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What the ... Video Catastrophe and Off-Screen dilemma
Windows update insisted I needed to update my NVIDIA video drivers.
So I did. Now there is NO sound ! The HDMI input from my computer to my monitor for sound no longer exists ! Sound it Real... whatever it is called. There was no update for that. I fiddled for a day or two and gave up and fortunately could undo the install. Sound is now back ! But the video driver update is undone. What do do ? The only problem I see with the current but older driver is that if I plug in another monitor and drag stuff over to the @2 screen the app remembers that and if I disconnect the #2 monitor that app starts off screen and I cannot get it back to #1 monitor unless I manage to uninstall and reinstall. I got an app that will bring anything off screen to on screen but it still remembers the off screen and puts it on the non-connected #2 screen area. I doubt that new drier will fix this ???? Yes I went into the screen settings and changed stuff but no setting would undo the #2 screen fetish. |
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What the ... Video Catastrophe and Off-Screen dilemma
In message , FreeMan
writes: Windows update insisted I needed to update my NVIDIA video drivers. "Insisted", did it (-:! [] The only problem I see with the current but older driver is that if I plug in another monitor and drag stuff over to the @2 screen the app remembers that and if I disconnect the #2 monitor that app starts off screen and I cannot get it back to #1 monitor unless I manage to uninstall and reinstall. I got an app that will bring anything off screen to on screen but it still remembers the off screen and puts it on the non-connected #2 screen area. I doubt that new drier will fix this ???? Yes I went into the screen settings and changed stuff but no setting would undo the #2 screen fetish. Not a solution to the problem of the upgrade and drivers, but to get your invisible windows back: *if* you know where your now-not-present screen was relative to the one you still have: o switch to one of the off-screen prog.s (alt-tab, tab bar, or similar); o type Alt-space; o type M; o hold down the right-arrow key if the invisible screen was on the left, or the left-arrow key if the invisible screen was on the right, until part of the missing window appears. If you then can't see the top of it, then press down-arrow until you can. o press enter. Sorry if you knew this, but I know many don't. Also experiment with Alt-space then S. Try them both out with a window that _is_ on screen first, to see what they do and how; the main thing is to learn _not_ to use the mouse while you're playing with them! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "The great tragedy of science, the slaying of a beautiful theory by an ugly fact. - Thomas Henry Huxley |
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What the ... Video Catastrophe and Off-Screen dilemma
FreeMan wrote:
Windows update insisted I needed to update my NVIDIA video drivers. False (and you know it). Windows Update never forces you to get hardware updates. YOU chose to install the hardware (driver) update and that's what you did: you saw it offered and couldn't resist installing it. So what was not working with your current setup that you thought a new driver would fix? Microsoft provides no details aka release notes on what a new driver version will fix. For that, you have to visit the hardware maker's web site, see if THEY offer an updated driver, and check what it fixes (if they tell you; else, check the forums or contact them for details). Or do you really mean that you configured the WU client to perform automatic downloads and apply updates without your intervention because you chose to let Microsoft change the state of your computer whenever they feel like it? No one should leave the WU client configured for automatic updating. Either set to Never (and choose when you want to check for updates but after saving an image backup) or have it prompt you about available update but YOU choose which ones to install. Note: Despite how the WU client is configured, Microsoft has been found to push updates, especially those for updating the WU client itself. Users that have the WU client set to Never or prompt have sometimes found themselves waiting during a shutdown for an update to apply for which they were never notified or which not allowed by the user, and more updating on the next startup of Windows. The only sure way to thwart Microsoft from changing the state of your computer is to disable both the Windows Update service and the Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) service. Disable them and then reenable them later when you decide it's time to check and choose which updates to get. Now there is NO sound ! So try a System Restore after the *un*forced driver update. System Restore doesn't always work (for me, it's a coin toss). That's why you should be doing regularly scheduled backups and also perform a backup before committing major surgery to your computer's state. Never get driver updates via Windows Update. Only use the notification of a new driver to go to the manufacturer's own web site to see if THEY offer a driver update applicable to the hardware you actually have. Drivers at Windows Update are often "family" drivers, so WU might incorrectly detect your hardware as within that family or use the driver for a different model in that family than what you have. I fiddled for a day or two and gave up and fortunately could undo the install. Sound is now back ! But the video driver update is undone. So right-click on it in the WU list and choose to Hide it -- if seeing it perturbs you so much that it become irrestible to you. You can ignore any update offered by the WU client in Windows 7 (a level of granularity in control not afforded in Windows 10). You could elect to hide it in the list (until a new version of the same update appears later - hiding is by version of an update, not for all versions of an update). |
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What the ... Video Catastrophe and Off-Screen dilemma
FreeMan wrote:
Windows update insisted I needed to update my NVIDIA video drivers. So I did. Check whether an auto-updater was already present in the NVidia package. Make sure it's turned off. AMD seems to have one too, because it bugs the hell out of me on the Windows 10 Insider. If you're an avid 3D game player, then you'll want every video driver update that comes out. Because some of the drivers have stuff added or fixed to make the latest game work. If, on the other hand, your video card is nothing more than a frame buffer for you, to a large extent the driver updates would be more trouble than they're worth. For example, on the NVidia package, there might be eight sub-installers. One of which will bomb on the way in, and leave the status of the driver as "incomplete", causing the package to install again and again. It's an example of "too much of a good thing", as not all those crusty packages are really necessary. Some are "promotional" in nature, and really don't belong in there. If you can figure out which sub-item is failing, you can try ticking the boxes manually and controlling what gets installed. Paul |
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