Can not do a System Restore ! !

Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a System Restore? Last one I did successfully was back in December. Now today I tried numerous dates and not one will work, not even on the last successful one. I even tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help

you have to many restore points and could be full, open my computer right
click hard drive click on diskclean up wait for it to scan files then click
on second window click more options then click system restore clean up close
window and cancel first window you should only have one restore point

"JcapsJ" wrote:


Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a System Restore? Last
one I did successfully was back in December. Now today I tried numerous
dates and not one will work, not even on the last successful one. I
even tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help


--
JcapsJ

Hi,

It could be a corrupt restore point. If this is the case all the
restore points will have to deleted. To do so System Restore will
have to Turned off and then on again.

Turn off System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Select the Turn off System Restore check box (or the Turn off
System Restore on all drives check box), and then click OK.
4. Click Yes when you receive the prompt to the turn off System
Restore.
5. Restart the system.

Turn on System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Clear the Turn off System Restore check box (or the Turn off System
Restore on all drives check box), and then click OK.
4. Restart the system.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


JcapsJ wrote:
Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a System
Restore? Last one I did successfully was back in
December. Now today I tried numerous dates and not one
will work, not even on the last successful one. I even
tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help

correct you should only have a couple of restore points if it get's over
loaded it does not work

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi,

It could be a corrupt restore point. If this is the case all the
restore points will have to deleted. To do so System Restore will
have to Turned off and then on again.

Turn off System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Select the Turn off System Restore check box (or the Turn off
System Restore on all drives check box), and then click OK.
4. Click Yes when you receive the prompt to the turn off System
Restore.
5. Restart the system.

Turn on System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Clear the Turn off System Restore check box (or the Turn off System
Restore on all drives check box), and then click OK.
4. Restart the system.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


JcapsJ wrote:
Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a System
Restore? Last one I did successfully was back in
December. Now today I tried numerous dates and not one
will work, not even on the last successful one. I even
tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help

Hi Raymond,

System Restore doesn't work this way. When the space allotted to hold
the restore points fills up,
WinXP will delete the oldest ones to free space for new ones.

Here a snip from the following article:

Microsoft Windows XP System Restore (Windows XP Technical Articles)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...mrestore_intro

snip
Restore point creation and storage

During the restore point creation operation, System Restore takes a
snapshot of the registry and some key dynamic data stores, makes an
entry into a restore point log, and saves the registry and datastore
copies into an archive. Over time the archive collects multiple
restore points, each of which represents the system state at various
points in time. These points in time are made visible to the user in
the System Restore user interface. The restore point archive of System
Restore resides in the system volume information directory, which is a
hidden system directory. This archive is protected by the system ACLs
in NTFS. Over time the files, registries, and logs associated with
older restore points will be purged on a first-in-first-out (FIFO)
basis, limiting the amount of disk space used by System Restore and
creating sufficient storage space for new restore points.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

raymond wrote:
correct you should only have a couple of restore points
if it get's over loaded it does not work

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi,

It could be a corrupt restore point. If this is the case
all the restore points will have to deleted. To do so
System Restore will have to Turned off and then on
again.

Turn off System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Select the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Click Yes when you receive the prompt to the turn off
System Restore.
5. Restart the system.

Turn on System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Clear the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Restart the system.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


JcapsJ wrote:
Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a System
Restore? Last one I did successfully was back in
December. Now today I tried numerous dates and not one
will work, not even on the last successful one. I even
tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help

hi bert

when my system restore did not work i read up on it and since i have been
clearing it on a regular basis it works fine, mind you i have not had to use
it for some time

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi Raymond,

System Restore doesn't work this way. When the space allotted to hold
the restore points fills up,
WinXP will delete the oldest ones to free space for new ones.

Here a snip from the following article:

Microsoft Windows XP System Restore (Windows XP Technical Articles)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...mrestore_intro

snip
Restore point creation and storage

During the restore point creation operation, System Restore takes a
snapshot of the registry and some key dynamic data stores, makes an
entry into a restore point log, and saves the registry and datastore
copies into an archive. Over time the archive collects multiple
restore points, each of which represents the system state at various
points in time. These points in time are made visible to the user in
the System Restore user interface. The restore point archive of System
Restore resides in the system volume information directory, which is a
hidden system directory. This archive is protected by the system ACLs
in NTFS. Over time the files, registries, and logs associated with
older restore points will be purged on a first-in-first-out (FIFO)
basis, limiting the amount of disk space used by System Restore and
creating sufficient storage space for new restore points.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

raymond wrote:
correct you should only have a couple of restore points
if it get's over loaded it does not work

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi,

It could be a corrupt restore point. If this is the case
all the restore points will have to deleted. To do so
System Restore will have to Turned off and then on
again.

Turn off System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Select the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Click Yes when you receive the prompt to the turn off
System Restore.
5. Restart the system.

Turn on System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Clear the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Restart the system.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


JcapsJ wrote:
Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a System
Restore? Last one I did successfully was back in
December. Now today I tried numerous dates and not one
will work, not even on the last successful one. I even
tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help

Hi Raymond,

Each System Restore point created depends on all the previous restore
points, much as a link of a chain. Once one link, or restore point is
damaged the chain is damaged and needs to be replaced. In your case I
suspect this is what happened, and wiping all the restore points out
fixed the problem. Rather than cleaning it out in the future, perform
a restore to test it's integrity. The restore point can always be
undone. If System Restore work correctly at this point leave it alone
and let it do it's job.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/



raymond wrote:
hi bert

when my system restore did not work i read up on it and
since i have been clearing it on a regular basis it works
fine, mind you i have not had to use it for some time

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi Raymond,

System Restore doesn't work this way. When the space
allotted to hold the restore points fills up,
WinXP will delete the oldest ones to free space for new
ones.

Here a snip from the following article:

Microsoft Windows XP System Restore (Windows XP
Technical Articles)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...mrestore_intro

snip
Restore point creation and storage

During the restore point creation operation, System
Restore takes a snapshot of the registry and some key
dynamic data stores, makes an entry into a restore point
log, and saves the registry and datastore copies into an
archive. Over time the archive collects multiple restore
points, each of which represents the system state at
various points in time. These points in time are made
visible to the user in the System Restore user
interface. The restore point archive of System Restore
resides in the system volume information directory,
which is a hidden system directory. This archive is
protected by the system ACLs in NTFS. Over time the
files, registries, and logs associated with older
restore points will be purged on a first-in-first-out
(FIFO) basis, limiting the amount of disk space used by
System Restore and creating sufficient storage space for
new restore points.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

raymond wrote:
correct you should only have a couple of restore points
if it get's over loaded it does not work

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi,

It could be a corrupt restore point. If this is the
case all the restore points will have to deleted. To
do so System Restore will have to Turned off and then
on again.

Turn off System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Select the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Click Yes when you receive the prompt to the turn
off System Restore.
5. Restart the system.

Turn on System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Clear the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Restart the system.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


JcapsJ wrote:
Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a
System Restore? Last one I did successfully was back
in December. Now today I tried numerous dates and
not one will work, not even on the last successful
one. I even tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help

JcapsJ wrote:

What could possibly be preventing me from doing a System Restore? Last
one I did successfully was back in December. Now today I tried numerous
dates and not one will work, not even on the last successful one. I
even tried yesterdays date.

If it has got into trouble, it is probably only possible to fix it by
clearing it out and letting it start clean. System Restore. Check
'Disable System Restore, and OK, reboot. Now have Folder Options - View
set to show Hidden files, and *not* Hide Protected mode ones and delete
everything in the System Volume Information folder on each drive

Start SR up again, and I suggest reviewing the settings for each drive.
There is not much point having it enabled on data drives, and on ones
with System or Programs I would reduce the space allotted if more than
say 1GB - I use 500MB, the minimum is 200 which will only handle maybe a
week of points. But the default of 12% of a drive seems too much for
its own good on modern large drives

--
Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies)
Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit)

Thank you everyone, now I have to fix a couple other problems before I start up new restore points.

Originally Posted by Bert Kinney

Hi Raymond,

Each System Restore point created depends on all the previous restore
points, much as a link of a chain. Once one link, or restore point is
damaged the chain is damaged and needs to be replaced. In your case I
suspect this is what happened, and wiping all the restore points out
fixed the problem. Rather than cleaning it out in the future, perform
a restore to test it's integrity. The restore point can always be
undone. If System Restore work correctly at this point leave it alone
and let it do it's job.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/



raymond wrote:
hi bert

when my system restore did not work i read up on it and
since i have been clearing it on a regular basis it works
fine, mind you i have not had to use it for some time

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi Raymond,

System Restore doesn't work this way. When the space
allotted to hold the restore points fills up,
WinXP will delete the oldest ones to free space for new
ones.

Here a snip from the following article:

Microsoft Windows XP System Restore (Windows XP
Technical Articles)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...mrestore_intro

snip
Restore point creation and storage

During the restore point creation operation, System
Restore takes a snapshot of the registry and some key
dynamic data stores, makes an entry into a restore point
log, and saves the registry and datastore copies into an
archive. Over time the archive collects multiple restore
points, each of which represents the system state at
various points in time. These points in time are made
visible to the user in the System Restore user
interface. The restore point archive of System Restore
resides in the system volume information directory,
which is a hidden system directory. This archive is
protected by the system ACLs in NTFS. Over time the
files, registries, and logs associated with older
restore points will be purged on a first-in-first-out
(FIFO) basis, limiting the amount of disk space used by
System Restore and creating sufficient storage space for
new restore points.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

raymond wrote:
correct you should only have a couple of restore points
if it get's over loaded it does not work

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi,

It could be a corrupt restore point. If this is the
case all the restore points will have to deleted. To
do so System Restore will have to Turned off and then
on again.

Turn off System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Select the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Click Yes when you receive the prompt to the turn
off System Restore.
5. Restart the system.

Turn on System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Clear the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Restart the system.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


JcapsJ wrote:
Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a
System Restore? Last one I did successfully was back
in December. Now today I tried numerous dates and
not one will work, not even on the last successful
one. I even tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help

I have also encountered this problem with my system restore. I recived
spyware on my computer that I cannot get rid of, though I have tried
numerous programs. So I tried system restore but my computer had the
same problem. I want to fix it with out deleting the saved system
restore points like a previous post suggested. If I delete the
previous saved points, then how will I be able to fix my spyware
problem? Anyone have any suggestions or know how to get rid of the
spywa
shopping wizard which brings up search pop ups and is always changing
my home page to about:blank This program also likes messing around
with my favorites folder, and adding stuff to it.

Thanks for the help w/ sys restore. I did the BIG fix of turning off,
rstarting, then turning on, then testing. Works fine, and I plan on keeping
the restore points to a minimum by deleting them. A good idea in any case,
as they do seem to use quite a bit of memory.

"JcapsJ" wrote:


*Thank you everyone, now I have to fix a couple other problems before I
start up new restore points.*


Bert Kinney Wrote:
Hi Raymond,

Each System Restore point created depends on all the previous restore
points, much as a link of a chain. Once one link, or restore point is
damaged the chain is damaged and needs to be replaced. In your case I
suspect this is what happened, and wiping all the restore points out
fixed the problem. Rather than cleaning it out in the future, perform
a restore to test it's integrity. The restore point can always be
undone. If System Restore work correctly at this point leave it alone
and let it do it's job.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/



raymond wrote:-
hi bert

when my system restore did not work i read up on it and
since i have been clearing it on a regular basis it works
fine, mind you i have not had to use it for some time

"Bert Kinney" wrote:
-
Hi Raymond,

System Restore doesn't work this way. When the space
allotted to hold the restore points fills up,
WinXP will delete the oldest ones to free space for new
ones.

Here a snip from the following article:

Microsoft Windows XP System Restore (Windows XP
Technical Articles)
http://tinyurl.com/4mhgz

snip
Restore point creation and storage

During the restore point creation operation, System
Restore takes a snapshot of the registry and some key
dynamic data stores, makes an entry into a restore point
log, and saves the registry and datastore copies into an
archive. Over time the archive collects multiple restore
points, each of which represents the system state at
various points in time. These points in time are made
visible to the user in the System Restore user
interface. The restore point archive of System Restore
resides in the system volume information directory,
which is a hidden system directory. This archive is
protected by the system ACLs in NTFS. Over time the
files, registries, and logs associated with older
restore points will be purged on a first-in-first-out
(FIFO) basis, limiting the amount of disk space used by
System Restore and creating sufficient storage space for
new restore points.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/

raymond wrote:-
correct you should only have a couple of restore points
if it get's over loaded it does not work

"Bert Kinney" wrote:

Hi,

It could be a corrupt restore point. If this is the
case all the restore points will have to deleted. To
do so System Restore will have to Turned off and then
on again.

Turn off System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Select the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Click Yes when you receive the prompt to the turn
off System Restore.
5. Restart the system.

Turn on System Restore using these steps:
1. Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click
Properties.
2. Click the System Restore tab.
3. Clear the Turn off System Restore check box (or the
Turn off System Restore on all drives check box), and
then click OK.
4. Restart the system.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney [MS-MVP DTS]
http://dts-l.org/


JcapsJ wrote:
Hi,
What could possibly be preventing me from doing a
System Restore? Last one I did successfully was back
in December. Now today I tried numerous dates and
not one will work, not even on the last successful
one. I even tried yesterdays date.
thanks for any help---


--
JcapsJ

Thanks so much for your help. I did not get Windows Restore to work,
but I did download the AVG Anti-Virus software you suggested and it
found around 500 viruses including the about:blank Virus, AVG is
amazing, thanks so much for the help in solving my problem.