How to get rid of HP bloat?

I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on a new computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD dual core 64, 1 GHZ RAM.

It does slow down start up a lot

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:cKI1h.6864$d95.2139@trnddc08...
I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on a new
computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD dual core 64, 1
GHZ RAM.

It does slow down start up a lot.

Start\Control Panel\Add & Delete.
It`s easy really % }.
HTH.

Ritter197 wrote:
*I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on a
new computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD dual
core 64, 1 GHZ RAM.*
**
*It does slow down start up a lot*

fdisk, or format c:? Then install linux? :-)

In article cKI1h.6864$d95.2139@trnddc08, says...

I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on a new
computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD dual core 64, 1 GHZ RAM.

It does slow down start up a lot

The best way in my opinion is to wipe it all out and put a full retail
version on......But, that'll cost ya extra money plus if you're
dependant on any of the pre-installed crap that comes with the HP
that'll also cost ya to shell out for the software.

Another negative, seems like a fairly new machine, is that once you wipe
off HP's crap your tech support goes out the window and your key cannot
be used by borrowing an other than OEM install of the OS. I mean you
don't have ta tell HP if you call them but wiping out the machine also
wipes the maintanence partitions. But before you wipe anything out make
sure you create the full restore CD/s that should be available for you
to make.

Yes, OEM installs will accept your key, just validate it by phone
because internet activation may not work.......This of course being if
you can borrow an OEM version & install it..........I've only done that
on XP Home addition so I'm not sure what yer running as ya only
mentioned XP SP2.

But the easier solution is to just uninstall all the offending programs
that are running in the background or just do an msconfig & prevent
thenm from starting up..........Or find each offending programs options
and stop them from there.

Make sure you have created a set of recovery CD's or DVD's in case you ever
want to get back to the factory setup. Backup your data. Obtain a copy of
whatever OS you want to install. If it's Windows you'll have to purchase it.
Install your desired OS. During the install delete all the partitions on the
hard drive and create new ones. Install your programs. Restore your data.

It's alost impossible to get rid of all the crap HP installs by any other
method. I have spent hours trying to remove it all with only partial
success.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Ritter197 wrote:
I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on
a new computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD
dual core 64, 1 GHZ RAM.

It does slow down start up a lot

Kerry: Why isn't Add or Remove Programs sufficient? It may not remove
every last file and registry entry, but what's left doesn't really
matter and the programs are effectively uninstalled. At least, that's
what worked on my Dell system.

Admittedly, some things aren't uninstall-able from Add or Remove, like
customizations made to Help and Support. But I was able to find clear
instructions on removing that.

It just seems like blowing everything away and starting from scratch is
overkill.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Kerry Brown wrote:
Make sure you have created a set of recovery CD's or DVD's in case you ever
want to get back to the factory setup. Backup your data. Obtain a copy of
whatever OS you want to install. If it's Windows you'll have to purchase it.
Install your desired OS. During the install delete all the partitions on the
hard drive and create new ones. Install your programs. Restore your data.

It's alost impossible to get rid of all the crap HP installs by any other
method. I have spent hours trying to remove it all with only partial
success.

http://genuinewindows.co.uk - my small effort at discouraging this scaberous
practice (or at least allowing the buying public to be wise before the event,
instead of after they part with their cash)

What do you mean?


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"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:cKI1h.6864$d95.2139@trnddc08...
I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on a new
computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD dual core 64,
1 GHZ RAM.

It does slow down start up a lot.

Start\Control Panel\Add & Delete.
It`s easy really % }.
HTH.

Well, I have read all your helpful suggestions:

1. I do not want to format and install Linux
2. I would like very much to just un-install the HP "crap"
3. I already have gone a number of times to Msconfig and have hardly
anything in the Startup folder (I think only NOD32, my AntiVirus SW)
4. I understand that buying or maybe using the Windows XP edition from MS
(which I have and used before on the desktop now replaced by the HP machine)
will probably work, but means installing all programs all over again.
5. My much preferred way is to find and get rid of the HP stuff. But there I
have not been too successful, to even find it under "explore"

I appreciate your replies


"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
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Kerry: Why isn't Add or Remove Programs sufficient? It may not remove
every last file and registry entry, but what's left doesn't really matter
and the programs are effectively uninstalled. At least, that's what worked
on my Dell system.

Admittedly, some things aren't uninstall-able from Add or Remove, like
customizations made to Help and Support. But I was able to find clear
instructions on removing that.

It just seems like blowing everything away and starting from scratch is
overkill.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Kerry Brown wrote:
Make sure you have created a set of recovery CD's or DVD's in case you
ever want to get back to the factory setup. Backup your data. Obtain a
copy of whatever OS you want to install. If it's Windows you'll have to
purchase it. Install your desired OS. During the install delete all the
partitions on the hard drive and create new ones. Install your programs.
Restore your data.

It's alost impossible to get rid of all the crap HP installs by any other
method. I have spent hours trying to remove it all with only partial
success.

"Ritter197" wrote in message
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What do you mean?


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"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:cKI1h.6864$d95.2139@trnddc08...
I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on a
new computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD dual
core 64, 1 GHZ RAM.

It does slow down start up a lot.

Start\Control Panel\Add & Delete.
It`s easy really % }.
HTH.


"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:WGK1h.6923$d95.5117@trnddc08...
What do you mean?

I assumed that HP have installed loads of programs that you
don`t want. ?.
So just uninstall what you don`t need.
HTH.

It would be possible to remove most and possibly all of the unwanted crap
but when something goes wrong and you need to reinstall Windows a repair
install cannot be done from the restore media and using the restore media
would put all the crap back on. You would have to go through the whole
process again. I wasn't able to remove everything from a new HP system after
several hours of labour. I spent more time trying to cleanup a brand new
system than it takes to clean most spyware infected systems. I came to the
conclusion that it was much cheaper and better in the long run to purchase
Windows and do a clean install. This is only with large OEM consumer
products. Their products aimed at the business/enterprise market don't have
all this crap installed from the factory. Note this is not particular to
HP/Compaq. Most consumer (low priced) systems from large OEMs have the same
problem. Some like Dell and Gateway will supply Windows media if requested
so you don't have to purchase a full retail version of Windows to do this.
HP/Compaq, eMachines, and others will not supply Windows media only restore
media. There is a reason some pc's are cheaper than others. They collect
royalites/spiffs/kickbacks from other companies, some of them known spyware,
for installing this stuff on new pc's. They want to make sure it's hard to
uninstall.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Ted Zieglar wrote:
Kerry: Why isn't Add or Remove Programs sufficient? It may not remove
every last file and registry entry, but what's left doesn't really
matter and the programs are effectively uninstalled. At least, that's
what worked on my Dell system.

Admittedly, some things aren't uninstall-able from Add or Remove, like
customizations made to Help and Support. But I was able to find clear
instructions on removing that.

It just seems like blowing everything away and starting from scratch
is overkill.

---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Kerry Brown wrote:
Make sure you have created a set of recovery CD's or DVD's in case
you ever want to get back to the factory setup. Backup your data.
Obtain a copy of whatever OS you want to install. If it's Windows
you'll have to purchase it. Install your desired OS. During the
install delete all the partitions on the hard drive and create new
ones. Install your programs. Restore your data. It's alost impossible to
get rid of all the crap HP installs by any
other method. I have spent hours trying to remove it all with only
partial success.

"They collect royalites/spiffs/kickbacks from other companies...for
installing this stuff on new pc's."

That much I knew.

"They want to make sure it's hard to uninstall."

That I didn't know. Can't wait 'til I buy my next PC. sardonic laugh
Thanks for the warning.
---
Ted Zieglar
"Backup is a computer user's best friend."

Kerry Brown wrote:
It would be possible to remove most and possibly all of the unwanted crap
but when something goes wrong and you need to reinstall Windows a repair
install cannot be done from the restore media and using the restore media
would put all the crap back on. You would have to go through the whole
process again. I wasn't able to remove everything from a new HP system after
several hours of labour. I spent more time trying to cleanup a brand new
system than it takes to clean most spyware infected systems. I came to the
conclusion that it was much cheaper and better in the long run to purchase
Windows and do a clean install. This is only with large OEM consumer
products. Their products aimed at the business/enterprise market don't have
all this crap installed from the factory. Note this is not particular to
HP/Compaq. Most consumer (low priced) systems from large OEMs have the same
problem. Some like Dell and Gateway will supply Windows media if requested
so you don't have to purchase a full retail version of Windows to do this.
HP/Compaq, eMachines, and others will not supply Windows media only restore
media. There is a reason some pc's are cheaper than others. They collect
royalites/spiffs/kickbacks from other companies, some of them known spyware,
for installing this stuff on new pc's. They want to make sure it's hard to
uninstall.

START - SETTINGS - CONTROL PANEL (open) - ADD or REMOVE PROGRAMS

Highlight program you want to remove. Click on REMOVE.

Ritter197 wrote:

What do you mean?


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"Ritter197" wrote in message
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I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on a new
computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD dual core 64,
1 GHZ RAM.

It does slow down start up a lot.

Start\Control Panel\Add & Delete.
It`s easy really % }.
HTH.

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news:cKI1h.6864$d95.2139@trnddc08...
I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that HP puts on a new
computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is running windows xp SP2, AMD dual core 64, 1
GHZ RAM.

You might try the PC De-Crapifier.
http://www.yorkspace.com/pc-de-crapifier/


It does slow down start up a lot

Ritter197 here,
I would like to know how to get rid of all the stuff that
HP puts on a new computer.(HPa1610n, 4400+) It is
running windows xp SP2, AMD dual core 64,
1 GHZ RAM. It does slow down start up a lot.

If it were my computer I would either install an oem
version of xp64 not the 32 bit version or waite until
vista comes out with the 64 bit version of that. Since
xp64 has its' own set of problems (it is getting better)
I would probably just clean the computer for now
and get the 64 bit version of vista when it comes out
in a few months. Actually I would probably wipe it
and install Ubuntu 6.10 Desktop AMD64 version
but that's another discussion.

later,
charles.....