Microsoft set to reveal the future for Windows 10 on October 26

Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
hasn't alienated users to the same degree Windows 8.x did, it hasn't
been universally embraced in the same way that Windows 7 was either.
Part of the reason for that can be laid squarely at Microsoft's door --
the company's overly aggressive push to get people to upgrade meant a
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...
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On 8/10/16 09:48, JEMM wrote:
Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
hasn't alienated users to the same degree Windows 8.x did, it hasn't
been universally embraced in the same way that Windows 7 was either.
Part of the reason for that can be laid squarely at Microsoft's door --
the company's overly aggressive push to get people to upgrade meant a
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...

I only wanted Android apps running!

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On 10/8/2016 9:01 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2016-10-07 21:48, JEMM wrote:
Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
hasn't alienated users to the same degree Windows 8.x did,

Win 8 is a bugfix for Win7. Win 8.1 is a bugfix for Win8. I added
ModernMix for the classic GUI, and it works just fine.

it hasn't
been universally embraced in the same way that Windows 7 was either.
Part of the reason for that can be laid squarely at Microsoft's door --
the company's overly aggressive push to get people to upgrade meant a
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...
[Continue Reading]

http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/Zgrfjs8-_Ic/

Biggest issue: loss of control of key functions, chief of which is
update. That's a deal breaker for me. Even ordinary users are annoyed by
that. OTOH, if all you want is The Big Four (TBF), plus one or two
specialised programs, it works just fine. Friends'n'relations who've
bought brand new machines in the last year or so have no complaints.
(TBF: email, web surfing, writing, photo/video-viewing.)

That's my 1.6 cents worth. :-0

+1

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Microsoft advertising posted by an online
"journalist" desperate for a story.

On 8/10/16 21:54, Mayayana wrote:

Microsoft advertising posted by an online
"journalist" desperate for a story.

Micro$oft is a *RELIGION*!

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JEMM wrote:

Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
hasn't alienated users to the same degree Windows 8.x did, it hasn't
been universally embraced in the same way that Windows 7 was either.
Part of the reason for that can be laid squarely at Microsoft's door --
the company's overly aggressive push to get people to upgrade meant a
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...
[Continue Reading]

http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/Zgrfjs8-_Ic/

W10? A good operating system? Unquestionably? I question that.

Stef

On 10/8/2016 at 11:28 AM, Stef's prodigious digits fired off:
JEMM wrote:

Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
hasn't alienated users to the same degree Windows 8.x did, it hasn't
been universally embraced in the same way that Windows 7 was either.
Part of the reason for that can be laid squarely at Microsoft's door --
the company's overly aggressive push to get people to upgrade meant a
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...
[Continue Reading]

http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/Zgrfjs8-_Ic/

W10? A good operating system? Unquestionably? I question that.

Stef


It's working at least as good as W7 for me, perhaps even better.

Anyway, what's the crieria?

W10 doesn't crash. But neither did W7. It works. I leave my systems
on for weeks at a time with nary a problem. And I tweak and trouble my
systems all the time.

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you're just sitting there, staring at carpeting?

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 10/8/2016 at 11:28 AM, Stef's prodigious digits fired off:
JEMM wrote:

Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
hasn't alienated users to the same degree Windows 8.x did, it hasn't
been universally embraced in the same way that Windows 7 was either.
Part of the reason for that can be laid squarely at Microsoft's door --
the company's overly aggressive push to get people to upgrade meant a
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...
[Continue Reading]

http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/Zgrfjs8-_Ic/

W10? A good operating system? Unquestionably? I question that.

Stef


It's working at least as good as W7 for me, perhaps even better.

Anyway, what's the crieria?

W10 doesn't crash. But neither did W7. It works. I leave my systems
on for weeks at a time with nary a problem. And I tweak and trouble my
systems all the time.

Same here. No problems with Win 10. It runs as well as Win 7 and maybe
better on all of my systems. I have all of the updates and am currently
on Version 14393.222

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/8/2016 at 11:28 AM, Stef's prodigious digits fired off:
JEMM wrote:

Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
hasn't alienated users to the same degree Windows 8.x did, it hasn't
been universally embraced in the same way that Windows 7 was either.
Part of the reason for that can be laid squarely at Microsoft's door --
the company's overly aggressive push to get people to upgrade meant a
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...
[Continue Reading]

http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/Zgrfjs8-_Ic/

W10? A good operating system? Unquestionably? I question that.

Stef


It's working at least as good as W7 for me, perhaps even better.

Anyway, what's the crieria?

Without going into lengthy explanations: First and foremost,
Stability and Security, Reliability, Efficiency, Configuriability,
Consistency, Timely Support. These are not all my requirements, but are
the major ones. Windows, any Windows -- some more than others, has
never been able to fully satisfy those minimum criteria reliably. They
are always breaking (or being broken) in one way or the other. I spent
lots of time over the years fixing friends Windows systems. I should
have started a side business. ;-)

W10 doesn't crash. But neither did W7. It works. I leave my systems
on for weeks at a time with nary a problem. And I tweak and trouble my
systems all the time.


Many are not so lucky, and have had nothing but problems. I've
discovered those who've had the most are those whose systems were
upgraded from a previous Windows, especially unknowingly. Seems those
with the least problems are those who bought a new system with W10
preinstalled, and made few, if any, changes to it.

Hope your good luck continues.

Stef

Stef wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/8/2016 at 11:28 AM, Stef's prodigious digits fired off:
JEMM wrote:

Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
hasn't alienated users to the same degree Windows 8.x did, it hasn't
been universally embraced in the same way that Windows 7 was either.
Part of the reason for that can be laid squarely at Microsoft's door --
the company's overly aggressive push to get people to upgrade meant a
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...
[Continue Reading]

http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/Zgrfjs8-_Ic/
W10? A good operating system? Unquestionably? I question that.

Stef

It's working at least as good as W7 for me, perhaps even better.

Anyway, what's the crieria?

Without going into lengthy explanations: First and foremost,
Stability and Security, Reliability, Efficiency, Configuriability,
Consistency, Timely Support. These are not all my requirements, but are
the major ones. Windows, any Windows -- some more than others, has
never been able to fully satisfy those minimum criteria reliably. They
are always breaking (or being broken) in one way or the other. I spent
lots of time over the years fixing friends Windows systems. I should
have started a side business. ;-)

W10 doesn't crash. But neither did W7. It works. I leave my systems
on for weeks at a time with nary a problem. And I tweak and trouble my
systems all the time.


Many are not so lucky, and have had nothing but problems. I've
discovered those who've had the most are those whose systems were
upgraded from a previous Windows, especially unknowingly. Seems those
with the least problems are those who bought a new system with W10
preinstalled, and made few, if any, changes to it.

Hope your good luck continues.

Stef

If you want a test case, install ImageMagick Q16 x64 on
Win10 x64, load a very large image into it, and watch
Win10 "freeze". So you can stop it. While I was testing
that, I was power cycling the machine, something I *hate*
to do. Because Task Manager didn't work, and I was out of
options. The "workaround" is to set the preferences so
the OpenMP library in ImageMagick, can only open
one thread of execution. Then the program stops nicely
with an "out of memory" error. But if the OpenMP library
starts multiple threads requesting memory at the same time,
Win10 has a **** right on the spot :-)

If you think it's stable, you haven't tried enough
test cases. And I wasn't trying on purpose to break it
or anything. I was looking for a program to open
a big file (might have been Photoshop "Big" format .psb),
and that was one program on a list to try. By
comparison, Irfanview behaved normally when used
for the same purpose. (It either opens the file for
viewing, or it declared an out of memory condition.)

*******

On my Win10 Release install, file sharing is working
fine today.

On Win10 Insider 14942, file sharing is completely broken.
Neither direction works. On 14936 file sharing was broken
in one direction. Now it's completely toast. So yes, the
Release version looks like "sweetness and light" today
by comparison.

You don't *ever* let users see this kind of
brokenness. It's bad for business, and just
the fact I'm writing this up and besmirching
the reputation of the product, tells you why
you don't "use the Internet as a replacement
for the QA team". That's how you get a bad
name for yourself. The idea of Insider test,
is to test something that is stable enough,
that the developers themselves would actually
dogfood it. How could a developer use 14942
to get his/her job done ? They couldn't. They'd
be cheating and using the Release version.
Scumbags.

My Logitech 9000Pro webcam still isn't working
right on the Release version, but I suppose
that will never be fixed. It used to work in
10586, fully functional.

Paul

On 10/8/2016 9:48 AM, JEMM wrote:
... Windows 10 is, it's fair to say, a bit of a divisive product. While it
lot of users were put off before they'd even given the new OS a chance.
Windows 10 is, unquestionably, a good operating system though, and
recent changes in the Anniversary Update, and weekly Windows Insider...
[Continue Reading]

http://feeds.betanews.com/~r/bn/~3/Zgrfjs8-_Ic/


BTW, the next major update was codenamed Redstone 2! And there should be
Redstone 3 as well.

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