. Then to continue the diatribes without setting followups is sheer stupidity, actually. All you do is advertise your attitudes and lose credibilityfor you actions in more places than is necessary. Looks like I have a few more names to add to my don't bother with list as I'm sure others are also doing. f'ups set to first group that highlighted easily. You can see it' just look. |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
Guy that is XP wrote:
.... If you'd wanted to have a serious exchange about this, with no abuse involved, I'd continue with this sub-thread. I'm still here, and I'm still waiting to see an answer posted. But as you can't seem to manage to do that, this is end of thread for me. This newsgroup is not alt.conversation.etiquette or alt.please.dont.offend.me. If you want to discuss the finer points of conversational or interpersonal etiquette, then I suggest you might find more satisfaction elsewhere. With the exception of your opinion on netiquette having nothing to do with all this, I pretty much agree with everything you said. But you're letting a few dummies make you lower yoruself to a trolish stance with your insistance on the last word or whatever you're thinking. No one on any group can cuase you to have negative feelings about anything unless you let them, and to let them do so is just plain silly. I'm surprised to see olorin(SP) allowing it too as IIRC he's usually above this kind of tripe. Carrying on such off-topic discussions with a shot-gun address list to groups that have nothing to do with your quest only places all participants onto all the post archives for all posterity to see and hate, on top of dilluting their content. Then to continue the diatribes without setting followups is sheer stupidity, actually. All you do is advertise your attitudes and lose credibilityfor you actions in more places than is necessary. Looks like I have a few more names to add to my don't bother with list as I'm sure others are also doing. f'ups set to first group that highlighted easily. You can see it' just look. |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
Yeah, right, as you continue to spread this tripe to multiple groups.
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote: condescending hooplehead. "XP Guy" wrote in message ... Top Poaster and Full Quoter "David B." wrote: I would think that a person that goes by "XP Guy" would be able to figure this out on his own. At the very least he would know how to use a search engine. You obviously can't read. I said that from what I've found on the net, there are lots of people asking this question, and no real definative answers. Was there a reason why you also did not answer this question? Is there a reason why your contribution to this thread was nothing more than to take a lame shot at me? |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to ablank hard drive?
Yeah, right, as you continue to spread this tripe to multiple groups.
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote: condescending hooplehead. "XP Guy" wrote in message ... Top Poaster and Full Quoter "David B." wrote: I would think that a person that goes by "XP Guy" would be able to figure this out on his own. At the very least he would know how to use a search engine. You obviously can't read. I said that from what I've found on the net, there are lots of people asking this question, and no real definative answers. Was there a reason why you also did not answer this question? Is there a reason why your contribution to this thread was nothing more than to take a lame shot at me? |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
Shenan Stanley wrote:
XP Guy wrote: If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? Shenan Stanley wrote: Yes. Google could have told you that. ;-) XP Guy wrote: If that's true, I haven't found it yet. If you have, is there some reason you're not posting it? You didn't/haven't asked how. You asked is there a way/if it was possible. You seem (according to your own responses) just want to be given the answers to the questions you ask. I was/am obliging. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP And doing so in many newsgroups for no good reason. Why do you feel the need to comment on picqiune points? What are you obliging? You say "am" but ... fail to mention what it is. Why do you find it necessary to use so many newsgroups? Do you know the answer or not? If so, what is it? Are you for real? If so, how come? These questions all need to be answered before a good response can be coming your way. |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
Shenan Stanley wrote:
XP Guy wrote: If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? Shenan Stanley wrote: Yes. Google could have told you that. ;-) XP Guy wrote: If that's true, I haven't found it yet. If you have, is there some reason you're not posting it? You didn't/haven't asked how. You asked is there a way/if it was possible. You seem (according to your own responses) just want to be given the answers to the questions you ask. I was/am obliging. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP And doing so in many newsgroups for no good reason. Why do you feel the need to comment on picqiune points? What are you obliging? You say "am" but ... fail to mention what it is. Why do you find it necessary to use so many newsgroups? Do you know the answer or not? If so, what is it? Are you for real? If so, how come? These questions all need to be answered before a good response can be coming your way. |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank
Peter Foldes wrote:
Twayne Andrew is the resident idiot who always posts wrong info and a lot times dangerous ones at that "Twayne" wrote in message ... Andrew E. wrote: Actually youre trying to install xp as the "preffered method" instead of a windows explorer installation..You dont install the cd to the hd however,one simply installs xp cd,set the BIOS to boot to xp cdrom as 1st boot priority,hd 2nd (for installation),save & exit BIOS,boot to xp cd (DOS),select install xp, delete the partition,create one,then xp formats & installs auto.The copy cd to hd will only cause a malfunction,also,FAT32 is not a preffered file system,its outdated,use NTFS. Since he has a DOS boot partition, FAT32 is actually REQUIRED! Where have you been? "XP Guy" wrote: If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? Yeah, I've too much time on my hands the last few days so checked out the lunacy factor just for entertainment value. Fortunately that's about to come to an end. The extra time, I meang. Cheers, Twayne |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank
Peter Foldes wrote:
Twayne Andrew is the resident idiot who always posts wrong info and a lot times dangerous ones at that "Twayne" wrote in message ... Andrew E. wrote: Actually youre trying to install xp as the "preffered method" instead of a windows explorer installation..You dont install the cd to the hd however,one simply installs xp cd,set the BIOS to boot to xp cdrom as 1st boot priority,hd 2nd (for installation),save & exit BIOS,boot to xp cd (DOS),select install xp, delete the partition,create one,then xp formats & installs auto.The copy cd to hd will only cause a malfunction,also,FAT32 is not a preffered file system,its outdated,use NTFS. Since he has a DOS boot partition, FAT32 is actually REQUIRED! Where have you been? "XP Guy" wrote: If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? Yeah, I've too much time on my hands the last few days so checked out the lunacy factor just for entertainment value. Fortunately that's about to come to an end. The extra time, I meang. Cheers, Twayne |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? Shenan Stanley wrote: Yes. Google could have told you that. ;-) XP Guy wrote: If that's true, I haven't found it yet. If you have, is there some reason you're not posting it? Shenan Stanley wrote: You didn't/haven't asked how. You asked is there a way/if it was possible. You seem (according to your own responses) just want to be given the answers to the questions you ask. I was/am obliging. Twayne wrote: And doing so in many newsgroups for no good reason. Why do you feel the need to comment on picqiune points? What are you obliging? You say "am" but ... fail to mention what it is. Why do you find it necessary to use so many newsgroups? Do you know the answer or not? If so, what is it? Are you for real? If so, how come? These questions all need to be answered before a good response can be coming your way. - Why do you feel the need to comment on picqiune points? Given that 'picqiune" is not a word I know of - I might ask for clarification (I won't.) It could have been a typo/spelling mistake. I will infer it means 'little' in some way - if so - all points are valid discussion topics once they are presented. - What are you obliging? You say "am" but ... fail to mention what it is. The OP asked a question - I did not infer more than what was actually asked. I answered the direct questions. When the OP followed up, I answered the follow up. - Why do you find it necessary to use so many newsgroups? I replied to the newsgroups the OP cross-posted to. Nothing more, nothing less. As did you. - Do you know the answer or not? Assuming you mean to the expanded "how" question of the OPs - yes - and I gave said answer some time ago. - If so, what is it? Assuming this is in reference to the last question asked, I am not going to repeat it verbatim again in this reponse - but I will link to the entire conversation so that you might peruse over it at your leisure. http://groups.google.com/group/micro...409b97eb470a76 - Are you for real? Yes. - If so, how come? Assuming reference to the last question, answer would be sentience. I did not ask a question - so an answer will not be coming my way. Yes - you meant to inject sarcasm, I'll let you judge your success. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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OT Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
XP Guy wrote:
If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? Shenan Stanley wrote: Yes. Google could have told you that. ;-) XP Guy wrote: If that's true, I haven't found it yet. If you have, is there some reason you're not posting it? Shenan Stanley wrote: You didn't/haven't asked how. You asked is there a way/if it was possible. You seem (according to your own responses) just want to be given the answers to the questions you ask. I was/am obliging. Twayne wrote: And doing so in many newsgroups for no good reason. Why do you feel the need to comment on picqiune points? What are you obliging? You say "am" but ... fail to mention what it is. Why do you find it necessary to use so many newsgroups? Do you know the answer or not? If so, what is it? Are you for real? If so, how come? These questions all need to be answered before a good response can be coming your way. - Why do you feel the need to comment on picqiune points? Given that 'picqiune" is not a word I know of - I might ask for clarification (I won't.) It could have been a typo/spelling mistake. I will infer it means 'little' in some way - if so - all points are valid discussion topics once they are presented. - What are you obliging? You say "am" but ... fail to mention what it is. The OP asked a question - I did not infer more than what was actually asked. I answered the direct questions. When the OP followed up, I answered the follow up. - Why do you find it necessary to use so many newsgroups? I replied to the newsgroups the OP cross-posted to. Nothing more, nothing less. As did you. - Do you know the answer or not? Assuming you mean to the expanded "how" question of the OPs - yes - and I gave said answer some time ago. - If so, what is it? Assuming this is in reference to the last question asked, I am not going to repeat it verbatim again in this reponse - but I will link to the entire conversation so that you might peruse over it at your leisure. http://groups.google.com/group/micro...409b97eb470a76 - Are you for real? Yes. - If so, how come? Assuming reference to the last question, answer would be sentience. I did not ask a question - so an answer will not be coming my way. Yes - you meant to inject sarcasm, I'll let you judge your success. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
XP Guy laid this down on his screen :
If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? I was curios so I just tried it in a virtual pc using MS Virtual PC 2007. Booted an old Win98SE CD, created a DOS-partition and launched it. XCOPY'ed an XP CD to C:\XPCD and ran the WINNT.EXE setup program with no switches. When XP setup finishes, the Win98 DOS files are still on the C-drive and there is an option in boot.ini allowing me to boot Win98 DOS, so I just deleted the old files and removed the corresponding line from boot.ini. -- /klaus |
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Is it possible to install XP if the XP-CD is pre-copied to a blank hard drive?
XP Guy laid this down on his screen :
If I have a blank hard drive that I've partitioned as FAT32 and will boot into DOS, and if I copy the entire contents of an XP cd to the drive, is there a way I can launch the XP installation process after the machine starts and boots itself into DOS? There doesn't seem to be much on the net that explicitly says you can do that. I've tried, and setup.exe requires that it be launched from a protected mode (32-bit) environment (ie like win-98 I guess). Some other comments I've come across is that possibly the install can be started from DOS by running winnt.exe with the appropriate command-line switches. Yet other comments refer to bart-pe. So, it it possible? I was curios so I just tried it in a virtual pc using MS Virtual PC 2007. Booted an old Win98SE CD, created a DOS-partition and launched it. XCOPY'ed an XP CD to C:\XPCD and ran the WINNT.EXE setup program with no switches. When XP setup finishes, the Win98 DOS files are still on the C-drive and there is an option in boot.ini allowing me to boot Win98 DOS, so I just deleted the old files and removed the corresponding line from boot.ini. -- /klaus |
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