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HB wrote:
"Brick" wrote in message news - snip - I run Windows Live Mail on Windows 10, so that's an option. -- Brick Mortar I downloaded it from Softonic and they're calling it "Windows Essentials." It was installed underPrograms (x86). As I suspected, there is nothing there but a wab.exe and a wabmig.exe file. No mail program was installed. MS updates remove these older mail programs so tell us how you got around that. How did you get the updates stopped that are doing this in W-10? http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...nt-email.me%3E 16.4.3828.331 2012_Wave5 137,329,840 bytes Using similar techniques you might be able to find other versions. That file has a bunch of stuff in it, but I was unable to actually find wlmail.exe ! Paul |
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"Mayayana" wrote in message news "HB" wrote | I could reinstall it but it wouldn't connect to the gmail | server. MS really messed it up. | That might be a different issue. Different servers vary in terms of what they support. Google is somewhat militant. I don't know the specifics with them, but there could be a problem with protocols. OE can only support older, now defunct, versions of SSL, now TLS, for email encryption. If gmail no longer support unencrypted email then that could be the problem. It worked fine until the updates. No problem with protocols. Check the net and you will see plenty of mention of MS killing OE6 on people's PCs. The updates also killed the reinstaller made by Runasxp. I found the entire OE6 folder moved from Programs to the desk top. | I think it's time I look seriously at Macs. Maybe they have a demo in one of | the stores here. I don't like the fact we buy the PC and don't own what's in | it, MS does, that's a serious turnoff. | Part of what MS are doing is inspired by Apple, so be careful. The whole idea of the Microsoft Store and of limiting user control of the system come from Apple. Apple makes $1 billion/year, last I heard, from selling music alone through iTunes. MS see that and they drool. They're moving very gradually toward an idea of rental and/or ad-supported software. You see ads in Windows. You buy stuff at their store. (MS gets a 30% cut of any software you buy through them.) You use their services. That's what their aiming for. They want you to think of your computer as a kiosk interface to shop and be entertained. I believe you're right. Greed. I bet the day comes when people will have to pay MS by the month to use Windows. Something like we pay our ISPs by the month. Greed. Otherwise why the hell should MS care that millions want and are using OE6 and other older email clients. I'm fortunate in that 2 of the PCs in my home are W-7 with updates turned off. At least for awhile we can enjoy the software we have without MS scanning all the HDs and removing what they deem unacceoptable for my family to have on our PCs. Honestly, I feel like I would if a stranger came into my home and went through my desk, my wallet, my closets. Apple have developed a reputation for stability and ease of use. They've achieved that by locking down the system, blocking access to both hardware and the OS. That also allows them to price gouge. They decide you don't need floppies... or CDs... or DVDs... or the "old" kind of cable... and that's that. You're out of luck. Then they'll charge you through the nose for the new stuff. (They actually designed their own custom, irregular 5-pointed-drive screws at one point, so that no one would have tools to take apart their products. And many of their laptops are 0-maintenance, encased in glue resin on the inside. By contrast, I've been building my own computers for the past 20 years. Windows runs on generic hardware. As does Linux.) Macs are good if you don't do much and have money to burn. They're especially good for non-techie people. Many of the people I know who switched did it mostly because they just didn't want to have to figure out security issues on Windows. In short, Apple is the AOL of the computer world. They charge a premium and that buys you a simpler, managed system. Another kind of walled garden. As with AOL, things like privacy are not an issue because the customer base trusts them to manage their devices. On the pro side it's very pretty and usually stable. On the con side it's wildly overpriced and restrictive. I'm happy to be hearing the other side. You might want to talk to people who do what you do, but on Macs. I often find that the people who say Macs are much better turn out to be running Windows in a VM to use their old software. There's something wrong when the computer you choose can't run the software you use. No one should *need* to use a VM. And that's another big expense. As I understand it, running Windows on a Mac will only work with the Pro version. An extra hundred dollars and an indefensible limitation. But if you're tired of spending time on tech, and don't mind the cost, and what you want to do is mostly online, media, email, etc, then you might prefer a Mac. Thanks for bringing that up. I never asked anyone what they do on their Macs. For all I know they may do a little surfing, get their email, check into Facebook for awhile and that's it. My daughter, sons and wife do a lot offline on their computers. The kids have a load of games they don't seem to tire of. One other point: It's a bit like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. You don't have to become an AppleSeed to use Macs, but most converts do become irrational, partisan, pod people eventually. It's something about the marketing, the charisma of Lord Jobs, and the appeal of being a conformist who dreams of "thinking different". You might feel pressured to visit your local Apple Church regularly, for services or to talk the the pleasant geniuses, or just to buy more stuff. Because that's what AppleSeeds do. They buy more Apple stuff. (Did you think it was nutty college students who camp out to have their wallet vacuumed in exchange for a new phone they don't need? No. Those are the "normal" AppleSeeds. Holy moley,.... you have me laughing my @$$ off! You have a geat way with words. |
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"Bill Bradshaw" wrote in message ... I use this to run OE6: https://sites.google.com/site/simple...look-express-6 Once and a while after Microsoft updates I have to reinstall it. It only takes a couple of minutes. Hopefully if it stops again Microsoft has not done something that will not let me reinstall. I use this on both Windows 10 32 bit and 64 bit. Bill I couldn't reinstall it. It screws up the work-around or whatever it's called created Runasxp. I finally got it reinstalled and got several kinds of MS popups claiming one thing or another. I don't believe I'll ever get it to run again and I'm really pi$$ed. - snip - |
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 09:59:43 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote in "HB" wrote | ....wiped out OE6. | There has to be a way to stop them, maybe in the regestry. Someone on this | group must know how to stop these updates. | Check out ShutUP10 O&O ShutUp10 means you have full control over which comfort functions under Windows 10 you wish to use, and you decide when the passing on of your data goes too far. Using a very simple interface, you decide how Windows 10 should respect your privacy by deciding which unwanted functions should be deactivated. O&O ShutUp10 is entirely free and does not have to be installed – it can be simply run directly and immediately on your PC. And it will not install or download retrospectively unwanted or unnecessary software, like so many other programs do these days! https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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"HB" wrote
| It worked fine until the updates. No problem with protocols. Check the net | and you will see plenty of mention of MS killing OE6 on people's PCs. The | updates also killed the reinstaller made by Runasxp. I found the entire OE6 | folder moved from Programs to the desk top. | | I bet the day comes when people will have | to pay MS by the month to use Windows. Something like we pay our ISPs by the | month. | Or ads. Or both. They've been moving in small steps. There's Office 365 rental, which is apparently successful. Or at least that's the way they're painting it. Right now there are little ads in the "Metro" tiles, or pushiness about using MS products, which many don't even see as ads. I imagine the form it takes will depend on how things work out: If people buy lots of "apps" and tolerate ads then it might be more profitable to give away Windows. They could also do things that are less obvious. For instance, loading ads into webpages visited, which is something ISPs have experiemented with. But I suppose their preference would be all of the above: Rent Windows for a high price, show ads, and still sell stuff through the Windows Store. Once you accept that it's their computer, the sky's the limit. And then there's the ISP wrinkle: Without net neutrality, Internet access begins to look more like a cable TV plan rather than a phone plan. We don't have ads for antacids and happy pills interrupting our phone conversations, but we do have them on TV, and increasingly part of the screen is an ad. And there's product placement in shows. Without net neutrality, companies like Apple and Microsoft might enter into contracts with Comcast and Verizon, as well as Facebook, Google and Twitter, all cooperating to milk customers. | Greed. Otherwise why the hell should MS care that millions want and are | using OE6 and other older email clients. | It could be both. OE doesn't support later encryption than TLS 1.0, which has been phased out because it's been cracked. At the same time there's a push to use encryption everywhere. (Google Chrome is starting to warn people when a website isn't using encryption.) So OE may be viewed as unsafe software. On the other hand, if they're trying to protect you then it would be common sense that they'd provide some kind of explanation and alternatives, not just "throw a grenade into Program Files". That really is bizarre behavior. Perhaps they just figured that if they break your email you'll switch to webmail. | Honestly, I feel like I | would if a stranger came into my home and went through my desk, my wallet, | my closets. | Indeed. It amazes me that more people don't feel that way. Just the principle of it is outrageous -- that someone thinks they have a right to trespass that way simply because you bought something from them. And in this case even that's a stretch. If you buy a Windows computer it's an OEM license. Microsoft define Dell or HP as the licensor, and that's who you have to go to for support. You didn't do business with MS any more than you negotiated with an author for the last book you bought. I think one reason more people don't complain is because we've created a sleazy environment on both sides: The sleazy tech company holds out a free bauble and tries to pick your pocket as you grab that bauble. The customer hopes to grab the bauble while protecting their wallet. We want free. Neither side is being honest. And now the sleaze has become institutionalized. Google were making billions on ads *before* they started spying, just by connecting ads with search terms. But they saw a way to make more and few people complained. Another reason is that the logistics are mostly invisible. I was reading recently that car companies are now looking at selling personal data collected from things like built-in GPS used for in-car services. What gives them the right to be a corporate peeping Tom? It's crazy. But that kind of exploitation is not something you can see and measure. You're unlikely to be aware of it unless you happen to see an article somewhere. Without laws there's not much to stop it. |
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On 2018-03-12, HB wrote:
wink wink, nudge nuge I have a snowball's chance in hell of finding one of those CDs and matching key. Ebay sellers frequently offer them, or possibly you might know someone with a no-longer-used installation CD and key they'd let you have. XP was around for so long there is no shortage out there. Where are you finding these old CDs with matching keys? When you've been in the computer business as long as I have (~40 years) you acquire a lot of obsolete stuff. I even have some early IBM-branded DOS packages around that are still shrink-wrapped. Or if I ever need to run TopView I'm all set with that as well. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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HB wrote:
....wiped out OE6. It's still there but will not work anymore. So now I have a laptop I can't use for email. I don't understand why the hell MS would give a &^%$ that someone would want to use OE. And what really eats my lunch is these updates are FORCED on us. Our choice was taken away. There has to be a way to stop them, maybe in the regestry. Someone on this group must know how to stop these updates. OE is 1997 technology. Development ended in 2006 - 10 years after release and inclusion with IE4 for Windows 95. The last supported operating system for OE was XP. Vista provided Windows Mail which also ceased development in 2006. Windows 7 did not include a mail client nor did the IE version released with Windows 7. Asking why MSFT doesn't support OE is a no brainer - they haven't for over 12 years. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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HB wrote:
What other alternative is there where the kids can play their games created to run on Windows, or the wife's interior design software created for windows, or music editing software my son uses, the image editing software my daughter uses... all this software would be useless on a Mac or other system. And we all used OE6 and WindowsMail before that. Not really a reason since none of those(games, design software, music and video editing) require OE. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 17:11:12 -0000 (UTC), Brick wrote: I don't like webmail for my main email. Good! as far as I'm concerned, webmail is far and away the worst way to do e-mail. I do use webmail for hotmail and gmail, but they are throw away addys. Are you aware that using web-mail for them is not necessary? You can access them with your e-mail client. Doing so is not only a better way, but it lets you get all your mail in a single place. In additon to each of those services(Outlook.com fka Hotmail and Gmail) providing the ability to 'get all your mail' in multiple places on multiple devices. Afaics, the culture, ecosystem and need/desire for 'one-place' email ceased quite some time ago for most end-users. 18 years ago we were lucky to be able to sync Outlook desktop client contacts to an iPod(the first device supporting that feature). It took MSFT 6 more years(2007) and just shy of 1 yr later to provide a similar sync option for Hotmail to smartphone(e.g. iPhone). Much has changed in the last 18 years including the end of our salad days. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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Ken Blake wrote:
On 11 Mar 2018 16:09:34 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote: What other alternative is there where the kids can play their games created to run on Windows, or the wife's interior design software created for windows, or music editing software my son uses, the image editing software my daughter uses... all this software would be useless on a Mac or other system. And we all used OE6 and WindowsMail before that. Indeed! Classic example of shooting the messenger, instead of blaming Microsoft for not providing an alternative for Outlook Express / Windows Mail. I disagree that Microsoft should be blamed, for several reasons. 1.Windows 10 *does* come with an alternative to Outlook Express/Windows Mail. The mail program that comes with Windows is essentially an upgraded version of Outlook Express. I personally think it's a poor choice, but it is a choice. 2. Many people thought Outlook Express was a poor choice. I never thought it was a very good choice, but I didn't think it was as terrible as many people thought. On the other hand I thought Windows Mail was a poor choice 3. Windows Live Mail is another choice. I also think that's a poor choice, but it too is a choice. 4. Outlook.exe (part of Microsoft Office) is still another choice. It's not free, but it's available, and in my view it's a decent choice. 5. The web-based Outlook.com is still another choice 6. Although most versions of Windows have come with an e-mail program, as far as I'm concerned, there's no particular reason why they should. Sending and receiving e-mail is not an operating system function, and there's no more reason for Windows to come with one than there is for Windows to come with a spreadsheet program, database program, etc. 7. Regardless of whether or not Microsoft provides an e-mail program with Windows, there are lots of third-party e-mail programs available, many of them free, and many better than what comes with Windows. Actually the code for Win8x/10 included email client was built on the foundation and syncability features of Windows Live Mail more so than OE or Vista's Windows Mail. The similarity to OE was the initial user interface for compatibility and understanding purpose and a few pieces of common code. The majority of code though was more closely related to Windows Phone which also was built with Windows Live code. - The entire purpose of the 'Live' suite was to, for lack of a more comprehensive word, beta test internal and external(6 Billion Hotmail and Messenger users) use on the integration of a suite of syncable applications in Windows. That entire vision started in 2006. Win10's mail and related apps are just the evolution of Windows Live Essentials(2009, 2011) and Windows Essentials(2012). -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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Frank Slootweg wrote:
If not, then I don't consider it to be an alternative, because it's totally different and offers no migration/import part from OE/WM. IMAP for many email accounts has been the easiest migration route to Windows 10 Mail client since both OE and Vista, like Windows 10, support IMAP. The other optional route for email accounts was available from 2008 through the fall of 2016 for MSA(Microsoft Accounts). That migration route was DeltaSync for Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live, and MSn accounts in Windows Live Mail which was an installable client on XP and Vista. - One need not use the WLM client thereafter but the route to 'push' your mail and contacts to Outlook.com(fka Hotmail, Live. Msn.com) was the method MSFT provided. Whether one like the approach or not, it 'was' available and is still available today, once installed[1] since WLM12 still has the ability to import OE and WM mail into WLM for copy/move into any email account supporting IMAP. While not all email accounts support IMAP, the majority do provide IMAP and POP3 support. The same approach was available for years for the Outlook client(not web UI client) via the Hotmail/Outlook Connector though it was better(and highly recommended) to use Windows Live Mail to import OE/WM email and contacts then use Windows Live Mail to export to Outlook via the MSFT Exchange option. The bottom line, if you really needed to migrate the options were/are available...but to do so the underlying requirement and expectedly so was the need for a MSA account(Outlook/Live/Hotmail/MSn.com or 3rd party registered email address as an MSA) or the use of IMAP. This is not about MUA *choices*, it's about Microsoft not providing a migration path for its *existing* users. See above Microsoft's users had OE or WM. Microsoft did not provide a migration part when WM died with Vista. See above 3. Windows Live Mail is another choice. I also think that's a poor choice, but it too is a choice. See my other response. WLM is bug-ridden, bordering on unuseable. *If* WLM would be a realistic migration path, I would still be on it. WLM has never been everyone's cup of tea, but when migration is the concern - it was MSFT provided route. Not using then or now[1] doesn't negate the option being available from MSFT. [1] WLM while no longer available for download from MSFT's servers it can be obtained via 3rd party hosting sites. If one has the 130MB full installer archived(the last WLM2012 version digital signature is April 7th 2014, file/product version 16.4.3528.331) only the matter of just installing WLM and using the included Import and Copy tools - in the past to an MSA or IMAP account or now into an IMAP account for use in Win10. What one does thereafter is user preference...use the MSA account(which is obviously and has been since 2008 MSFT's expectation), use IMAP, or find another client and migration route for OE's DBX files or Vista's Windows Mail *.eml files. Thus stating that no migration path was/is available from MSFT would be in error especially since the option was available for over 8 years, more than sufficient time for OE/WM users implementation. Was it the best and easiest route? No. Was/Is a migration route available? Yes -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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There has to be a way to stop them, maybe in the regestry. Someone on this group must know how to stop these updates You most definitely can stop the Microsoft updates. For years. I was able to stop the updates for more than two years, but eventually, one got me, which is described elsewhere on this newsgroup. I can't tell you /which/ setting killed all updates as I set them all, for weeks I was digging them up, so all I can tell you is that I was on Windows 10 Pro Version 1511 OS Build 10586.1106 (November 12, 2015) until January 26th 2018, always on the Internet via Ethernet. If it helps, I have a /huge/ log file of the failed updates, which is too huge to post here, but there may be a clue in these snippets as to what specifically I did that enabled me to block Microsoft Updates for more than two years. .. Troubleshoot why your Windows 10 update keeps failing https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10164 .. Check your OS version: Start Settings PC Settings System About Windows 10 Pro Version 1511 OS Build 10586.1106 (November 12, 2015) .. Determine your system type: Start Settings Control Panel System About System type System Type = 64 bit operating system, x64 based processor .. Check messages from the OS https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...erating-system Start Settings Control Panel Security & Maintenance Mine says: Check backup settings Windows cannot find the disk or network location where your backups are being saved. Backup date 10/1/2017 5:00 PM .. Start Settings PC Settings Update & Security Feature update to Windows 10, version 1607. Details: Downloading updates 23% .. Get the latest Windows 10 release https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10 .. Download the Windows Update Troubleshooter https://aka.ms/wudiag This saves the 191KB file named "wu170509.diagcab" .. Doubleclick on wu170509.diagcab & hit Next to see "Issues might be found troubleshooting with administrator privilages" "Try troubleshotting as an administrator" .. Click on that "Try troubleshotting as an administrator" link & hit Next. It will say... "Windows Update" "Detecting problems" "Checking for pending updates" "Checking Registry Keys" "Starting Bits service" "One troubleshooting step to resolve WU issues is to delete and re-download updates to your computer. Would you like to try this step now? Depending on your network configuration, you may incur download costs." "Apply this fix" or "Skip this fix" .. Press "Skip this fix" (since it won't work anyway) & it will go on to say: "Windows Update" "Resolving problems" "Checking registry keys..." (This takes hours to run so it's still running.) .. Download the SSU (KB4035631) that matches your version of Windows from the Microsoft Update Catalog. http://www.catalog.update.microsoft....px?q=KB4035631 2017-08 Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB4035631) windows10.0-kb4035631-x64_{long number}.msu http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/crup/2017/08/windows10.0-kb4035631-x64_{long number}.msu 11.4MB But when I doublecked on that MSU file, it said: "Windows update standalone installer" "This update is not applicable to your computer" .. Download the most recent KB https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...update-history "Find the most recent update KB for the version of Windows 10 you have, it¢s usually at the top of the list and either write the KB number down or copy it. KB4040724 (OS Build 15063.632) .. Perform an in-place upgrade by downloading the Media Creation Tool https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 .. Use the MCT to perform an in-place upgrade of Windows 10 https://mix.office.com/watch/3qnnlpnv43zu .. Download the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool (MCT) and use it to perform a clean install of Windows 10. https://mix.office.com/watch/1dbgpfktgysig .. Contact the "Answer Desk" https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/contactus/ .. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...9-cf82f0a950be Background Intelligent Transfer Service .. Start Run services.msc http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=130...gistration.jpg Did you ever get a Win10 Pro troubleshooter saying: "Service registration is missing or corrupt" What did you do to solve it? This says it has been happening since Windows XP days & still happens: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-windows_install/service-registration-is-missing-or-corrupt/4953e8c4-9fcc-4f45-9db5-c84a219bcce6 This says it's one of the most common Windows update problems: https://www.xtremerain.com/service-registration-is-missing-or-corrupt/ This says Bits is the problem (Background Intelligent Transfer Service): https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_update/windows-10-service-registration-is-missing-or/a2bfb3c3-665f-4f22-92d9-cf82f0a950be C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Services: Windows Update Properties General Startup type Mine says "Manual" (which is what it's supposed to be). But I just now changed it to "Disabled" because maybe that will help. Same with "Background Intelligent Transfer Service". C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs Same with "Cryptographic Service". C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService Maybe turning each of those to "disabled" will stop Windows 10 Pro from updating forever and failing every single time? .. You need to run both the DISM and SFC commands shown below, not just one of them. .. Administrator command line run DISM DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth (This takes at least an hour to run and it fails in the end anyway.) C:\ DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool Version: 10.0.10586.0 Image Version: 10.0.10586.0 [==========================100.0%================== ========] Error: 0x800f0906 The source files could not be downloaded. Use the "source" option to specify the location of the files that are required to restore the feature. For more information on specifying a source location, see http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=243077. The DISM log file can be found at C:\WINDOWS\Logs\DISM\dism.log 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 DismApi.dll: - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 DismApi.dll: ----- Starting DismApi.dll session ----- - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 DismApi.dll: - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 DismApi.dll: Version 10.0.14393.446 - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 DismApi.dll: Parent process command line: "C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\SetupHost.Exe" /Install /Update /Quiet /ProcessId 8904 /InstallFile "C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\Install.esd" /progressCLSID c6bcac66-59d2-4b9b-87aa-daa798b15929 /ReportId {64C40C1F-B7A4-42BD-BF11-11C8C63D60B4}.201 "/ClientId" "6afdbb70-5ecd-4e0b-a58e-59e71092da8a" /WUCachedFileName "14393.0.161119-1705.rs1_refresh_CLIENTCombinedSL_RET_x64fre_en-us.esd" /SuccessId f5601dfe-1948-4865-aba9-0606a7242f77 - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Enter DismInitializeInternal - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Input parameters: LogLevel: 2, LogFilePath: (null), ScratchDirectory: (null) - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM Try to initialize Panther logging 1 times, last error: 0x0 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Initialized GlobalConfig - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Initialized SessionTable - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Lookup in table by path failed for: DummyPath-2BA51B78-C7F7-4910-B99D-BB7345357CDC - CTransactionalImageTable::LookupImagePath 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Waiting for m_pInternalThread to start - CCommandThread::Start 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=8908 Enter CCommandThread::CommandThreadProcedureStub - CCommandThread::CommandThreadProcedureStub 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=8908 Enter CCommandThread::ExecuteLoop - CCommandThread::ExecuteLoop 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 CommandThread StartupEvent signaled - CCommandThread::WaitForStartup 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 m_pInternalThread started - CCommandThread::Start 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Created g_internalDismSession - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Leave DismInitializeInternal - DismInitializeInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Enter DismOpenSessionInternal - DismOpenSessionInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Input parameters: ImagePath: DISM_{53BFAE52-B167-4E2F-A258-0A37B57FF845}, WindowsDirectory: (null), SystemDrive: (null) - DismOpenSessionInternal 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Lookup in table by path failed for: DRIVE_C - CTransactionalImageTable::LookupImagePath 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=7468 Waiting for m_pInternalThread to start - CCommandThread::Start 2017-09-21 08:35:57, Info DISM API: PID=6156 TID=4892 Enter CCommandThread::CommandThreadProcedureStub - CCommandThread::CommandThreadProcedureStub ..... ..... ... this is a huge log ........ so I truncated it .... |
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Paul wrote:
HB wrote: "Brick" wrote in message news - snip - I run Windows Live Mail on Windows 10, so that's an option. -- Brick Mortar I downloaded it from Softonic and they're calling it "Windows Essentials." It was installed underPrograms (x86). As I suspected, there is nothing there but a wab.exe and a wabmig.exe file. No mail program was installed. MS updates remove these older mail programs so tell us how you got around that. How did you get the updates stopped that are doing this in W-10? http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...nt-email.me%3E 16.4.3828.331 2012_Wave5 137,329,840 bytes Using similar techniques you might be able to find other versions. That file has a bunch of stuff in it, but I was unable to actually find wlmail.exe ! Paul C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Mail\wlmail.exe Windows Essentials 2012 - full installer version/download required, digital signature April 7, 2014 - installs fine on Windows 10 including the latest Insider Build. Unlike the stub installer was an optional route to install WLE12 suite of programs - the backend server hosting the required downloadable bits is no longer available to the public, though MSFT CSA(i.e. Support) does have the ability to temporarily(limited time window) provide a MSFT server download location - very rare and for the most part usually restricted to last resort or special case issues/problems under fee-based support. Fyi...the full installer(identical bits, digital sig and last version) is available on CNET, Major Geeks and a few mirrored sites. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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"HB" wrote in message news
Thanks, I have the software but MS prevents it from installing on W-10. This reply was created on WLM on Windows 10. - Windows 10 clean installed(previously imaged then wiped the OEM installation) on a new Win10 Home i7 8th gen latop(activated using the product key on chip and digitally linked to an MSA on the MSFT server); WLM, PhotoGallery/Movie Maker installed after Windows 10 setup. When installing Windows Essentials 2012 programs(WLM, PG/MM, and Writer) ensure that Windows 10's 'Windows Features' has enabled .NET 3.5. One can access Windows features[Turn Windows features on or off] via Control Panel/Programs and Features a. Click the Win10 Start Menu orb(lower left on Taskbar), enter/type Control Panel, click on Control Panel Desktop app, then Programs and Features - Click on Turn Windows features on or off, then enable '.Net Framework 3.5'. Note it is not necessary to toggle on the .NET 3.5 two secondary items - i.e. leave the two Windows Communication Foundation items unchecked. or, optionally b. one can access Programs and Features using the Win 10 'Run feature or via Cortana search by entering(or cut and pasting the following) C:\Windows\System32\appwiz.cpl -repeat the same process for enabling .NET 3.5 As noted elsewhere and included as a reminder - installing WLM does require the full version installer, the smaller web stub installer is no longer functional since it attempts to connect to and download installer bits from a server location that no longer exists. Good luck. -- -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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"...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote
| Afaics, the culture, ecosystem and need/desire for 'one-place' email | ceased quite some time ago for most end-users. | It's not really an issue of "one place" vs webmail. It's real email vs freebie webmail that claims co-ownership of your email and uses targetted ads based on that content. Nearly all ISPs now offer webmail as an option. The host for my domain provides a webmail option. I don't use it because it's a very poor substitute for a real email program. In other words, if you want to get your email on the road you can do that without using gmail, outlook.com, or yahoo. |
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