Goodbye Linux: Why am ditching linux and going back to Windows 10

default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:

----snip----

I had to leave for NY unexpectedly, so took an android tablet and
laptop with a clean install of Windows 7 on it. Got to NY and ended
up staying for 5 months..

MS put out a flawed update that caused the system to hang and cycle
through continuous re-boots. Windows didn't run for a second. I
found the skinny on the MS site but they wouldn't allow me to download
it since I would have to have a working W7 system before it would
allow the download. (catch 22)

Not even a vicious circle.

Catch 22 is when you can't do something because you *want* to do it.

catch-22
noun
a dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape
because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.

Your dictionary is wrong. Read the book.

Well then you are WRONG. But it happens to everyone;nothing to be
ashamed of...

----psychobabble snipped----

AND I did read the book many years
ago and came away with the contextual meaning and it seems spot-on.

As I've said, follow Yosarian's manoeuverings to get out of the US
Air Force. He played crazy, remember? seeking a section 8. But the
doctor wouldn't certify him because he wanted out, the reasoning
being that anyone who wants out of a war has to be sane.

I need to fix Windows 7, MS knows they had a flawed update and puts
out the cure, but alas, the cure requires a working Windows 7 system
before the web site allows me to download it.

They supplied you a defective product.
Write to them. Demand an installation disc.

Catch 22 in all it's glory.

Not even close.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 07:16:00 -0500, Ned Latham
wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:
default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:

----snip----

MS put out a flawed update that caused the system to hang and cycle
through continuous re-boots. Windows didn't run for a second. I
found the skinny on the MS site but they wouldn't allow me to download
it since I would have to have a working W7 system before it would
allow the download. (catch 22)

Not even a vicious circle.

Catch 22 is when you can't do something because you *want* to do it.

catch-22
noun
a dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape
because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.

----snip----

A catch-22 is a paradoxical situation from which an individual cannot
escape because of contradictory rules or limitations.[1][2] The term was
coined by Joseph Heller, who used it in his 1961 novel Catch-22.

Mr "default" is correct.

Rubbish. Read the book. Follow Yosarian's manoeuvering to get out of
the US Air Force. A catch 22 situation is one in which you cannot do
somnething *because* you want to do it (conversely, if you didn't want
to do it, you'd be able).

Rubbish. Read the book. It has nothing to do with one's wants or
desires. It is the conflicting rules that cause the conflict and
impossible situation. Catch-22, in common use today, is with that
context in mind.

Being wrong or ignorant are not so bad because the situation is easily
remedied. However, being wrong and defending a losing position is
stupid, and that is not easily remedied.

"..obstreperous people are people who tend to buck the rules. They
tend to want to do things their way. They tend to not see the sense
behind the various rules, and thus are overtly willing to go around
them."
from: http://toughthingsfirst.com/blog/obstreperousness/

Anyone see a correlation between that statement and Donald Trump, or
is it just me?

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 07:56:53 -0500, Ned Latham
wrote:

default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:

----snip----

I had to leave for NY unexpectedly, so took an android tablet and
laptop with a clean install of Windows 7 on it. Got to NY and ended
up staying for 5 months..

MS put out a flawed update that caused the system to hang and cycle
through continuous re-boots. Windows didn't run for a second. I
found the skinny on the MS site but they wouldn't allow me to download
it since I would have to have a working W7 system before it would
allow the download. (catch 22)

Not even a vicious circle.

Catch 22 is when you can't do something because you *want* to do it.

catch-22
noun
a dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape
because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.

Your dictionary is wrong. Read the book.

Well then you are WRONG. But it happens to everyone;nothing to be
ashamed of...

----psychobabble snipped----

Hey, don't knock psychobabble. It may be nothing but smoke and
mirrors, but it allows those of us with a need to explain inexplicable
behavior a way of pretending we know what is going on, so we can move
on to actually working at real problems.

And if one is an engineer or scientist, it is desirable to be able to
analyze one's own biases and hang ups lest one falls into a trap of
one's own making. (mentally speaking)

There's nothing worse IMO than "marrying" a theory and then trying to
fit the available evidence into one's pet theory.

But during simpler times we used barbers and bartenders as sounding
boards and didn't need psychologists (with their heads up their asses)
to tell us we were drifting off track.

AND I did read the book many years
ago and came away with the contextual meaning and it seems spot-on.

As I've said, follow Yosarian's manoeuverings to get out of the US
Air Force. He played crazy, remember? seeking a section 8. But the
doctor wouldn't certify him because he wanted out, the reasoning
being that anyone who wants out of a war has to be sane.

I see where you are coming from. You are more structured and literal
in your reasoning. (born-again evangelical?)

I need to fix Windows 7, MS knows they had a flawed update and puts
out the cure, but alas, the cure requires a working Windows 7 system
before the web site allows me to download it.

They supplied you a defective product.
Write to them. Demand an installation disc.

ROFLAO
Have you ever (since say Windows 3.2) managed to get anything out of
Microsoft? I tried when my licensed copy Windows XP failed to load.
The telephone tree eventually transferred me to what amounts to a M$
sales person (after a lot of time on "hold") who was trying to say
that I'd have to pay to upgrade to Vista even though XP was still in
support. I hung up on that idiot and loaded a pre-activated pirate
copy.

And this was after most folks knew Vista to be a dog and after they
allowed their corporate users to downgrade back to XP.

Catch 22 in all it's glory.

Not even close.

We must forever remain at odds it seems. Have a great day.

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


It is unfortunate that colour epaper has not been invented.

https://www.eink.com/color-technology.html

Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/10/2019 19.57, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 12/10/2019 15.58, Bud Frede wrote:
"Carlos E.R." writes:

On 11/10/2019 13.16, Bud Frede wrote:

The only time I touch Windows these days is when I have to RDP into a
customer's system, and it always makes me feel like I've got one eye
blindfolded and one arm tied behind my back. :-)

Well, for instance I buy ebooks with DRM. That means that they either
come via Kobo, or via Adobe. In the former case, I may download them via
wifi direct to my ebook, but in the second case not. Then sometimes I
need to run updates to the device.

If 'via Adobe' means 'via Adobe Digital Editions' (ADE), you might
want to use the ADE *app* on *Android*, instead of the ADE *program* on
*Windows*.

Why? :-?

Oops, I thought that was evident :-) :

Because it would be one less program, for which you need to use
Windows on your laptop. (IIRC, your TomTom is the only other thing you
need Windows for.)

So I was looking_for/suggesting a method to move one of your tasks
off Windows.

Depending on your setup, this may or not be a suitable alternative.

[N.B. I happened to stumble on the Android ADE app, when I did not see
how I could authorize an Android device with the Windows ADE program.]

I had some bad experiences with Kobo, and Adobe sucks too. I use a
Kindle, but I sideload it since I don't want it to phone home on
wifi. (I don't configure wifi on it and keep it in airplane mode as
well.)

So far I've been able to do everything I need to with the Kindle on
Linux.

Including buying and reading DRM protected ebooks in epub format?

For buying, don't you buy these books in a web-browser, i.e. OS
independent? (Of course for the .ascm to .pub conversion, you still need
a program such as ADE.)

Yes, of course, the action of purchasing can be done anywhere, and for
me that's Firefox on Linux. It is the downloading where DRM comes into
play. It can be directly via WiFi to the Kobo device, without computer
intervention. But if it not from the kobo shop, then it means using ADE.

For reading, do you only read with your Kobo eReader (device, not app/
program) or do you also read on your Windows (+Linux) laptop?

Only with the Kobo eReader, it is far more comfortable on the eyes. IF
the book has colour, then I'd use a tablet.

Good, so you don't need an ebook-reader program on Windows. One less
worry! :-)

It is unfortunate that colour epaper has not been invented.

Bud Frede wrote:
123456789 writes:
Bud Frede wrote:

You can buy Amazon ebooks directly on the Kindle no
transferring needed.

I prefer doing it this way so the Kindle doesn't have
to have wifi enabled and thus phone home to Amazon.

Then you would lose the ability to synchronize your
ebooks across all your devices. Paranoia hath its
costs...


All what devices? I read ebooks on my Kindle.

You read your books ONLY on your Kindle? You're losing one of
the big advantages of ebooks: Reading them on most any
device while just about anywhere. My Kindle fits poorly in
my pocket but I always have my phone when out. Since all my
devices are synced I can read on any of them with no
interruption. Try it, you'll like it...

I tend to buy from publishers that respect me and
don't assume from the start that I'm a thief whom
they need to protect themselves from with DRM.

So you also don't shop at stores that have those
shoplifting detectors at the doors because you think
the store assumes your a thief??

I don't remember the last time I shopped at a store that
had detectors at the exits.

You didn't answer my question. But never mind. My point was
simply that when stores and authors use devices to protect
themselves against theft they are not assuming that YOU
personally are a thief.

Do you lock your doors? Are all people who knock thieves?

Again, none of this changes my opinion on DRM.

Passing up a good read because of DRM may be shooting
yourself in the foot. I doubt the author would miss one
sale. On the other hand I see lots of ebooks advertised as
DRM-free these days so maybe others like yourself are making
a difference. Fortunately for don't-cares like me it makes
little difference either way. So carry on...

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123456789 wrote:
Bud Frede wrote:

All what devices? I read ebooks on my Kindle.

You read your books ONLY on your Kindle? You're losing one of
the big advantages of ebooks: Reading them on most any
device while just about anywhere. My Kindle fits poorly in
my pocket but I always have my phone when out. Since all my
devices are synced I can read on any of them with no
interruption. Try it, you'll like it...

That's what the Kindle app is for . Although personally, I find
trying to "read a book" on my phone's screen to be more straining on the
eyes than the actual Kindle. It's not so bad that I can't do it for an
hour or so; but if I've got more time on my hands, I prefer the e-ink
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default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
default wrote:

----snip----

A catch-22 is a paradoxical situation from which an individual cannot
escape because of contradictory rules or limitations.[1][2] The term was
coined by Joseph Heller, who used it in his 1961 novel Catch-22.

Mr "default" is correct.

Rubbish. Read the book. Follow Yosarian's manoeuvering to get out of
the US Air Force. A catch 22 situation is one in which you cannot do
somnething *because* you want to do it (conversely, if you didn't want
to do it, you'd be able).

Rubbish. Read the book.

No prizes for second. bozo.

It has nothing to do with one's wants or
desires. It is the conflicting rules that cause the conflict and
impossible situation.

Wrong. There were no conflicting rules in Yosarian's situation. His
problem arose because of his choices.

Your problem Windows 7 is similar. You can't fix it *the way you
want to*. You *could* fix it by getting a new installation disc.

----snip----

default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:

----snip----

I need to fix Windows 7, MS knows they had a flawed update and puts
out the cure, but alas, the cure requires a working Windows 7 system
before the web site allows me to download it.

They supplied you a defective product.
Write to them. Demand an installation disc.

ROFLAO
Have you ever (since say Windows 3.2) managed to get anything out of
Microsoft?

I didn't say "ask".

I tried when my licensed copy Windows XP failed to load.
The telephone tree eventually transferred me to what amounts to a M$
sales person (after a lot of time on "hold") who was trying to say
that I'd have to pay to upgrade to Vista even though XP was still in
support. I hung up on that idiot and loaded a pre-activated pirate
copy.

So do that with W7.

----snip----

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 08:55:08 -0700, 123456789 wrote:

Bud Frede wrote:
123456789 writes:
Bud Frede wrote:

You can buy Amazon ebooks directly on the Kindle no
transferring needed.

I prefer doing it this way so the Kindle doesn't have
to have wifi enabled and thus phone home to Amazon.

Then you would lose the ability to synchronize your
ebooks across all your devices. Paranoia hath its
costs...


All what devices? I read ebooks on my Kindle.

You read your books ONLY on your Kindle? You're losing one of
the big advantages of ebooks: Reading them on most any
device while just about anywhere. My Kindle fits poorly in
my pocket but I always have my phone when out. Since all my
devices are synced I can read on any of them with no
interruption. Try it, you'll like it...


Not me. I read my Kindle books only on my phone. I never use my Kindle
anymore. It's much easier to carry my phone with me, and I find the
smaller, lighter device easier to use, and I can do almost everything
with just one hand.

But each to his own. If you prefer multiple devices, that's fine with
me. But that doesn't mean that everyone else will have the same
preferences you do.

On 15/10/2019 16.22, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


It is unfortunate that colour epaper has not been invented.

https://www.eink.com/color-technology.html

Wow!


Unfortunately:

«Not yet commercially available, the initial target application for
ACeP™ will be for digital signage applications.»

The page is dated 2017.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 15/10/2019 17.36, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 14/10/2019 19.57, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 12/10/2019 15.58, Bud Frede wrote:
"Carlos E.R." writes:

On 11/10/2019 13.16, Bud Frede wrote:

The only time I touch Windows these days is when I have to RDP into a
customer's system, and it always makes me feel like I've got one eye
blindfolded and one arm tied behind my back. :-)

Well, for instance I buy ebooks with DRM. That means that they either
come via Kobo, or via Adobe. In the former case, I may download them via
wifi direct to my ebook, but in the second case not. Then sometimes I
need to run updates to the device.

If 'via Adobe' means 'via Adobe Digital Editions' (ADE), you might
want to use the ADE *app* on *Android*, instead of the ADE *program* on
*Windows*.

Why? :-?

Oops, I thought that was evident :-) :

Because it would be one less program, for which you need to use
Windows on your laptop. (IIRC, your TomTom is the only other thing you
need Windows for.)

So I was looking_for/suggesting a method to move one of your tasks
off Windows.

Ah, understood. Yes.
There is one caveat: the DRM removal procedure I know about uses
Windows. I read about a Linux procedure, but it was not practical.

Disclaimer: I remove DRM for backup purposes, never to give away copies.
And I buy mine.


Depending on your setup, this may or not be a suitable alternative.

[N.B. I happened to stumble on the Android ADE app, when I did not see
how I could authorize an Android device with the Windows ADE program.]

I had some bad experiences with Kobo, and Adobe sucks too. I use a
Kindle, but I sideload it since I don't want it to phone home on
wifi. (I don't configure wifi on it and keep it in airplane mode as
well.)

So far I've been able to do everything I need to with the Kindle on
Linux.

Including buying and reading DRM protected ebooks in epub format?

For buying, don't you buy these books in a web-browser, i.e. OS
independent? (Of course for the .ascm to .pub conversion, you still need
a program such as ADE.)

Yes, of course, the action of purchasing can be done anywhere, and for
me that's Firefox on Linux. It is the downloading where DRM comes into
play. It can be directly via WiFi to the Kobo device, without computer
intervention. But if it not from the kobo shop, then it means using ADE.

For reading, do you only read with your Kobo eReader (device, not app/
program) or do you also read on your Windows (+Linux) laptop?

Only with the Kobo eReader, it is far more comfortable on the eyes. IF
the book has colour, then I'd use a tablet.

Good, so you don't need an ebook-reader program on Windows. One less
worry! :-)

Oh, I hate reading books in a laptop, whatever operating system. Having
to do it on Windows would be worse.

Reason is I read either flat in bed, looking at the ceiling, or in a
sofa. The laptop is much heavier than the ereader. Occasionally (like
when visiting some relatives) I read in the garden. A laptop is not easy
to read in the sun, needs a shade.


It is unfortunate that colour epaper has not been invented.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 11:43:06 -0500, Ned Latham
wrote:

default wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
default wrote:

----snip----

I need to fix Windows 7, MS knows they had a flawed update and puts
out the cure, but alas, the cure requires a working Windows 7 system
before the web site allows me to download it.

They supplied you a defective product.
Write to them. Demand an installation disc.

ROFLAO
Have you ever (since say Windows 3.2) managed to get anything out of
Microsoft?

I didn't say "ask".

I do tend to be overbearing and truculent when dealing with vendors as
a matter of habit. It became evident that the bozo I was dealing with
had no intention of helping me and probably was only interested in his
sales commissions, and may have known less about the OS than I did.

I tried when my licensed copy Windows XP failed to load.
The telephone tree eventually transferred me to what amounts to a M$
sales person (after a lot of time on "hold") who was trying to say
that I'd have to pay to upgrade to Vista even though XP was still in
support. I hung up on that idiot and loaded a pre-activated pirate
copy.

So do that with W7.

----snip----

That would have been an option. I think I did find an Android ap for
bit torrent, but Linux is smaller with less bloat and did everything I
needed without paying to re-install the applications I already owned.
Then there's the driver downloads, another catch-22? You need to be
on-line to download the driver to connect the wifi or ethernet to get
on-line. Linux worked right from the flash drive, no drivers needed.

We can argue forever over the various merits of one strategy over
another, but a small flash drive with several distros of Linux costs
next to nothing and is good insurance.

On 15/10/2019 19.04, Ken Blake wrote:
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 08:55:08 -0700, 123456789 wrote:

Bud Frede wrote:
123456789 writes:
Bud Frede wrote:

You can buy Amazon ebooks directly on the Kindle no
transferring needed.

I prefer doing it this way so the Kindle doesn't have
to have wifi enabled and thus phone home to Amazon.

Then you would lose the ability to synchronize your
ebooks across all your devices. Paranoia hath its
costs...


All what devices? I read ebooks on my Kindle.

You read your books ONLY on your Kindle? You're losing one of
the big advantages of ebooks: Reading them on most any
device while just about anywhere. My Kindle fits poorly in
my pocket but I always have my phone when out. Since all my
devices are synced I can read on any of them with no
interruption. Try it, you'll like it...


Not me. I read my Kindle books only on my phone. I never use my Kindle
anymore. It's much easier to carry my phone with me, and I find the
smaller, lighter device easier to use, and I can do almost everything
with just one hand.

But each to his own. If you prefer multiple devices, that's fine with
me. But that doesn't mean that everyone else will have the same
preferences you do.

I don't read on multiple devices. I read on just one: the ebook reader.
It is far far far easier on the eyes.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

Carlos E.R. wrote:

I don't read on multiple devices. I read on just one: the
ebook reader. It is far far far easier on the eyes.

I've gotten used to white text on a black background. Also
very eye easy...