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Old June 11th 15, 12:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter
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Old June 11th 15, 12:33 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_4_]
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 19:30:14 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2015-06-10 7:19 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter


Looks like you installed Win7 twice. Eg, you had Home and you installed
Premium. Maybe.



To see if that's the case, what Peter should do is choose each of them
in turn and in each of them hold down the Windows key and press
Pause|Break. It will tell him there what edition of Windows 7 it is.
  #3  
Old June 11th 15, 12:35 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

Peter Jason wrote:
I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter


You have two entries in your BCD.

For some fun:

1) Start a Command Prompt window "cmd.exe", right click it
and select Run As Administrator.

2) Enter "bcdedit" then hit carriage return. You'll
get a dump of the OSes currently listed in the
boot manager.

You will see some information like this.

http://www.nextofwindows.com//wp-con..._OS_Loader.png

A tool like EasyBCD can be used to remove one of them,
but you had better be damn sure you understand what OSes
it is referring to.

Same goes for using the command line "bcdedit" in that
administrator window. Using bcdedit /? should
give you some help with all the options and what
they do.

bcdedit /delete {identifier} /f

You will need to properly identify the OS
to be removed from the menu, to return the
boot to "normal".

There are plenty of tutorial pages on bcdedit around,
so finding an answer should not be as hard as it
was a couple years ago.

It would also be a wise idea, to find the couple
lines of stuff that backup the BCD to BCD.bak.
You can also rebuild the BCD, if there is trouble.

Paul


  #4  
Old June 11th 15, 01:21 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Shadow
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:19:18 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter


If Win 7 boots anything like XP, I'd look at "boot.ini".
With a bootable Linux CD on hand in case I screw up. Make a
copy of boot.ini before you mess with it, so you can copy it back if
necessary.
[]'s
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  #5  
Old June 11th 15, 02:06 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jason
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:21:34 -0300 "Shadow" wrote in article

If Win 7 boots anything like XP, I'd look at "boot.ini".


Win 7 is different; there's no boot.ini ini more ;-)
  #6  
Old June 11th 15, 02:16 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:19:18 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter


If Win 7 boots anything like XP, I'd look at "boot.ini".
With a bootable Linux CD on hand in case I screw up. Make a
copy of boot.ini before you mess with it, so you can copy it back if
necessary.
[]'s


Windows 7 used "BCD", a binary file formulated to defect
simple editing.

The "bcdedit" tool contains all the functions you could need,
to add or remove lines from the binary BCD file.

And Vista was where BCD was introduced.

Win2K, WinXP boot.ini
Vista/W7/W8/W8.1/W10 BCD

The third-party EasyBCD, adds a convenient GUI for
those who hate command line work.

Just running "bcdedit" from the command line,
gives a dump of the current contents of BCD, in
a readable format. And that'll give you hints
and jumping-off points for your own clever edits.

This is the last command I used.

bcdedit /set {current} description "Win10 TP 10130"

That applies a descriptive label, to the currently
running operating system (which was Windows 10 at
the time). The string is then stored in the binary
BCD file.

Paul


  #7  
Old June 11th 15, 04:39 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 19:35:06 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter


You have two entries in your BCD.

For some fun:

1) Start a Command Prompt window "cmd.exe", right click it
and select Run As Administrator.

2) Enter "bcdedit" then hit carriage return. You'll
get a dump of the OSes currently listed in the
boot manager.

You will see some information like this.

http://www.nextofwindows.com//wp-con..._OS_Loader.png

A tool like EasyBCD can be used to remove one of them,
but you had better be damn sure you understand what OSes
it is referring to.

Same goes for using the command line "bcdedit" in that
administrator window. Using bcdedit /? should
give you some help with all the options and what
they do.

bcdedit /delete {identifier} /f

You will need to properly identify the OS
to be removed from the menu, to return the
boot to "normal".

There are plenty of tutorial pages on bcdedit around,
so finding an answer should not be as hard as it
was a couple years ago.

It would also be a wise idea, to find the couple
lines of stuff that backup the BCD to BCD.bak.
You can also rebuild the BCD, if there is trouble.

Paul


Thanks Paul, I have the BCD software and I get to this part.....
http://tinypic.com/m/ivlavp/1
that indicates the two similar OPs. Should I just delete the
unticked one? Peter. I have backed up the present case.
  #8  
Old June 11th 15, 04:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

Peter Jason wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 19:35:06 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter

You have two entries in your BCD.

For some fun:

1) Start a Command Prompt window "cmd.exe", right click it
and select Run As Administrator.

2) Enter "bcdedit" then hit carriage return. You'll
get a dump of the OSes currently listed in the
boot manager.

You will see some information like this.

http://www.nextofwindows.com//wp-con..._OS_Loader.png

A tool like EasyBCD can be used to remove one of them,
but you had better be damn sure you understand what OSes
it is referring to.

Same goes for using the command line "bcdedit" in that
administrator window. Using bcdedit /? should
give you some help with all the options and what
they do.

bcdedit /delete {identifier} /f

You will need to properly identify the OS
to be removed from the menu, to return the
boot to "normal".

There are plenty of tutorial pages on bcdedit around,
so finding an answer should not be as hard as it
was a couple years ago.

It would also be a wise idea, to find the couple
lines of stuff that backup the BCD to BCD.bak.
You can also rebuild the BCD, if there is trouble.

Paul


Thanks Paul, I have the BCD software and I get to this part.....
http://tinypic.com/m/ivlavp/1
that indicates the two similar OPs. Should I just delete the
unticked one? Peter. I have backed up the present case.


Have you run bcdedit yet, with no parameters, and got it
to dump the information as text ?

I like to make sure I know which is which.

For example, this can do redirect for you

(In Command Prompt cmd.exe, using Run as Administrator...)

bcdedit output.txt
notepad output.txt
... later
del output.txt

HTH,
Paul
  #9  
Old June 11th 15, 04:57 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:45:32 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 19:35:06 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter
You have two entries in your BCD.

For some fun:

1) Start a Command Prompt window "cmd.exe", right click it
and select Run As Administrator.

2) Enter "bcdedit" then hit carriage return. You'll
get a dump of the OSes currently listed in the
boot manager.

You will see some information like this.

http://www.nextofwindows.com//wp-con..._OS_Loader.png

A tool like EasyBCD can be used to remove one of them,
but you had better be damn sure you understand what OSes
it is referring to.

Same goes for using the command line "bcdedit" in that
administrator window. Using bcdedit /? should
give you some help with all the options and what
they do.

bcdedit /delete {identifier} /f

You will need to properly identify the OS
to be removed from the menu, to return the
boot to "normal".

There are plenty of tutorial pages on bcdedit around,
so finding an answer should not be as hard as it
was a couple years ago.

It would also be a wise idea, to find the couple
lines of stuff that backup the BCD to BCD.bak.
You can also rebuild the BCD, if there is trouble.

Paul


Thanks Paul, I have the BCD software and I get to this part.....
http://tinypic.com/m/ivlavp/1
that indicates the two similar OPs. Should I just delete the
unticked one? Peter. I have backed up the present case.


Have you run bcdedit yet, with no parameters, and got it
to dump the information as text ?

I like to make sure I know which is which.

For example, this can do redirect for you

(In Command Prompt cmd.exe, using Run as Administrator...)

bcdedit output.txt
notepad output.txt
... later
del output.txt

HTH,
Paul



Yes, there are two entries Wndows 7
& Microsoft Windows 7
http://tinypic.com/m/ivlb0m/1
Should I delete the last one?
  #10  
Old June 11th 15, 08:28 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

Peter Jason wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 23:45:32 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 19:35:06 -0400, Paul wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter
You have two entries in your BCD.

For some fun:

1) Start a Command Prompt window "cmd.exe", right click it
and select Run As Administrator.

2) Enter "bcdedit" then hit carriage return. You'll
get a dump of the OSes currently listed in the
boot manager.

You will see some information like this.

http://www.nextofwindows.com//wp-con..._OS_Loader.png

A tool like EasyBCD can be used to remove one of them,
but you had better be damn sure you understand what OSes
it is referring to.

Same goes for using the command line "bcdedit" in that
administrator window. Using bcdedit /? should
give you some help with all the options and what
they do.

bcdedit /delete {identifier} /f

You will need to properly identify the OS
to be removed from the menu, to return the
boot to "normal".

There are plenty of tutorial pages on bcdedit around,
so finding an answer should not be as hard as it
was a couple years ago.

It would also be a wise idea, to find the couple
lines of stuff that backup the BCD to BCD.bak.
You can also rebuild the BCD, if there is trouble.

Paul

Thanks Paul, I have the BCD software and I get to this part.....
http://tinypic.com/m/ivlavp/1
that indicates the two similar OPs. Should I just delete the
unticked one? Peter. I have backed up the present case.

Have you run bcdedit yet, with no parameters, and got it
to dump the information as text ?

I like to make sure I know which is which.

For example, this can do redirect for you

(In Command Prompt cmd.exe, using Run as Administrator...)

bcdedit output.txt
notepad output.txt
... later
del output.txt

HTH,
Paul



Yes, there are two entries Wndows 7
& Microsoft Windows 7
http://tinypic.com/m/ivlb0m/1
Should I delete the last one?


I guess we'll need more information than that.

Your second entry, almost looks like this was done.

bcdedit.exe /copy {current} /d "Microsoft Windows 7"

as in the example here.

https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...-configuration

I can't really tell whether that second entry is viable.
The "identifier" might be enough to make it work - I'm just
surprised there isn't more physical information as to where
it is stored.

Does EasyBCD have anything (an option) to display where the
item is stored ? On the disk in question, did you actually
put more than one boot OS ? Based on the size of the entry,
the second entry looks more like a stub of some sort.
Like, it needs a few more commands to finish it.

Just based on the size of the entry, the second one looks
bogus, but what do I know... Not much in this case.

Paul
  #11  
Old June 11th 15, 02:28 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Shadow
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:16:49 -0400, Paul wrote:

Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:19:18 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter


If Win 7 boots anything like XP, I'd look at "boot.ini".
With a bootable Linux CD on hand in case I screw up. Make a
copy of boot.ini before you mess with it, so you can copy it back if
necessary.
[]'s


Windows 7 used "BCD", a binary file formulated to defect
simple editing.

The "bcdedit" tool contains all the functions you could need,
to add or remove lines from the binary BCD file.

And Vista was where BCD was introduced.

Win2K, WinXP boot.ini
Vista/W7/W8/W8.1/W10 BCD

The third-party EasyBCD, adds a convenient GUI for
those who hate command line work.

Just running "bcdedit" from the command line,
gives a dump of the current contents of BCD, in
a readable format. And that'll give you hints
and jumping-off points for your own clever edits.

This is the last command I used.

bcdedit /set {current} description "Win10 TP 10130"

That applies a descriptive label, to the currently
running operating system (which was Windows 10 at
the time). The string is then stored in the binary
BCD file.


OK something new (to me). Wonder why they changed it. Clear
text is always preferable to binaries - see systemd.
[]'s
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We have a new policy - Google 2012
  #12  
Old June 11th 15, 03:01 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

Shadow wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:16:49 -0400, Paul wrote:

Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:19:18 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter

If Win 7 boots anything like XP, I'd look at "boot.ini".
With a bootable Linux CD on hand in case I screw up. Make a
copy of boot.ini before you mess with it, so you can copy it back if
necessary.
[]'s

Windows 7 used "BCD", a binary file formulated to defect
simple editing.

The "bcdedit" tool contains all the functions you could need,
to add or remove lines from the binary BCD file.

And Vista was where BCD was introduced.

Win2K, WinXP boot.ini
Vista/W7/W8/W8.1/W10 BCD

The third-party EasyBCD, adds a convenient GUI for
those who hate command line work.

Just running "bcdedit" from the command line,
gives a dump of the current contents of BCD, in
a readable format. And that'll give you hints
and jumping-off points for your own clever edits.

This is the last command I used.

bcdedit /set {current} description "Win10 TP 10130"

That applies a descriptive label, to the currently
running operating system (which was Windows 10 at
the time). The string is then stored in the binary
BCD file.


OK something new (to me). Wonder why they changed it. Clear
text is always preferable to binaries - see systemd.
[]'s


I've never seen an explanation for the existence of BCD.

OK, here is the design...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows...tartup_process

"Boot Configuration Data are stored in a data file that
has the same format as the Windows Registry hives and
is eventually loaded at registry key [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\BCD00000]"

So it's actually a registry file. Who knew ?

Paul
  #13  
Old June 11th 15, 10:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Dicky
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

Click the Start button. In the Search program and file box at the bottom of
the menu. Type "msconfig" hit the enter button. When the box opens up, go to
the "Boot" tab. Hilite the operating system that you want to be deleted in
the booting sequence, then hit the delete button, then hit OK and close the
System Configuration box. Reboot and without the two choices your system
should boot up without delay.....

"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...

I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter

  #14  
Old June 12th 15, 09:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike Tomlinson
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

En el artículo , Shadow
escribió:

Clear
text is always preferable to binaries - see systemd.


+1 in spades.

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  #15  
Old June 24th 15, 11:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Peter Jason
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Default Getting rid of a curious startup screen?

On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:19:18 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

I keep getting this when I boot to Win7 from the BIOS.
http://tinypic.com/m/ivl7yh/1
Is there any way to get rid of it? I've done all it wants, but still
it returns!
Peter




Thanks to all. I fixed it by going to the CONFIG.SYS "boot" tab and
then deleting the second entry in the box.


 




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