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Old November 3rd 17, 05:35 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel60
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??

TIA

Daniel
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Old November 3rd 17, 05:59 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 11/2/2017 10:35 PM, Daniel60 wrote:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??

TIA

Daniel


You can cut objects from the Recycle Bin and paste them elsewhere.
However, I am not sure about burning to a CD directly from the Recycle
Bin.

I use a flash drive to archive software installers and the like. I have
756 files, including fonts that were not part of the original
installation of Windows 7 and Mozilla extensions. After I install a new
item or update an existing item, I move the installer, ZIP. or XPI file
to a folder named "To Archive" on my PC. About once a week (just before
backing up my entire system), I move the contents of "To Archive" to my
flash drive. Every so often, I backup the flash drive to an external
hard drive that I store remotely.

However, I do not archive or backup installers for Microsoft updates.
There are just too many of them, and there are far too many that replace
earlier ones that replaced even earlier ones. I know this because I
maintain an inventory, not only of updates that I install but also those
that I reject and those that have been replaced.

All this might seem somewhat obsessive. However, I use to handle
configuration management for very large software systems; and I learned
early that reverting to older versions of software is sometimes very
necessary.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

By allowing employers to eliminate coverage for birth control
from their insurance plans, President Trump has guaranteed there
will be an increase in the demand for abortions.
  #3  
Old November 3rd 17, 07:05 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

Daniel60 wrote:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??

TIA

Daniel


There's a difference between what's on the left of your
desktop, and the folder it uses in Explorer.

https://s1.postimg.org/1b2xctbten/recycle_folder.gif

The thing on the left of your desktop, is "virtual". If you right-click
that icon, you can see the desktop has custom properties and code/logic
behind it.

However, that thing also needs storage.

C:\$Recycle.Bin

holds inside it, a folder called "Recycle Bin". And when
I threw a test file in the trash, that's where it ended up.

C:\$Recycle.Bin\Recycle Bin --- my test.txt was here

*******

Using nfi.exe, you can see the other objects in that
area, are ordinary folders. The "resident" means this one
is so small, it fits into the $MFT entry space and doesn't
need any separate clusters.

File 478
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-2365071439-2178826880-2997811795-1001
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$INDEX_ROOT $I30 (resident)

This is another example. The naming convention of these, suggests
they're SIDs or Security Identifiers. The three clusters of
digits are randomly assigned during an OS installation. The
"1000" at the end, is where the OS starts assigning user
accounts. The number "500" is administrator, and numerically,
it's separated from the regular accounts. You'll notice in this
case, the folder has one cluster (4096 bytes) of storage
just for the folder entry. Which seems strange. The desktop.ini
file inside the folder, is, like on other folders, used
for folder customization when a folder is displayed in
File Explorer. However, attempts to enter these "SID folders",
even using the System account, give Access Denied.

File 15663
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$INDEX_ROOT $I30 (resident)
$INDEX_ALLOCATION $I30 (nonresident)
logical sectors 195384-195391 (0x2fb38-0x2fb3f)
$BITMAP $I30 (resident)

File 15670
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000\desktop.ini
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$DATA (resident)

The "dir" command won't even let me list that part
of the tree (because I haven't figured out yet,
how to place an escape character for the $ that works :-) ).

In any case, none of that really matters. Have a look at

C:\$Recycle.Bin\Recycle Bin

in File Explorer and see if the collection of things to be
backed up is complete.

And be prepared *at any time*, to lose the contents
of the Recycle Bin. Things like this should be
considered volatile in the logical sense. The OS
has no particular reason to care if they get lost.
For example, if you drop a too-large file into
the recycle bin, would a side effect be the
erasure of the contents of the rest of the bin ?
You would have to know the behavior of that bin
in exquisite detail, to avoid costly accidents.
Backups or not.

Doing what you're doing, is just asking for trouble.

But you're not the first person, nor the last
person, to try using the Recycle Bin for non-volatile
storage.

Paul
  #4  
Old November 3rd 17, 09:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Shadow
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 16:35:23 +1100, Daniel60
wrote:

I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??


The trashcan has that symbol because it's for TRASH. Not many
people go back to the trash to see if there's any pizza leftovers from
last week....

Make a "new" folder, "explore" the trash, then simply drag the
files and folders from the trash to your "new" folder. If there are
files/folders with duplicate names, you will have to rename them in
the "new" folder or they will be overwritten. Then make a backup of
the "new" folder.

And never throw pizza in the trash if you intend to eat it
later. Keep it in the fridge.
[]'s
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We have a new policy - Google 2012
  #5  
Old November 3rd 17, 12:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Big Al[_5_]
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 11/03/2017 05:37 AM, Shadow wrote:
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 16:35:23 +1100, Daniel60
wrote:

I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??


The trashcan has that symbol because it's for TRASH. Not many
people go back to the trash to see if there's any pizza leftovers from
last week....

Make a "new" folder, "explore" the trash, then simply drag the
files and folders from the trash to your "new" folder. If there are
files/folders with duplicate names, you will have to rename them in
the "new" folder or they will be overwritten. Then make a backup of
the "new" folder.

And never throw pizza in the trash if you intend to eat it
later. Keep it in the fridge.
[]'s

Besides, tossing files in the trash still leaves them on the HD and
consumes space. You'd be better off must making a folder much like your
thumb drive.
I have 3 folders I keep old installs in and maybe once a year I go back
and ask myself "why in the world did I keep that piece of c***p!" and
then toss it. Probably I ran and tested it and it was no good but
forgot to remove it from my "hold" folder.


  #6  
Old November 3rd 17, 01:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel60
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 3/11/2017 4:59 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 11/2/2017 10:35 PM, Daniel60 wrote:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??

TIA

Daniel


You can cut objects from the Recycle Bin and paste them elsewhere.
However, I am not sure about burning to a CD directly from the Recycle
Bin.

I use a flash drive to archive software installers and the like. I have
756 files, including fonts that were not part of the original
installation of Windows 7 and Mozilla extensions. After I install a new
item or update an existing item, I move the installer, ZIP. or XPI file
to a folder named "To Archive" on my PC. About once a week (just before
backing up my entire system), I move the contents of "To Archive" to my
flash drive. Every so often, I backup the flash drive to an external
hard drive that I store remotely.

However, I do not archive or backup installers for Microsoft updates.
There are just too many of them, and there are far too many that replace
earlier ones that replaced even earlier ones. I know this because I
maintain an inventory, not only of updates that I install but also those
that I reject and those that have been replaced.

All this might seem somewhat obsessive. However, I use to handle
configuration management for very large software systems; and I learned
early that reverting to older versions of software is sometimes very
necessary.

Hmm!! Flash Drives!! Now where did I put the dozen or so 8GB drives I
brought a couple of years ago??

Thanks for that suggestion, David.

Daniel
  #7  
Old November 3rd 17, 03:16 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 11/3/2017 12:05 AM, Paul wrote:
Daniel60 wrote:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??

TIA

Daniel


There's a difference between what's on the left of your
desktop, and the folder it uses in Explorer.

https://s1.postimg.org/1b2xctbten/recycle_folder.gif

The thing on the left of your desktop, is "virtual". If you right-click
that icon, you can see the desktop has custom properties and code/logic
behind it.

However, that thing also needs storage.

C:\$Recycle.Bin

holds inside it, a folder called "Recycle Bin". And when
I threw a test file in the trash, that's where it ended up.

C:\$Recycle.Bin\Recycle Bin --- my test.txt was here

*******

Using nfi.exe, you can see the other objects in that
area, are ordinary folders. The "resident" means this one
is so small, it fits into the $MFT entry space and doesn't
need any separate clusters.

File 478
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-2365071439-2178826880-2997811795-1001
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$INDEX_ROOT $I30 (resident)

This is another example. The naming convention of these, suggests
they're SIDs or Security Identifiers. The three clusters of
digits are randomly assigned during an OS installation. The
"1000" at the end, is where the OS starts assigning user
accounts. The number "500" is administrator, and numerically,
it's separated from the regular accounts. You'll notice in this
case, the folder has one cluster (4096 bytes) of storage
just for the folder entry. Which seems strange. The desktop.ini
file inside the folder, is, like on other folders, used
for folder customization when a folder is displayed in
File Explorer. However, attempts to enter these "SID folders",
even using the System account, give Access Denied.

File 15663
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$INDEX_ROOT $I30 (resident)
$INDEX_ALLOCATION $I30 (nonresident)
logical sectors 195384-195391 (0x2fb38-0x2fb3f)
$BITMAP $I30 (resident)

File 15670
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000\desktop.ini
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$DATA (resident)

The "dir" command won't even let me list that part
of the tree (because I haven't figured out yet,
how to place an escape character for the $ that works :-) ).

In any case, none of that really matters. Have a look at

C:\$Recycle.Bin\Recycle Bin

in File Explorer and see if the collection of things to be
backed up is complete.

And be prepared *at any time*, to lose the contents
of the Recycle Bin. Things like this should be
considered volatile in the logical sense. The OS
has no particular reason to care if they get lost.
For example, if you drop a too-large file into
the recycle bin, would a side effect be the
erasure of the contents of the rest of the bin ?
You would have to know the behavior of that bin
in exquisite detail, to avoid costly accidents.
Backups or not.

Doing what you're doing, is just asking for trouble.

But you're not the first person, nor the last
person, to try using the Recycle Bin for non-volatile
storage.

Paul


If you have more hard drives or partitions beyond C, you will find a
Recycle Bin for each. You will have to change the folder options to see
them. On each, select [Tools Folder Options]. Select the View tab on
the Folder Options window. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide protected
operating system files (Recommended)", confirm that choice, and select
the OK button.

When you open, for example, C:\$RECYCLE.BIN, you may see several folders
all named (again, for example) "Recycle Bin". They all have the same
contents. However, when you open each of them, the complete path and
file shown in the address area of Windows Explorer are different.

--
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

By allowing employers to eliminate coverage for birth control
from their insurance plans, President Trump has guaranteed there
will be an increase in the demand for abortions.
  #8  
Old November 3rd 17, 03:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
pyotr filipivich
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

Daniel60 on Fri, 3 Nov 2017 16:35:23
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!


Those programs should go somewhere else. I would not trust
Microsoft not to do something "clever" to "improve my computer
experience" and wipe the Recycle Bin "just to be helpful". (I
anthropomorphize Windows as a hyperactive Boy Scout out to be useful
and let you know all the good things it is doing to you. Like
reorganizing your workspace and tossing out old stuff.)

I've a directory SetupPrograms which has all sorts of "I may need
this someday" programs and files.

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the stuff
in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore everything to it
original positions on the HD first??

--
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Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?
  #9  
Old November 3rd 17, 05:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 03/11/2017 09:37, Shadow wrote:
The trashcan has that symbol because it's for TRASH. Not many
people go back to the trash to see if there's any pizza leftovers from
last week....


In Brazil they do it all the time because they are so poor that they
have to scavenge for food.







--
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satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

  #10  
Old November 4th 17, 11:09 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel60
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 3/11/2017 6:05 PM, Paul wrote:
Daniel60 wrote:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened
to remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use
my Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll
need again .... but you never know!!

So what I would like to know is is there a simple way to burn the
stuff in the Recycle Bin to CD/DVD without having to Restore
everything to it original positions on the HD first??

TIA

Daniel


There's a difference between what's on the left of your
desktop, and the folder it uses in Explorer.

https://s1.postimg.org/1b2xctbten/recycle_folder.gif

The thing on the left of your desktop, is "virtual". If you right-click
that icon, you can see the desktop has custom properties and code/logic
behind it.

However, that thing also needs storage.

C:\$Recycle.Bin

holds inside it, a folder called "Recycle Bin". And when
I threw a test file in the trash, that's where it ended up.

C:\$Recycle.Bin\Recycle Bin --- my test.txt was here

*******

Using nfi.exe, you can see the other objects in that
area, are ordinary folders. The "resident" means this one
is so small, it fits into the $MFT entry space and doesn't
need any separate clusters.

File 478
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-2365071439-2178826880-2997811795-1001
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$INDEX_ROOT $I30 (resident)

This is another example. The naming convention of these, suggests
they're SIDs or Security Identifiers. The three clusters of
digits are randomly assigned during an OS installation. The
"1000" at the end, is where the OS starts assigning user
accounts. The number "500" is administrator, and numerically,
it's separated from the regular accounts. You'll notice in this
case, the folder has one cluster (4096 bytes) of storage
just for the folder entry. Which seems strange. The desktop.ini
file inside the folder, is, like on other folders, used
for folder customization when a folder is displayed in
File Explorer. However, attempts to enter these "SID folders",
even using the System account, give Access Denied.

File 15663
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$INDEX_ROOT $I30 (resident)
$INDEX_ALLOCATION $I30 (nonresident)
logical sectors 195384-195391 (0x2fb38-0x2fb3f)
$BITMAP $I30 (resident)

File 15670
\$Recycle.Bin\S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000\desktop.ini
$STANDARD_INFORMATION (resident)
$FILE_NAME (resident)
$DATA (resident)

The "dir" command won't even let me list that part
of the tree (because I haven't figured out yet,
how to place an escape character for the $ that works :-) ).

In any case, none of that really matters. Have a look at

C:\$Recycle.Bin\Recycle Bin

in File Explorer and see if the collection of things to be
backed up is complete.

And be prepared *at any time*, to lose the contents
of the Recycle Bin. Things like this should be
considered volatile in the logical sense. The OS
has no particular reason to care if they get lost.
For example, if you drop a too-large file into
the recycle bin, would a side effect be the
erasure of the contents of the rest of the bin ?
You would have to know the behavior of that bin
in exquisite detail, to avoid costly accidents.
Backups or not.

Doing what you're doing, is just asking for trouble.

But you're not the first person, nor the last
person, to try using the Recycle Bin for non-volatile
storage.

Paul


Paul, you've lost me!! I know ... easily done!

If I open Windows Explorer, it doesn't show a "C:\$Recycle.Bin" but, at
the bottom left of the Win Ex screen, it does list (just one) "Recycle
Bin" and, if I click on it, it shows all 205 File Folders and Files in
the Recycle Bin, i.e. just one Recycle Bin for my three logical HD's,
C:\, G:\ and H:\.

If I open a CMD Windows, I can cd myself up to the C:\, and then cd
C:\$Recycle.Bin,
so I can ...

Quote
C:\$Recycle.BinDir
Volume in drive C is C:\
Volume Serial Number is nnnn-nnnn

Directory of C:\$Recycle.Bin

File Not Found
End Quote (would have been easier if I could have Copied from the
CMD.exe window!!)

So then I tried to CD into the "Recycle.Bin" and then the "Recycle Bin"
sub-folders of "C:\$Recycle.Bin", but both times I got "The System
cannot find the path specified.".

What an I doing wrong??
Daniel
  #11  
Old November 4th 17, 11:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel60
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 4/11/2017 2:16 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Snip

If you have more hard drives or partitions beyond C, you will find a
Recycle Bin for each. You will have to change the folder options to see
them. On each, select [Tools Folder Options]. Select the View tab on
the Folder Options window. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide protected
operating system files (Recommended)", confirm that choice, and select
the OK button.

When you open, for example, C:\$RECYCLE.BIN, you may see several folders
all named (again, for example) "Recycle Bin". They all have the same
contents. However, when you open each of them, the complete path and
file shown in the address area of Windows Explorer are different.

David, as I typed in reply to Paul, in Windows Explorer I see only one
"Recycle Bin" at the bottom left of that screen. Clicking it shows icons
for all 205 Files and Folders in the Recycle Bin. I cannot see how to
differentiate which files/folders are on which of my three partitions,
C:\, G:\ and H:\

If I right Click on (several of the) icons, I have the option to select
either "Restore", "Cut", "Delete" or "Properties".

Daniel
  #12  
Old November 4th 17, 11:34 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Daniel60
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Default OT Boy Scouts!! Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 4/11/2017 2:35 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
Daniel60 on Fri, 3 Nov 2017 16:35:23
+1100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
I'm reading posts on this group from back in March 2017 and the
"current" thread is about CCleaner and Avast cleaners, which happened to
remind me .....

Yesterday, I ran CCleaner 5.34 and, amongst other things, it wanted to
empty my Recycle Bin. Now, I know it's bad practice but I tend to use my
Recycle Bin as somewhere to store programs that I don't think I'll need
again .... but you never know!!


Those programs should go somewhere else. I would not trust
Microsoft not to do something "clever" to "improve my computer
experience" and wipe the Recycle Bin "just to be helpful". (I
anthropomorphize Windows as a hyperactive Boy Scout out to be useful
and let you know all the good things it is doing to you. Like
reorganizing your workspace and tossing out old stuff.)


In Australia, back in the 50's-60's, the Boy Scouts had a fund raising
program called "Bob-A-Job", where they'd mow your lawn for a Shilling
(10 cents), Wash your car for a Shilling, etc..

Cannot say I've heard of it recently .... and it would cost you a damn
sight more than a "Bob-A-Job"!!

(Just noticed ... filipivich. My surname is Mercovich, so we might have
some common heritage ..... way, way, way back!!)

Daniel
  #13  
Old November 4th 17, 01:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Daniel60
writes:
[]
Paul, you've lost me!! I know ... easily done!

If I open Windows Explorer, it doesn't show a "C:\$Recycle.Bin" but, at
the bottom left of the Win Ex screen, it does list (just one) "Recycle
Bin" and, if I click on it, it shows all 205 File Folders and Files in
the Recycle Bin, i.e. just one Recycle Bin for my three logical HD's,
C:\, G:\ and H:\.


(I'm not Paul, but have you turned on "show hidden folders" (or
something like that)?


If I open a CMD Windows, I can cd myself up to the C:\, and then cd
C:\$Recycle.Bin,
so I can ...

Quote
C:\$Recycle.BinDir
Volume in drive C is C:\
Volume Serial Number is nnnn-nnnn

Directory of C:\$Recycle.Bin

File Not Found
End Quote (would have been easier if I could have Copied from the
CMD.exe window!!)


1. I think the CMD window also doesn't show hidden files by default. Try
switches - "dir /ah" might work, for example.
2. You _can_ copy from the command prompt window, just not quite as
normal (e. g. with Ctrl-X/C/V). [Well, you can't cut, but you can copy
and paste.] Click on the symbol at the top left (left end of title bar;
looks like a mini command window) and then Edit. Takes a bit of getting
used to.

So then I tried to CD into the "Recycle.Bin" and then the "Recycle Bin"
sub-folders of "C:\$Recycle.Bin", but both times I got "The System
cannot find the path specified.".

What an I doing wrong??
Daniel


In such circumstances, I've _sometimes_ found "cd C:\x\y\z" actually
gets me there, even if the system denies that say y exists. (But it _is_
tedious, especially if the names are awkward; using "command prompt
here" from Windows Explorer, once you've turned on the hiddens, is
probably easier.)
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Old November 4th 17, 03:05 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
David E. Ross[_2_]
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On 11/4/2017 4:23 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
On 4/11/2017 2:16 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

Snip

If you have more hard drives or partitions beyond C, you will find a
Recycle Bin for each. You will have to change the folder options to see
them. On each, select [Tools Folder Options]. Select the View tab on
the Folder Options window. Uncheck the checkbox for "Hide protected
operating system files (Recommended)", confirm that choice, and select
the OK button.

When you open, for example, C:\$RECYCLE.BIN, you may see several folders
all named (again, for example) "Recycle Bin". They all have the same
contents. However, when you open each of them, the complete path and
file shown in the address area of Windows Explorer are different.

David, as I typed in reply to Paul, in Windows Explorer I see only one
"Recycle Bin" at the bottom left of that screen. Clicking it shows icons
for all 205 Files and Folders in the Recycle Bin. I cannot see how to
differentiate which files/folders are on which of my three partitions,
C:\, G:\ and H:\

If I right Click on (several of the) icons, I have the option to select
either "Restore", "Cut", "Delete" or "Properties".

Daniel


See my first paragraph that you quoted.

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Old November 4th 17, 03:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default Saving the Recycle Bin!!

On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 13:54:23 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

2. You _can_ copy from the command prompt window, just not quite as
normal (e. g. with Ctrl-X/C/V). [Well, you can't cut, but you can copy
and paste.] Click on the symbol at the top left (left end of title bar;
looks like a mini command window) and then Edit. Takes a bit of getting
used to.


Better yet, enable Quick Edit mode as a default and you never have to go
back up there to the menu again. Copy text by dragging your mouse across
it and hitting Enter, paste text by positioning your cursor and right
clicking the mouse.

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