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Old October 12th 16, 12:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is there a go-slow on providing Windows updates for Win 7?

Given that patch Tuesday was yesterday, I tried - yesterday evening and
today morning - to update Windows 7 (Pro) through the regular channel.
After an hour-and-a half, nothing. Still "Checking for updates ... ".

Have I missed something? Has MS declared a moratorium on Win 7 updates,
because I have refused to 'upgrade'?
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Old October 12th 16, 12:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is there a go-slow on providing Windows updates for Win 7?

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:16:14 +0200, occam wrote:

Given that patch Tuesday was yesterday, I tried - yesterday evening and
today morning - to update Windows 7 (Pro) through the regular channel.
After an hour-and-a half, nothing. Still "Checking for updates ... ".

Have I missed something? Has MS declared a moratorium on Win 7 updates,
because I have refused to 'upgrade'?


It seems to be some devious way being used to get W7 users onto W10.
It hasn't worked on me! There was some security update a few weeks ago
for W7 but that's the last I've seen.

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Old October 12th 16, 01:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is there a go-slow on providing Windows updates for Win 7?

occam wrote:
Given that patch Tuesday was yesterday, I tried - yesterday evening and
today morning - to update Windows 7 (Pro) through the regular channel.
After an hour-and-a half, nothing. Still "Checking for updates ... ".

Have I missed something? Has MS declared a moratorium on Win 7 updates,
because I have refused to 'upgrade'?


You can use MBSA 2.3 if you want to check for security updates.
MBSA runs in a variety of Windows OSes. Being a Baseline Security
Analyzer, it checks for missing Security Updates, and does not
consider the Optional ones at all.

http://s12.postimg.org/4df2ka8bh/mbsa.gif

*******

As for manually repairing Windows 7 so Windows Update
responds in five minutes, the recipe must be verified
after each Patch Tuesday. So the results of my last
test are now invalid.

In Internet Explorer, you can visit links like this,
to get security updates.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3020369
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172605

The first one is the April 2015 Servicing Stack. If the second
update says "Not Applicable", you install 369 first. The '605
has a patch for Windows Update, but it really shouldn't fix
anything. Each month it must be tested for new symptoms.
And '605 could be removed from the server at any time.
They removed the previous version of that one.

The bug/root cause for this behavior, has existed since
WinXP, so it's been around a long long time.

The description for what is in '605 is here. The '605
has more than one patch inside, and this is one of them.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3161647

"An optimization that addresses long scan time
for updates that's reported on some computers."

This is, of course, a lie. The optimization must
occur at the Microsoft end, by editing the
150MB manifest file and fixing the damn thing.
And that's why I've concluded the behavior will
remain variable, and change after each Patch Tuesday.

*******

If you sit on your hands for 8 to 12 hours and do nothing,
the window with the information will eventually appear.

Good luck,
Paul



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Old October 12th 16, 02:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is there a go-slow on providing Windows updates for Win 7?

In article , says...

Given that patch Tuesday was yesterday, I tried - yesterday evening and
today morning - to update Windows 7 (Pro) through the regular channel.
After an hour-and-a half, nothing. Still "Checking for updates ... ".

Have I missed something? Has MS declared a moratorium on Win 7 updates,
because I have refused to 'upgrade'?


The slow update is the same reason it has been for several months. One
of the updates involves updating the kernel drivers. Unless you have
applied the June or July optional rollups, which were also available as
a recommended update in September, Windows Update has not been updated
to fix the bug. With the rollup update, Windows Update no longer hangs
trying to process the kernel drivers.

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Old October 12th 16, 08:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is there a go-slow on providing Windows updates for Win 7?

On 12/10/2016 14:38, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-12 07:16, occam wrote:
Given that patch Tuesday was yesterday, I tried - yesterday evening and
today morning - to update Windows 7 (Pro) through the regular channel.
After an hour-and-a half, nothing. Still "Checking for updates ... ".

Have I missed something? Has MS declared a moratorium on Win 7 updates,
because I have refused to 'upgrade'?


This may be an after-effect of not following the Fix W7 Update Hang advice.

This worked for me. I don't know whether it will work after October 11:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...6b36d0c?auth=1



Thanks Wolf and Paul

The solution worked, even today 12 Oct. Windows Update is downloading 5
updates as I write.


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Old October 13th 16, 12:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is there a go-slow on providing Windows updates for Win 7?

occam wrote:
On 12/10/2016 14:38, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-12 07:16, occam wrote:
Given that patch Tuesday was yesterday, I tried - yesterday evening and
today morning - to update Windows 7 (Pro) through the regular channel.
After an hour-and-a half, nothing. Still "Checking for updates ... ".

Have I missed something? Has MS declared a moratorium on Win 7 updates,
because I have refused to 'upgrade'?

This may be an after-effect of not following the Fix W7 Update Hang advice.

This worked for me. I don't know whether it will work after October 11:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...6b36d0c?auth=1



Thanks Wolf and Paul

The solution worked, even today 12 Oct. Windows Update is downloading 5
updates as I write.



I tested a clean Win7 SP1 install, and after '369 and '605
are installed, Windows Update appears after 5 minutes 19 seconds.
So the method is still working well enough to use for
the month of October.

Paul
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Old October 13th 16, 12:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Is there a go-slow on providing Windows updates for Win 7?

On 10/12/2016 7:16 PM, occam wrote:
Given that patch Tuesday was yesterday, I tried - yesterday evening and
today morning - to update Windows 7 (Pro) through the regular channel.
After an hour-and-a half, nothing. Still "Checking for updates ... ".

Have I missed something? Has MS declared a moratorium on Win 7 updates,
because I have refused to 'upgrade'?


Try installing KB3172605 first!

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...6b36d0c?auth=1

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