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Wanted dual boot - I think?
Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new
WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. |
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"rogert" wrote in message = ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added = a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep = data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the = data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and = use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed = me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 = drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff = from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I = wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's = kinda all in the same "mess" Well, if you haven't stuffed it up yet, you can do this easily. First, = be sure that your setup when in Windows can see the whole 160gigs of = drive space. With the new WD hard drive, you should have gotten a utlity = disk with it, which will allow you to fromrat, make partitions, and copy = directly over the system onto the new drive from the old.=20 Take your new drive, set it as slave, then boot with thw WD disk, format = the drive, aprtition (i would recommend that even if you want it whole). = Then copy over the entire system. Then switch the drive as master and = slave and boot from it. Now you can use the new drive as you want, and = do what you want with the older, now slave drive. My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to = go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the = end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate = from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately, you cannot do this, as only one drive can be the boot = drive and primary (you can make the other one a boot drive, but it will = be secondary, until you change the jumpers). You can have only one at a = time, short of modifying the jumpers with a switch that would allow you = to switch back and forth, without having to open the case, and switch = jumpers. It simply cannot be setup the way you want as having two = primary drive with the system boot configuration on them, short of my = suggestion above, or doing a dual-boot, which will not serve your = purpose.=20 Do a google search for switches made for making an easy way to make = separate drives primary boot devices. |
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"rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. |
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"Pegasus" wrote in message = ... =20 "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I = added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep = data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the = data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and = use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed = me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 = drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted = stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now = it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to = go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot = from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in = the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate = from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. =20 If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. =20 This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. =20 Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you = suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch = back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master = to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion = won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive = to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary = partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical = setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn = vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I = am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the = outside that would do such a thing. |
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"Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =============== XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 will now appear as drive D:. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was not very clear in this regard. |
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"Pegasus" wrote in message = ... =20 "Tom" wrote in message ... =20 "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I = added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to = keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the = data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and = use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed = me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 = drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted = stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now = it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever = to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot = from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in = the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate = from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. =20 If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you = suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and = forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to = secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as = the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, = you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, = with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs = to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his = case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a = jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without = modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive = then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk = 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then = the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 = will now appear as drive D:. But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as = Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the = primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize = two primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I = tried doing that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot = devices. Yes, I made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it = posted would only take one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an = error that there was no OS to load because i didn't have the jumpers set = properly. Now, whether there is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI = slot that will do this, I don't know, but there are such controller = cards. Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in = the BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was = not very clear in this regard. I agree, he was not clear at all. |
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"Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =============== XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 will now appear as drive D:. But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize two primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I tried doing that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot devices. Yes, I made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it posted would only take one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an error that there was no OS to load because i didn't have the jumpers set properly. Now, whether there is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI slot that will do this, I don't know, but there are such controller cards. Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in the BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was not very clear in this regard. I agree, he was not clear at all. ======================== I tested my proposed configuration with the two disks connected as primary master/primary slave. XOSL does not care whether a given disk is a master or a slave. If you include a given partition in its menu then it will boot from it. XOSL even allows you to boot into a logical drive! |
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"Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =============== XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 will now appear as drive D:. But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize two primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I tried doing that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot devices. Yes, I made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it posted would only take one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an error that there was no OS to load because i didn't have the jumpers set properly. Now, whether there is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI slot that will do this, I don't know, but there are such controller cards. Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in the BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was not very clear in this regard. I agree, he was not clear at all. ======================== I tested my proposed configuration with the two disks connected as primary master/primary slave. XOSL does not care whether a given disk is a master or a slave. If you include a given partition in its menu then it will boot from it. XOSL even allows you to boot into a logical drive! |
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"Pegasus" wrote in message
... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =============== XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 will now appear as drive D:. But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize two primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I tried doing that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot devices. Yes, I made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it posted would only take one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an error that there was no OS to load because i didn't have the jumpers set properly. Now, whether there is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI slot that will do this, I don't know, but there are such controller cards. Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in the BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was not very clear in this regard. I agree, he was not clear at all. ======================== I tested my proposed configuration with the two disks connected as primary master/primary slave. XOSL does not care whether a given disk is a master or a slave. If you include a given partition in its menu then it will boot from it. XOSL even allows you to boot into a logical drive! This is right. I have in one computer as many as 6 OSs in two disks, one primary master and the other secondary master. In another machine I have 5 OSs, in two disks, both masters, but one in the ordinary primary channel and the other in the primary RAID channel. Xosl, can boot almost anything whenever the OS supports booting from the partitions allocated. For example, it cannot boot Win XP from a logical partition, but it boots all right Linux from such a partition. What I think Rogert wants is simply to have his old HD as storage device. For that he must first create a partition for the whole HD and then format it with the same file system (or lower) where the OS resides. In that way it will appear in Windows as drive "D" or something. In this way, he simply drags and drops files from one disk to the other. No need to dual boot. Teilhard. |
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"Pegasus" wrote in message
... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =============== XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 will now appear as drive D:. But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize two primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I tried doing that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot devices. Yes, I made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it posted would only take one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an error that there was no OS to load because i didn't have the jumpers set properly. Now, whether there is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI slot that will do this, I don't know, but there are such controller cards. Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in the BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was not very clear in this regard. I agree, he was not clear at all. ======================== I tested my proposed configuration with the two disks connected as primary master/primary slave. XOSL does not care whether a given disk is a master or a slave. If you include a given partition in its menu then it will boot from it. XOSL even allows you to boot into a logical drive! This is right. I have in one computer as many as 6 OSs in two disks, one primary master and the other secondary master. In another machine I have 5 OSs, in two disks, both masters, but one in the ordinary primary channel and the other in the primary RAID channel. Xosl, can boot almost anything whenever the OS supports booting from the partitions allocated. For example, it cannot boot Win XP from a logical partition, but it boots all right Linux from such a partition. What I think Rogert wants is simply to have his old HD as storage device. For that he must first create a partition for the whole HD and then format it with the same file system (or lower) where the OS resides. In that way it will appear in Windows as drive "D" or something. In this way, he simply drags and drops files from one disk to the other. No need to dual boot. Teilhard. |
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Wanted dual boot - I think?
"Pegasus" wrote in message
... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =============== XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 will now appear as drive D:. But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize two primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I tried doing that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot devices. Yes, I made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it posted would only take one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an error that there was no OS to load because i didn't have the jumpers set properly. Now, whether there is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI slot that will do this, I don't know, but there are such controller cards. Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in the BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was not very clear in this regard. I agree, he was not clear at all. ======================== I tested my proposed configuration with the two disks connected as primary master/primary slave. XOSL does not care whether a given disk is a master or a slave. If you include a given partition in its menu then it will boot from it. XOSL even allows you to boot into a logical drive! This is right. I have in one computer as many as 6 OSs in two disks, one primary master and the other secondary master. In another machine I have 5 OSs, in two disks, both masters, but one in the ordinary primary channel and the other in the primary RAID channel. Xosl, can boot almost anything whenever the OS supports booting from the partitions allocated. For example, it cannot boot Win XP from a logical partition, but it boots all right Linux from such a partition. What I think Rogert wants is simply to have his old HD as storage device. For that he must first create a partition for the whole HD and then format it with the same file system (or lower) where the OS resides. In that way it will appear in Windows as drive "D" or something. In this way, he simply drags and drops files from one disk to the other. No need to dual boot. Teilhard. |
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Wanted dual boot - I think?
"Pegasus" wrote in message
... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =============== XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 will now appear as drive D:. But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize two primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I tried doing that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot devices. Yes, I made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it posted would only take one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an error that there was no OS to load because i didn't have the jumpers set properly. Now, whether there is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI slot that will do this, I don't know, but there are such controller cards. Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in the BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was not very clear in this regard. I agree, he was not clear at all. ======================== I tested my proposed configuration with the two disks connected as primary master/primary slave. XOSL does not care whether a given disk is a master or a slave. If you include a given partition in its menu then it will boot from it. XOSL even allows you to boot into a logical drive! This is right. I have in one computer as many as 6 OSs in two disks, one primary master and the other secondary master. In another machine I have 5 OSs, in two disks, both masters, but one in the ordinary primary channel and the other in the primary RAID channel. Xosl, can boot almost anything whenever the OS supports booting from the partitions allocated. For example, it cannot boot Win XP from a logical partition, but it boots all right Linux from such a partition. What I think Rogert wants is simply to have his old HD as storage device. For that he must first create a partition for the whole HD and then format it with the same file system (or lower) where the OS resides. In that way it will appear in Windows as drive "D" or something. In this way, he simply drags and drops files from one disk to the other. No need to dual boot. Teilhard. |
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Wanted dual boot - I think?
"Pegasus" wrote in message
... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "Tom" wrote in message ... "Pegasus" wrote in message ... "rogert" wrote in message ... Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you suggest cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and forth making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to secondary/slave as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you can make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak, with their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs to be changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his case, meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a jumper switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing. =============== XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without modifying the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2 will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then the machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1 will now appear as drive D:. But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize two primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I tried doing that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot devices. Yes, I made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it posted would only take one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an error that there was no OS to load because i didn't have the jumpers set properly. Now, whether there is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI slot that will do this, I don't know, but there are such controller cards. Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in the BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK. Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was not very clear in this regard. I agree, he was not clear at all. ======================== I tested my proposed configuration with the two disks connected as primary master/primary slave. XOSL does not care whether a given disk is a master or a slave. If you include a given partition in its menu then it will boot from it. XOSL even allows you to boot into a logical drive! This is right. I have in one computer as many as 6 OSs in two disks, one primary master and the other secondary master. In another machine I have 5 OSs, in two disks, both masters, but one in the ordinary primary channel and the other in the primary RAID channel. Xosl, can boot almost anything whenever the OS supports booting from the partitions allocated. For example, it cannot boot Win XP from a logical partition, but it boots all right Linux from such a partition. What I think Rogert wants is simply to have his old HD as storage device. For that he must first create a partition for the whole HD and then format it with the same file system (or lower) where the OS resides. In that way it will appear in Windows as drive "D" or something. In this way, he simply drags and drops files from one disk to the other. No need to dual boot. Teilhard. |
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Wanted dual boot - I think?
-----Original Message----- "rogert" wrote in message .. . Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. Hi, I'm not the original questioner but I would like more info on using XOSL. We have 2 hard drives, one with Winows 98 and one with XP Professional. We want to be able to put them into one cpu and be able to boot to either one of them. We tried setting the one with 98 as a slave but we can not get into it that way. When I was reading about XOSL, it seemed to be wanting to just partition one drive, but this is not what we want to do at this point. Will XOSL let us boot to either of these drives and will the instructions be understandable by someone that is not a computer genius? Thank you for your help. Wauna |
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Wanted dual boot - I think?
"Wauna" wrote in message ... -----Original Message----- "rogert" wrote in message .. . Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added a new WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep data and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the data I wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and use it simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed me to use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2 drive, essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff from but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I wanted to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's kinda all in the same "mess" My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to go to the type of setup I wanted in the first place? In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot from either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the end keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate from the new 160 gig primary drive? Any help here would be greatly appreciated. If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to boot from each and at all times be able to access the other. This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders. I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's free. Post again if you require more details. Hi, I'm not the original questioner but I would like more info on using XOSL. We have 2 hard drives, one with Winows 98 and one with XP Professional. We want to be able to put them into one cpu and be able to boot to either one of them. We tried setting the one with 98 as a slave but we can not get into it that way. When I was reading about XOSL, it seemed to be wanting to just partition one drive, but this is not what we want to do at this point. Will XOSL let us boot to either of these drives and will the instructions be understandable by someone that is not a computer genius? Thank you for your help. Wauna XOSL lets you boot from either drive. The product comes with help files but they may be insufficient for a novice. Remember that it's a freeware product (but a terrific one!). Post your exact setup here (i.e. an exact map of all your partitions, their type and their purpose), plus your exact requirements, and we'll step you throuth the process. |
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