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Old October 7th 16, 09:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
lew
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Default Can we trust the "update history"?

Prior to the anniversery update, my bootup pic/wallpaper was from a
photo. After the AU, the bootup pic was either a scene of the seashore
viewed from a cave or a covered suspension bridge. Then after an
cumalative update, a head & shower figure was added with no "update
history" listed; then sometime later my original bootup pic which
was from win 7 & 8 took the place of the black figure & no trace of an
update as per the "update history".

Today, the bootup pic/wallpaper returned to what was used in
win 7 & 8; NO "update history" for the action.

Looks like windows 10 is messing around with the system when it is
running & looks like changes are made even if there is no update
or patch involved. Or is it some changes are not recorded?
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Old October 7th 16, 10:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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lew wrote:

Looks like windows 10 is messing around with the system when it is
running & looks like changes are made even if there is no update
or patch involved. Or is it some changes are not recorded?


Changes to wallpaper aren't updates to your system, they're only content
so won't show in history, they're just part of a slowly changing
slideshow from Windows Spotlight ...




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Old October 7th 16, 10:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 07-Oct-2016 4:07 PM, lew wrote:
Prior to the anniversery update, my bootup pic/wallpaper was from a
photo. After the AU, the bootup pic was either a scene of the seashore
viewed from a cave or a covered suspension bridge. Then after an
cumalative update, a head & shower figure was added with no "update
history" listed; then sometime later my original bootup pic which
was from win 7 & 8 took the place of the black figure & no trace of an
update as per the "update history".

Today, the bootup pic/wallpaper returned to what was used in
win 7 & 8; NO "update history" for the action.

Looks like windows 10 is messing around with the system when it is
running & looks like changes are made even if there is no update
or patch involved. Or is it some changes are not recorded?


Go to setting/personalization and set "Background" and "Lock screen" to
"picture" instead of "slideshow" then you will always have the same
picture showing.
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Old October 7th 16, 11:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Can we trust the "update history"?

lew wrote:
Prior to the anniversery update, my bootup pic/wallpaper was from a
photo. After the AU, the bootup pic was either a scene of the seashore
viewed from a cave or a covered suspension bridge. Then after an
cumalative update, a head & shower figure was added with no "update
history" listed; then sometime later my original bootup pic which
was from win 7 & 8 took the place of the black figure & no trace of an
update as per the "update history".

Today, the bootup pic/wallpaper returned to what was used in
win 7 & 8; NO "update history" for the action.

Looks like windows 10 is messing around with the system when it is
running & looks like changes are made even if there is no update
or patch involved. Or is it some changes are not recorded?


The lock screen is also considered a prime candidate for
advertising. So count your blessings.

In some cases, you will be presented with a brand new
picture, and a tiny text prompt on the picture will
say "Do you like this".

So yes, the lock screen is a play toy.

And you can get all sorts of notifications,
like "Get Office 365" or similar. If you actually
bought App Store applications, you might even get
advertising for "similar" software products.

*******

On the Windows 10 Insider edition, the Update History
is mostly blank. That's because whole OS upgrades come
in on that one, and wipe the history.

The Release version of Windows 10 can have security
patches listed in the Update History. So there should
be a short list of stuff there. Any attempts at
advertising, won't be logged.

You may not know it, but 300MB worth of computer
advertisements sit on your C: drive. But so far, they
haven't attempted to sell me a Surface tablet, using
that collateral material. There is some garbage of
that type on the machine, but it hasn't been pushed.

Windows 10 is considered to be a giant billboard.

Paul
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Old October 7th 16, 11:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:21:37 -0400, Paul
wrote:


You may not know it, but 300MB worth of computer
advertisements sit on your C: drive.



You say that as if 300 MB is a big number. Yes, it's a big number if
you're talking about most things, but not if you're talking about disk
space. At today HD prices, when a 2TB drive is around $50 USD, 300 MB
is worth around 3/4 of a penny.
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Old October 8th 16, 12:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:21:37 -0400, Paul
wrote:


You may not know it, but 300MB worth of computer
advertisements sit on your C: drive.



You say that as if 300 MB is a big number. Yes, it's a big number if
you're talking about most things, but not if you're talking about disk
space. At today HD prices, when a 2TB drive is around $50 USD, 300 MB
is worth around 3/4 of a penny.


The advertising material is more life-style stuff,
with pictures of teens chewing gum and using their
tablets. And of course you need lots and lots
of pictures like that, to sell stuff. I always
buy stuff, where attractive people are shown
using the product. By buying such a product,
I can be attractive too :-)

Of course those materials don't belong on an OS
drive but what are ya goona do.

I see the folder "RetailDemo" on the Insider
edition, but not on the Release edition, unless
I already deleted it from the Release one...

Paul
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Old October 8th 16, 02:20 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
lew
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Default Can we trust the "update history"?

On 2016-10-07, Sergey wrote:
On 07-Oct-2016 4:07 PM, lew wrote:
Prior to the anniversery update, my bootup pic/wallpaper was from a
photo. After the AU, the bootup pic was either a scene of the seashore
viewed from a cave or a covered suspension bridge. Then after an
cumalative update, a head & shower figure was added with no "update
history" listed; then sometime later my original bootup pic which
was from win 7 & 8 took the place of the black figure & no trace of an
update as per the "update history".

Today, the bootup pic/wallpaper returned to what was used in
win 7 & 8; NO "update history" for the action.

Looks like windows 10 is messing around with the system when it is
running & looks like changes are made even if there is no update
or patch involved. Or is it some changes are not recorded?


Go to setting/personalization and set "Background" and "Lock screen" to
"picture" instead of "slideshow" then you will always have the same
picture showing.


Thanks. I guess I missed that default change as I never had slideshow
on as far as I know; always thought that it was for people with a
family & so does a slideshow & so I had turned slide off.

Another default change for me to check on each update.
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Old October 8th 16, 02:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-10-07 6:44 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:21:37 -0400, Paul
wrote:


You may not know it, but 300MB worth of computer advertisements
sit on your C: drive.



You say that as if 300 MB is a big number. Yes, it's a big number
if you're talking about most things, but not if you're talking
about disk space. At today HD prices, when a 2TB drive is around
$50 USD, 300 MB is worth around 3/4 of a penny.


I still remember being a 12 year-old and thinking that I was so cool
because I had a 30MB HD in 1991.

Little did I know how quickly things would change after that...


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Old October 8th 16, 06:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/08/2016 08:55 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:

[snip]

I still remember being a 12 year-old and thinking that I was so cool
because I had a 30MB HD in 1991.


IIRC, my first HD was a 10MB Rodime I called "Huge".

[snip]

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Old October 8th 16, 08:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Silver Slimer wrote:

You may not know it, but 300MB worth of computer advertisements
sit on your C: drive.


You say that as if 300 MB is a big number. Yes, it's a big number
if you're talking about most things, but not if you're talking
about disk space. At today HD prices, when a 2TB drive is around
$50 USD, 300 MB is worth around 3/4 of a penny.


I still remember being a 12 year-old and thinking that I was so cool
because I had a 30MB HD in 1991.


Little did I know how quickly things would change after that...


Same here with my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz's HDD. 30 MB! And then, I
bought Stacker software, without its hardware card, to increase its
disk space virtually. :P
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Old October 8th 16, 10:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-10-08 3:56 PM, Ant wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote:

You may not know it, but 300MB worth of computer
advertisements sit on your C: drive.

You say that as if 300 MB is a big number. Yes, it's a big
number if you're talking about most things, but not if you're
talking about disk space. At today HD prices, when a 2TB drive
is around $50 USD, 300 MB is worth around 3/4 of a penny.


I still remember being a 12 year-old and thinking that I was so
cool because I had a 30MB HD in 1991.


Little did I know how quickly things would change after that...


Same here with my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz's HDD. 30 MB! And
then, I bought Stacker software, without its hardware card, to
increase its disk space virtually. :P


It's funny that you should mention that because the computer I had a
30MB HD on was the first IBM PS/1. My uncle had a Model 30 though but
only had 20MB on it which inevitably means that he wasn't as cool as
you were.

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Old October 8th 16, 10:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/08/2016 02:56 PM, Ant wrote:

[snip]

Same here with my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz's HDD. 30 MB! And then, I
bought Stacker software, without its hardware card, to increase its
disk space virtually. :P


Do you remember how much capacity increase you got? I remember that with
disk compression, I'd get a lot less than the doubling they claimed.

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In Ottawa the xians put up an "abortion stills a beating heart" poster
outside the local abortion clinic. Someone wrote over it:

"A christian
with a gun stills a beating heart."
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Old October 8th 16, 10:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/08/2016 04:15 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:

[snip]

It's funny that you should mention that because the computer I had a
30MB HD on was the first IBM PS/1. My uncle had a Model 30 though but
only had 20MB on it which inevitably means that he wasn't as cool as
you were.


I remember buying a computer in about 1990, and a 30MB HD cost only a
little more than 20MB. IIRC, the physical drive was the same, just a
different controller.

BTW, that controller happened to be incompatible with 386 protected mode.

[snip]

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78 days until the winter celebration (Sunday December 25, 2016 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

In Ottawa the xians put up an "abortion stills a beating heart" poster
outside the local abortion clinic. Someone wrote over it:

"A christian
with a gun stills a beating heart."
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Old October 9th 16, 03:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/8/2016 at 5:50 PM, Mark Lloyd's prodigious digits fired off:
On 10/08/2016 04:15 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:

[snip]

It's funny that you should mention that because the computer I had a
30MB HD on was the first IBM PS/1. My uncle had a Model 30 though but
only had 20MB on it which inevitably means that he wasn't as cool as
you were.


I remember buying a computer in about 1990, and a 30MB HD cost only a
little more than 20MB. IIRC, the physical drive was the same, just a
different controller.

BTW, that controller happened to be incompatible with 386 protected mode.

[snip]


Hah! In about 1986 I had a Xebec external hard drive, 20 Mb, that was
as big as a modern tower computer. Hmm. Could be wrong but I think it
was a SCSI interface. The drive was at least twice the size of the
"laptop" it was connected to.

Dang. The good old days. When men were measured by the size of their
peripherals. :-D

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Old October 9th 16, 05:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 10/08/2016 02:56 PM, Ant wrote:

[snip]

Same here with my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz's HDD. 30 MB! And then, I
bought Stacker software, without its hardware card, to increase its
disk space virtually. :P


Do you remember how much capacity increase you got? I remember that with
disk compression, I'd get a lot less than the doubling they claimed.


Take a file filled with random bytes and compress it.

How much did it compress ?

*******

Get a copy of "dd".

http://www.chrysocome.net/

http://www.chrysocome.net/downloads/dd-0.6beta3.zip

Unpack it in a scratch folder, and run this from
a Command Prompt window. This will make a 1GB file
containing pseudo-random bytes of data.

dd if=/dev/random of=big.bin bs=1048576 count=1024

Next, I use the 7Zip 7Z compressor set to Ultra
and these are the results.

big.bin 1,073,741,824 bytes (input)
big.7z 1,073,798,899 bytes (compressed output)

The compressed file ended up being a bit bigger!

Now you can see why the Stacker statement
is a statistical one, involving an industry
average file mix. Text might compress 3:1,
movies not at all.

*******

NTFS Compression is still available today,
and when you prep a data partition (with 4K
NTFS clusters), you can enable compression
and see how effective it is. It's a "mild"
compressor, maybe as good as LZO or something.
Don't expect miracles. If you have a partition
with movies, well, enabling that would be
a waste of your time.

In modern times, hardly any content is compressible
any more. Because the file format itself may have
included forms of compression of its own.

You will find modern movie formats don't compress
all that well. Internally, a modern movie format is
compressed 100:1 compared to the original uncompressed
content. The compression method is lossy, and when
the movie is uncompressed, it does not match
pixel for pixel, what was shot in the camera.
For example, if you use the MJPEG CODEC, there
can be numerical ringing on the edges of sharp
objects, and this is a form of "loss" during
compression.

Paul
 




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