microsoft update for service pack 2

I just found out that the microsoft updat----service pack2 was what was
causing my problems with installing new software. I also found out from
computer repairman that this update is causing all kinds of problems for
people with printers and other programs on their computers..so I uninstalled
the lousy program, I never had any problems with my computer until this
update. So if you installed this update and are now having problems with
your computers, this might be the cause.

And a computer with spyware, viruses, or other problems whether known or
unknown may cause problems when SP-2 is installed.
Be sure you place the fault in the correct place.
Just because the problem becomes visible when a Service Pack is installed,
does not mean the Service Pack is the cause.

Hopefully you do not count to much on that repairman, you need someone with
an interest in your computer security and not in how much he can make from
you.

A well maintained computer is less likely to have problems related to a
Service Pack installation:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

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"Pat & Steve" wrote in message
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I just found out that the microsoft updat----service pack2 was what was
causing my problems with installing new software. I also found out from
computer repairman that this update is causing all kinds of problems for
people with printers and other programs on their computers..so I
uninstalled
the lousy program, I never had any problems with my computer until this
update. So if you installed this update and are now having problems with
your computers, this might be the cause.

SP2 is a solid and proven update and has been successfully installed
on over 150 Windows XP PCs. You should consider finding a better
educated repairman.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
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"Pat & Steve" wrote:

| I just found out that the microsoft updat----service pack2 was what was
| causing my problems with installing new software. I also found out from
| computer repairman that this update is causing all kinds of problems for
| people with printers and other programs on their computers..so I uninstalled
| the lousy program, I never had any problems with my computer until this
| update. So if you installed this update and are now having problems with
| your computers, this might be the cause.

Correction:

Should have read: "over 150 million Windows XP PCs..."

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Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
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DUH I checked for viruses..nothing...spyware...nothing, believe me for the
past four days I have tried everything to try to get this figured out..So I
contacteda computer tech..he's the one that told me this new update was the
root of alot of peoples computer problems..I didn't just pull the explanation
out of the air. He said try uninstalling it, I did, and it worked.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

And a computer with spyware, viruses, or other problems whether known or
unknown may cause problems when SP-2 is installed.
Be sure you place the fault in the correct place.
Just because the problem becomes visible when a Service Pack is installed,
does not mean the Service Pack is the cause.

Hopefully you do not count to much on that repairman, you need someone with
an interest in your computer security and not in how much he can make from
you.

A well maintained computer is less likely to have problems related to a
Service Pack installation:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Pat & Steve" wrote in message
...
I just found out that the microsoft updat----service pack2 was what was
causing my problems with installing new software. I also found out from
computer repairman that this update is causing all kinds of problems for
people with printers and other programs on their computers..so I
uninstalled
the lousy program, I never had any problems with my computer until this
update. So if you installed this update and are now having problems with
your computers, this might be the cause.

More than likely you have another problem with the computer.
The potential list is long and it is sometimes necessary to check for
compatibility issues with each hardware component and software manufacturer.

If your techs only solution is to uninstall SP-2, you should find a
competent tech and get a better opinion.
Uninstalling is only the first part of the solution, ask your tech for the
rest of the solution.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Pat & Steve" wrote in message
...
DUH I checked for viruses..nothing...spyware...nothing, believe me for the
past four days I have tried everything to try to get this figured out..So
I
contacteda computer tech..he's the one that told me this new update was
the
root of alot of peoples computer problems..I didn't just pull the
explanation
out of the air. He said try uninstalling it, I did, and it worked.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

And a computer with spyware, viruses, or other problems whether known or
unknown may cause problems when SP-2 is installed.
Be sure you place the fault in the correct place.
Just because the problem becomes visible when a Service Pack is
installed,
does not mean the Service Pack is the cause.

Hopefully you do not count to much on that repairman, you need someone
with
an interest in your computer security and not in how much he can make
from
you.

A well maintained computer is less likely to have problems related to a
Service Pack installation:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"Pat & Steve" wrote in message
...
I just found out that the microsoft updat----service pack2 was what was
causing my problems with installing new software. I also found out
from
computer repairman that this update is causing all kinds of problems
for
people with printers and other programs on their computers..so I
uninstalled
the lousy program, I never had any problems with my computer until this
update. So if you installed this update and are now having problems
with
your computers, this might be the cause.

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
SP2 is a solid and proven update and has been successfully installed
on over 150 Windows XP PCs. You should consider finding a better
educated repairman.

You should also take a look at the problems people have had with SP2, or
is your head stuck so far up Bill Gates behind, that you can not see any
further than your nose?

I know loads of people that will not install SP2 again.
It got its good points and when it do work, it works well, but if you
got software or hardware that will not work, then you are stuck.

I do agree with you about finding a better educated repair person.

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
More than likely you have another problem with the computer.
The potential list is long and it is sometimes necessary to check for
compatibility issues with each hardware component and software manufacturer.

If your techs only solution is to uninstall SP-2, you should find a
competent tech and get a better opinion.
Uninstalling is only the first part of the solution, ask your tech for the
rest of the solution.


But if uninstalling SP2 worked, then SP2 must have been the problem. Ok,
so you can muck about with the Firewall ( if you can call it that) and
then things may work. But even MS have put a list up of software that do
not work correctly with SP2.

You just can not come to terms that SP2 could be at fault

"...then SP2 must have been the problem."
That is not always true and you should know that.
There are a multitude of possibilities and stopping at the first possible
solution while compromising the computer system is not a good option.
SP-2 sometimes is at fault, but not near as often as some critics would like
to think.

As for "list up of software that do not work correctly with SP2"
Check the information again and you will notice there are fixes for almost
everything.
In some cases all that was needed is to install an update or patch.
Sometimes these updates or patches were available long before SP-2.
But the user has to look for them.
Compromising security on a computer system so a fix for another program is
not needed may not be the best fix.

Finally there is a good way to help determine the cause if there is a
problem and nothing else seems to work.
Swap to a spare hard drive.
Install Windows XP and SP-2.
If appropriate install hardware and/or software associated with the problem.
If the problem is not there, the problem is with the original configuration.
If the problem is still there, you now have a more reliable view of the
exact problem.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"AD" wrote in message
But if uninstalling SP2 worked, then SP2 must have been the problem. Ok,
so you can muck about with the Firewall ( if you can call it that) and
then things may work. But even MS have put a list up of software that do
not work correctly with SP2.

You just can not come to terms that SP2 could be at fault

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:03:33 -0700, Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

And a computer with spyware, viruses, or other problems whether known or
unknown may cause problems when SP-2 is installed.
Be sure you place the fault in the correct place.
Just because the problem becomes visible when a Service Pack is installed,
does not mean the Service Pack is the cause.

Hopefully you do not count to much on that repairman, you need someone with
an interest in your computer security and not in how much he can make from
you.

A well maintained computer is less likely to have problems related to a
Service Pack installation:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

Yeah and and a computer repairman told someone I know that the IDE ports on
his motherboard were going bad when he started getting HD non-recognition
and errors after he added a new video card. Turned out the power supply
was too weak (which I diagnosed by disconnecting some of the stuff he had
in the computer.)

SP2 works fine for me, but then I practice safe hex. ;o)

Patty

"AD" wrote in message
...
Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
More than likely you have another problem with the computer.
The potential list is long and it is sometimes necessary to check for
compatibility issues with each hardware component and software
manufacturer.

If your techs only solution is to uninstall SP-2, you should find a
competent tech and get a better opinion.
Uninstalling is only the first part of the solution, ask your tech for
the rest of the solution.


But if uninstalling SP2 worked, then SP2 must have been the problem. Ok,
so you can muck about with the Firewall ( if you can call it that) and
then things may work. But even MS have put a list up of software that do
not work correctly with SP2.

You just can not come to terms that SP2 could be at fault

Curious.

If you're going to be a devote of the "if this happens, that must be true,"
line of thinking how do you explain the literally millions of successful
installations.

Logic suggests that if a thing works well on a thousand computers and not on
ten the problem likely lies with the ten computers.

Anecdotally I have three Windows XP computers on which SP2 caused no
difficulties.

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What were the problems you experienced when SP2 was installed?

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"Pat & Steve" wrote in message
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"Pat & Steve" wrote in message
...
I just found out that the microsoft updat----service pack2 was what
was
causing my problems with installing new software. I also found out
from
computer repairman that this update is causing all kinds of
problems for
people with printers and other programs on their computers..so I
uninstalled
the lousy program, I never had any problems with my computer until
this
update. So if you installed this update and are now having
problems with
your computers, this might be the cause.

"Pat & Steve" wrote in message
...
I just found out that the microsoft updat----service pack2 was what was
causing my problems with installing new software. I also found out from
computer repairman that this update is causing all kinds of problems for
people with printers and other programs on their computers..so I
uninstalled
the lousy program, I never had any problems with my computer until this
update. So if you installed this update and are now having problems with
your computers, this might be the cause.

I had to install and uninstall SP2 a few time before I got it to work. Don't
blame your system quirks on a fine upgrade. If you do not upgrade to SP2 you
will not be able to install the latest security updates and will leave
yourself open to attack. So my advice try it again and again until you find
the problem.
I now have SP2 and all the updates to it and my system is running flawlessly
as it did before SP2. I've found that most people's problems are the junk
memory they buy instead of buying certified memory to save money. Junk cheap
memory is borderline functional and will screw you up sometime when you
least expect it.

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
"...then SP2 must have been the problem."

That is not always true and you should know that.

Not always, but a lot of the time.

There are a multitude of possibilities and stopping at the first possible
solution while compromising the computer system is not a good option.
SP-2 sometimes is at fault, but not near as often as some critics would like
to think.

But you must admit, SP2 do cause a lot of problems, if you know
something about computers it may be possible to sort them out, but if
you know nothing then you are stuck.



As for "list up of software that do not work correctly with SP2"
Check the information again and you will notice there are fixes for almost
everything.

Almost, but still some that will not work.


In some cases all that was needed is to install an update or patch.
Sometimes these updates or patches were available long before SP-2.
But the user has to look for them.
Compromising security on a computer system so a fix for another program is
not needed may not be the best fix.

True, I agree, if you can get a fix, some software do not have support
anymore, so getting any fixes is not possible.
Security is not really compromised if you do not install SP2, if you are
sensible and keep virus checkers and firewalls up to date.
Use a decent email client instead of Outlook express and that will also
help and get rid of Internet Exploder.



Finally there is a good way to help determine the cause if there is a
problem and nothing else seems to work.
Swap to a spare hard drive.
Install Windows XP and SP-2.
If appropriate install hardware and/or software associated with the problem.
If the problem is not there, the problem is with the original configuration.
If the problem is still there, you now have a more reliable view of the
exact problem.

Yes, that is true, but not everyone have got a spare hard drive, you are
talking about people like me or you that have strange things like spare
hard drives hanging around.

HillBillyBuddhist wrote:



Curious.

If you're going to be a devote of the "if this happens, that must be true,"
line of thinking how do you explain the literally millions of successful
installations.

There are millions of computers out there running Windows XP fine, but
it still do not mean that XP do not have problems.


Logic suggests that if a thing works well on a thousand computers and not on
ten the problem likely lies with the ten computers.

Yes, i can see where you are comming from, but not everyone uses the
same software and have the same hardware.


Anecdotally I have three Windows XP computers on which SP2 caused no
difficulties.

Then you are lucky, I have installed SP2 on 3 or more computers and they
are working fine, but then these computers are almost identicle.
Same motherboard, same software, same video, same cpum same memory and
so on. But different people use different software and got different
hardware. This is one mahjor problem with P.Cs compatibility problems
can and do happen.