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Old October 10th 16, 05:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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I bought my current computer (Sony Vaio) in 2010, running win 7
Ultimate. It's had a couple of failures this year, the Blu-ray and SSD
drives have had to be exchanged.

The repair people said it's sometimes difficult to get replacement
parts because of the computer's ago.

So .... this might be a good time to buy a new, all singing, all
dancing machine, running win 10.

I didn't buy a win 8 machine because of the negative opinions people
have expressed about that OS.

My question really is - is it safe to use Win 10? Are there any major
negative points/pitfalls with this latest MS system?

I see somebody posted about "telemetry", basically spyware. Is it
possible to disable this, or is it always a feature?

I have Macrium Reflect backup. Would this help me migrate applications
to the new computer, or would I end up installing 30 or 40
applications manually?

Thanks for answers.
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Old October 10th 16, 05:44 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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I bought my current computer (Sony Vaio) in 2010, running win 7
Ultimate. It's had a couple of failures this year, the Blu-ray and SSD
drives have had to be exchanged.

The repair people said it's sometimes difficult to get replacement
parts because of the computer's ago.

So .... this might be a good time to buy a new, all singing, all
dancing machine, running win 10.

I didn't buy a win 8 machine because of the negative opinions people
have expressed about that OS.

My question really is - is it safe to use Win 10? Are there any major
negative points/pitfalls with this latest MS system?

I see somebody posted about "telemetry", basically spyware. Is it
possible to disable this, or is it always a feature?

I have Macrium Reflect backup. Would this help me migrate applications
to the new computer, or would I end up installing 30 or 40
applications manually?

Thanks for answers.


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good for you and saves money.

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Old October 10th 16, 07:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default migrating from win 7 to win 10

In article ,
lid says...

I bought my current computer (Sony Vaio) in 2010, running win 7
Ultimate. It's had a couple of failures this year, the Blu-ray and SSD
drives have had to be exchanged.


Not unexpected.

The repair people said it's sometimes difficult to get replacement
parts because of the computer's ago.


Standard compenents so shouldn't be except the plastic around the disk
drive if it's some fancier design. At worst plastic can be taken off if
cosmetics not an issue. An SSD drive is basically an SSD drive, they're
all more or less the same, have to be.


So .... this might be a good time to buy a new, all singing, all
dancing machine, running win 10.


Up to you and your wallet.


I didn't buy a win 8 machine because of the negative opinions people
have expressed about that OS.


Some of it's fair some not. What MS collects for data rubs a lot of
people the wrong way or more importamtly the fact MS seems to feel it
has a right to that info I think is what really irks people, does me.

My question really is - is it safe to use Win 10? Are there any major
negative points/pitfalls with this latest MS system?


Of my 9 pcs one runs Win10, Seems ok and works ok.


I see somebody posted about "telemetry", basically spyware. Is it
possible to disable this, or is it always a feature?


Not extirely unless you disconnect pc from internet, that stops it.


I have Macrium Reflect backup. Would this help me migrate applications
to the new computer, or would I end up installing 30 or 40
applications manually?


No, that'll only get you back what you already have. Do an upgrade
install or clean install and reinstall apps. Note - some apps may need
to be reinstalled regardless of method used.


Thanks for answers.


First thing to do is go to Somy's site and insure pc can be updated,
e.g. that drivers are available for everything.
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Old October 10th 16, 09:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 17:39:06 +0100, lid wrote:

I bought my current computer (Sony Vaio) in 2010, running win 7
Ultimate. It's had a couple of failures this year, the Blu-ray and SSD
drives have had to be exchanged.

The repair people said it's sometimes difficult to get replacement
parts because of the computer's ago.



That's generally not correct. You may not be able to get exactly the
same parts, but you should almost certainly be able to get
functionally equivalent parts.

Who are these repair people? What company? If it's the Geek Squad (or
any other big box store), don't trust anything they tell you. They are
the worst places to take a computer for service or advice.


So .... this might be a good time to buy a new, all singing, all
dancing machine, running win 10.

I didn't buy a win 8 machine because of the negative opinions people
have expressed about that OS.

My question really is - is it safe to use Win 10? Are there any major
negative points/pitfalls with this latest MS system?



You will get different opinions from different people. I find Window
10 to be fine on both the machines here. But I do recommend that if
you get a Windows 10 machine you run it with either the $4.99 Start10
(which I think is better and I use) or the free Classic Shell, which
is also good, but not as good as Start10.

Many people hate Windows 10, but that's usually because Microsoft has
done a poor job of letting everyone know about the choices of
interface it comes with. That's the same reason many people
unjustifiably hated Windows 8.

And by the way, although Microsoft chose to give it a new name,
Windows 10 is essentially just the newest version of Windows 8. Think
of 8.1 as a service pack to 8, and 10 as a second service pack.


I see somebody posted about "telemetry", basically spyware. Is it
possible to disable this, or is it always a feature?



You can disable all of it.


I have Macrium Reflect backup. Would this help me migrate applications
to the new computer, or would I end up installing 30 or 40
applications manually?




You will have to reinstall your applications from their original
media. Regardless of what version or versions of Windows they run, you
can not move programs from one computer to another. There is an
occasional small simple program that you can simply copy over, but
they are few and far between.
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Old October 10th 16, 11:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In message ,
lid writes
I bought my current computer (Sony Vaio) in 2010, running win 7
Ultimate. It's had a couple of failures this year, the Blu-ray and SSD
drives have had to be exchanged.

The repair people said it's sometimes difficult to get replacement
parts because of the computer's ago.


It was a long time ago, but I had a Sony Vaio once. I swore I would
never buy one again. I couldn't get information, drivers or much else in
the way of specific bits for it.
It had a weird bug - something to do with the scrolling on all text
screens. I finally got through to a service department (in Ireland) and
after a lot of discussion the person there dug out a similar machine and
said "Yes it does it here, too".
I suggested someone should report this up the chain, but he said I would
have to ring head office in the UK. I did this and was referred through
various different people until, with the final call, I found myself
talking to the nice Irishman again.

W10 is generally OK as long as you don't do anything specialised, but
the enforced upgrades are a major issue and the deal killer here for my
main machines. Only yesterday, I was rung by a writer friend who
sometimes writes obits for major newspapers (which have to be produced
and filed with the paper almost instantly). He had switched on his
machine to write something and it had immediately gone into update mode.
He was ringing me after 3 hours to ask how much longer it would take. I
gather he had missed the deadline.
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Old October 10th 16, 11:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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lid wrote:
I bought my current computer (Sony Vaio) in 2010, running win 7
Ultimate. It's had a couple of failures this year, the Blu-ray and SSD
drives have had to be exchanged.

The repair people said it's sometimes difficult to get replacement
parts because of the computer's ago.

So .... this might be a good time to buy a new, all singing, all
dancing machine, running win 10.

I didn't buy a win 8 machine because of the negative opinions people
have expressed about that OS.

My question really is - is it safe to use Win 10? Are there any major
negative points/pitfalls with this latest MS system?

I see somebody posted about "telemetry", basically spyware. Is it
possible to disable this, or is it always a feature?

I have Macrium Reflect backup. Would this help me migrate applications
to the new computer, or would I end up installing 30 or 40
applications manually?

Thanks for answers.


Windows 10 is a rolling release. Microsoft
reserves the right to break any functionality
they want, whenever they want. (Ask my webcam,
why it isn't working today.)

Windows 8.1 has a fixed feature set. And will
have, until the end of support in 2023. Just turn
off Windows Update when you get the machine, and
they cannot monkey with it any more. The Windows
Update controls actually work. You can leave it in
the "Do not check for Updates" state.

Functionally, the OSes are about the same, the
difference being that Windows 8.1 should be
fully working when you get it.

The Windows 8.1 menu is not bad, once you realize the
menu scrolls down and/or to the right, and much more
tile-like icons and entries await.

And it's not "Telemetry" exactly that bothers me
on these OSes. It's seeing the LAN LED flashing
like crazy, and not knowing WTF is going on. There
is one flavor of updates that can be done
outside of Windows Update (no log entry), and
that is reserved for Tile applications.

I *hate* ****ty behavior like that. I want to
*push a maintenance button* and *see a response*.
I don't want the machine running amok while
I'm trying to compose my thoughts. It breaks
your concentration, when the machine is playing
with itself.

To me, a flashing LED on the LAN,
when I didn't ask it to do that, is a sign of
trouble. And must be investigated to determine
whether "friend" or "foe". Is it ransomware
encrypting all my user files, when I see the
disk light flashing, or is it a scheduled
Defragmenter run ? Microsoft isn't going to
cough up a perfect set of files, if ransomware
gets me. I'm on my own, if I drop my guard
and stuff happens. Microsoft won't care.

So while the computer is nominally "self-maintaining"
(like a self-driving car), I'm still staring out
the window, ready to step on the brake if the
car is about to run over a pedestrian. And I
don't need the thrills and chills, thanks.

Paul
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Old October 11th 16, 02:12 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:57:36 -0700 "Ken Blake"
wrote in article
You will have to reinstall your applications from their original
media. Regardless of what version or versions of Windows they run, you
can not move programs from one computer to another. There is an
occasional small simple program that you can simply copy over, but
they are few and far between.



When I ran the free Win 10 upgrade on two machines, Win 7 home & pro, the
installation process migrated my files -and- apps almost without a hitch.
If the OP buys a new machine with 10 on it already that's not an option I
guess.
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Old October 11th 16, 02:17 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 11/10/2016 02:12, Jason wrote:
If the OP buys a new machine with 10 on it already that's not an option I
guess.


Why do you guess? is it not obvious that a new machine is unlikely to
have his old applications? Are you so dumb that you can't know this
basic facts?


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Old October 11th 16, 02:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 21:12:31 -0400, Jason
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:57:36 -0700 "Ken Blake"
wrote in article
You will have to reinstall your applications from their original
media. Regardless of what version or versions of Windows they run, you
can not move programs from one computer to another. There is an
occasional small simple program that you can simply copy over, but
they are few and far between.



When I ran the free Win 10 upgrade on two machines, Win 7 home & pro, the
installation process migrated my files -and- apps almost without a hitch.



Yes. That's an upgrade, which is different from a clean installation.


If the OP buys a new machine with 10 on it already that's not an option I
guess.




You guess right. Windows upgrades are very different from clean
installations in that regard. That's because almost all programs are
much more than a simple .exe file. A program also has many other files
(.dlls and others) and references to it in the registry and elsewhere.
These are lost if you simply try to move the .exe file.

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Old October 11th 16, 03:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 18:46:25 -0400, Paul wrote:

And it's not "Telemetry" exactly that bothers me
on these OSes. It's seeing the LAN LED flashing
like crazy, and not knowing WTF is going on.


Sounds like Windump (Windows port of tcpdump) could be useful to you. Do
a packet capture to a rolling file, then load the results in Wireshark.
You might be surprised by what you see, or maybe it'll just be boring.

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Old October 11th 16, 03:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 18:46:25 -0400, Paul wrote:

And it's not "Telemetry" exactly that bothers me
on these OSes. It's seeing the LAN LED flashing
like crazy, and not knowing WTF is going on.


Sounds like Windump (Windows port of tcpdump) could be useful to you. Do
a packet capture to a rolling file, then load the results in Wireshark.
You might be surprised by what you see, or maybe it'll just be boring.


For the Tile Update, I did manage to get Wireshark
running in time, to see the source of the download.
But I had to hurry.

Paul
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Old October 11th 16, 02:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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En el artículo , Paul
escribió:

To me, a flashing LED on the LAN,


is it a scheduled
Defragmenter run ?


It's Windows 10 trying to defragment the internet.

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Old October 11th 16, 03:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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The repair people said it's sometimes difficult to get replacement parts
because of the computer's ago.



That's generally not correct. You may not be able to get exactly the
same parts, but you should almost certainly be able to get functionally
equivalent parts.

Who are these repair people? What company? If it's the Geek Squad (or
any other big box store), don't trust anything they tell you. They are
the worst places to take a computer for service or advice.


Wrong, the worst place to seek advice is this NG. Some of it might be
good, some bad and most of it off topic (like this one).
If Good Guy doesn't feel your question worthy he will label you an idiot,
a label that may or may not fit. He will further mis-inform that
windows-10 is only for very intelligent people, ignoring a statement made
long ago by Bill Gates that it was his (Bill Gates) intent to put a
computer in every home, one that any non-technical person can use. I know
a lot of non technical people that use windows-10 without a problem. It's
worst fault is making you wait at start up or shut down while it fiddles
with updates. I have it, use it rarely staying mostly in Linux. I encrypt
any sensitive data and never ever worry about it.
 




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