Vista RAM Requirements

My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run smoothly
and reasonably fast.

Is that incorrect?

How much VRAM for Good Performance?

DSH

"BSchnur" wrote in message
om...

Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
120G hard drive.

Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.

I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
don't really see the point for the move in my situation.

--
Barry Schnur

It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs just fine with
1 GB RAM.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
smoothly and reasonably fast.

Is that incorrect?

How much VRAM for Good Performance?

DSH

"BSchnur" wrote in message
om...

Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
120G hard drive.

Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.

I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
don't really see the point for the move in my situation.

--
Barry Schnur

More detail please.

What can one do and not do with 1 GB of RAM.

The "Most People" Argument is not helpful.

Video RAM?

DSH

"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...

It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs just fine
with 1 GB RAM.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
smoothly and reasonably fast.

Is that incorrect?

How much VRAM for Good Performance?

DSH

"BSchnur" wrote in message
om...

Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
120G hard drive.

Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.

I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
don't really see the point for the move in my situation.

--
Barry Schnur

You can do anything Vista does with only the minimum amount of RAM (512 MB)
installed. More RAM may make Vista faster. There is no way of knowing where
the sweet spot is for any given computer and user. Most people would notice
a big difference going from 512 MB to 1 GB. Improvements above 1 GB are less
noticeable, again depending on the speed of the CPU. hard drive, and hat you
are using the computer for.

In all versions of Windows more RAM is better. How much better can only be
determined by using the computer. No one can tell you in absolute terms.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
More detail please.

What can one do and not do with 1 GB of RAM.

The "Most People" Argument is not helpful.

Video RAM?

DSH

"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...

It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs just fine
with 1 GB RAM.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

My understanding is that Vista Ultimate wants 2 GIGS of RAM to run
smoothly and reasonably fast.

Is that incorrect?

How much VRAM for Good Performance?

DSH

"BSchnur" wrote in message
om...

Fair enough, these days, a mid-range laptop tends to ship with a 80G to
120G hard drive.

Folks considering upgrading a notebook in place, really should
reconsider by and large, especially for notebooks more than 1 year old.

I got my most recent notebook in the fall -- in theory it can run Vista
32 nicely (T7200, 945 video, 1G DDR2 dual channel RAM, 100G), but I
don't really see the point for the move in my situation.

--
Barry Schnur

Again, with respect, I say you are focusing on the WRONG issues...

Involving some hypothecated hardware/software issues associated with a
particular user and his or her usage habits.

Please:

Don't focus on ANY current hardware/software system -- mine or someone
else's. I may buy an entirely NEW system if you can tell me TEN Good
Reasons why Vista is so much better than XP Pro SP2.

Focus On The Capabilities & Limitations Of VISTA.

Tell me what VISTA can do that XP Pro SP2 can't -- that is something more
than fluff, smoke and mirrors.

I already knew my XP system can be used with Multiple Languages -- but NOW
know a Vista system cannot -- unless you buy Ultimate.

Then, you may still have to pay for language packs and activate each one or
some similar ruddy time-wasting thing.

No one will tell me about that.

So, for Multi-Language -- XP Pro is FAR better -- unless someone can tell me
otherwise -- and they have not, so far.

But we live in Hope.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Fortem Posce Animum

Exitus Acta Probat

"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...

You can do anything Vista does with only the minimum amount of RAM (512
MB) installed. More RAM may make Vista faster. There is no way of knowing
where the sweet spot is for any given computer and user. Most people would
notice a big difference going from 512 MB to 1 GB. Improvements above 1 GB
are less noticeable, again depending on the speed of the CPU. hard drive,
and hat you are using the computer for.

In all versions of Windows more RAM is better. How much better can only be
determined by using the computer. No one can tell you in absolute terms.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

My, you are having fun with these guys, aren't you..


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Again, with respect, I say you are focusing on the WRONG issues...

Involving some hypothecated hardware/software issues associated with a
particular user and his or her usage habits.

Please:

Don't focus on ANY current hardware/software system -- mine or someone
else's. I may buy an entirely NEW system if you can tell me TEN Good
Reasons why Vista is so much better than XP Pro SP2.

Focus On The Capabilities & Limitations Of VISTA.

Tell me what VISTA can do that XP Pro SP2 can't -- that is something more
than fluff, smoke and mirrors.

I already knew my XP system can be used with Multiple Languages -- but NOW
know a Vista system cannot -- unless you buy Ultimate.

Then, you may still have to pay for language packs and activate each one
or
some similar ruddy time-wasting thing.

No one will tell me about that.

So, for Multi-Language -- XP Pro is FAR better -- unless someone can tell
me
otherwise -- and they have not, so far.

But we live in Hope.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Fortem Posce Animum

Exitus Acta Probat

"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...

You can do anything Vista does with only the minimum amount of RAM (512
MB) installed. More RAM may make Vista faster. There is no way of knowing
where the sweet spot is for any given computer and user. Most people
would notice a big difference going from 512 MB to 1 GB. Improvements
above 1 GB are less noticeable, again depending on the speed of the CPU.
hard drive, and hat you are using the computer for.

In all versions of Windows more RAM is better. How much better can only
be determined by using the computer. No one can tell you in absolute
terms.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca



--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

What does any of this have to do with your original question? I was
answering what looked like a legitimate question. I guess your agenda wasn't
to get a legitimate answer but to find someone who would answer with what
you want to hear.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Again, with respect, I say you are focusing on the WRONG issues...

Involving some hypothecated hardware/software issues associated with a
particular user and his or her usage habits.

Please:

Don't focus on ANY current hardware/software system -- mine or someone
else's. I may buy an entirely NEW system if you can tell me TEN Good
Reasons why Vista is so much better than XP Pro SP2.

Focus On The Capabilities & Limitations Of VISTA.

Tell me what VISTA can do that XP Pro SP2 can't -- that is something more
than fluff, smoke and mirrors.

I already knew my XP system can be used with Multiple Languages -- but NOW
know a Vista system cannot -- unless you buy Ultimate.

Then, you may still have to pay for language packs and activate each one
or
some similar ruddy time-wasting thing.

No one will tell me about that.

So, for Multi-Language -- XP Pro is FAR better -- unless someone can tell
me
otherwise -- and they have not, so far.

But we live in Hope.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Fortem Posce Animum

Exitus Acta Probat

"Kerry Brown" *a*m wrote in message
...

You can do anything Vista does with only the minimum amount of RAM (512
MB) installed. More RAM may make Vista faster. There is no way of knowing
where the sweet spot is for any given computer and user. Most people
would notice a big difference going from 512 MB to 1 GB. Improvements
above 1 GB are less noticeable, again depending on the speed of the CPU.
hard drive, and hat you are using the computer for.

In all versions of Windows more RAM is better. How much better can only
be determined by using the computer. No one can tell you in absolute
terms.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Again, with respect, I say you are focusing on the WRONG issues...

Involving some hypothecated hardware/software issues associated with a
particular user and his or her usage habits.

Please:

Don't focus on ANY current hardware/software system -- mine or someone
else's. I may buy an entirely NEW system if you can tell me TEN Good
Reasons why Vista is so much better than XP Pro SP2.

Focus On The Capabilities & Limitations Of VISTA.

Tell me what VISTA can do that XP Pro SP2 can't -- that is something more
than fluff, smoke and mirrors.

I already knew my XP system can be used with Multiple Languages -- but NOW
know a Vista system cannot -- unless you buy Ultimate.

Then, you may still have to pay for language packs and activate each one
or some similar ruddy time-wasting thing.

No one will tell me about that.

So, for Multi-Language -- XP Pro is FAR better -- unless someone can tell
me otherwise -- and they have not, so far.

So wait, how do you define Multi-Language?

Switch the entire OS to a different language or just input support for other
languages such as Japanese IME?

--
Stephan Rose
2003 Yamaha R6

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Today, Kerry Brown made these interesting comments ...

You can do anything Vista does with only the minimum amount of
RAM (512 MB) installed. More RAM may make Vista faster. There
is no way of knowing where the sweet spot is for any given
computer and user. Most people would notice a big difference
going from 512 MB to 1 GB. Improvements above 1 GB are less
noticeable, again depending on the speed of the CPU. hard
drive, and hat you are using the computer for.

In all versions of Windows more RAM is better. How much better
can only be determined by using the computer. No one can tell
you in absolute terms.

Kerry, minimum system requirements are just that, minimums, and are
developed to maximize the potential customer base. I have personal
experience with XP Pro SP1 and SP2 at 512 meg, 1 gig, and up to 4
gig, of which XP steals the top gig for itself. 512 meg SP1 is a
dog, I can't imagine how something as large as Vista would run.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
...
Today, Kerry Brown made these interesting comments ...

You can do anything Vista does with only the minimum amount of
RAM (512 MB) installed. More RAM may make Vista faster. There
is no way of knowing where the sweet spot is for any given
computer and user. Most people would notice a big difference
going from 512 MB to 1 GB. Improvements above 1 GB are less
noticeable, again depending on the speed of the CPU. hard
drive, and hat you are using the computer for.

In all versions of Windows more RAM is better. How much better
can only be determined by using the computer. No one can tell
you in absolute terms.

Kerry, minimum system requirements are just that, minimums, and are
developed to maximize the potential customer base. I have personal
experience with XP Pro SP1 and SP2 at 512 meg, 1 gig, and up to 4
gig, of which XP steals the top gig for itself. 512 meg SP1 is a
dog, I can't imagine how something as large as Vista would run.

--
HP, aka Jerry

MS says Vista runs on 512 MB, so I'd guess that's accurate since I haven't
tried it. What it can do with 512, and how fast it can do it, is another
matter.
I've seen plenty of machines running XP Pro just fine with 128 MB RAM,
though XP is not recommended on less than 512 MB if you're going to be
playing games and running apps that eat RAM.
The average home user will need at least 1 GB for Vista, possibly 2 GB. If
you want the latest FPS, get at least 2 GB. If you will only ever use it
for web browsing and email, 1 GB or even 512 MB should be fine.

Today, Kerry Brown made these interesting comments ...

It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs
just fine with 1 GB RAM.


Kerry, nothing runs fine with only 1 gig. Run, yes. Fine, no. Not
even XP Pro SP1 can, I know.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Bingo!

DSH

"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
...

Today, Kerry Brown made these interesting comments ...

It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs
just fine with 1 GB RAM.


Kerry, nothing runs fine with only 1 gig. Run, yes. Fine, no. Not
even XP Pro SP1 can, I know.

--
HP, aka Jerry

My son's running Vista Ultimate with 1GB RAM. Games, streaming video, DVD's,
without issue. I define "without issue" as "fine."

Lang

"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
...
Today, Kerry Brown made these interesting comments ...

It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs
just fine with 1 GB RAM.


Kerry, nothing runs fine with only 1 gig. Run, yes. Fine, no. Not
even XP Pro SP1 can, I know.

--
HP, aka Jerry

Today, Lang Murphy made these interesting comments ...

My son's running Vista Ultimate with 1GB RAM. Games, streaming
video, DVD's, without issue. I define "without issue" as
"fine."

OK. I'm curious, Lang. How much RAM does your son have? I assume
from your reply to me that it is 1 gig or less. Also, what are his
main purpose(s) for using a PC, e.g., web surfing or word
processing vs processing large mega pixel digital camera images. A
subjective adjective like "fine" in this context highly depends on
one's perception and, as you say, you use it to mean "I ain't had
no problems".

Lang

"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
...
Today, Kerry Brown made these interesting comments ...

It depends on what you are doing. For most people Vista runs
just fine with 1 GB RAM.


Kerry, nothing runs fine with only 1 gig. Run, yes. Fine, no.
Not even XP Pro SP1 can, I know.

--
HP, aka Jerry





--
HP, aka Jerry

Ive also been wondering the same thing. Will Vista run ok on my machine with
the following spec and for the following uses...

1.8ghz processor, 1x1gb RAM (its actually about 856mb or something), 80gb
HD, 256mb graphics card.

For use with Photoshop, web surfing, dreamweaver web building, matlab
mathmatical coding and word processing. I never have much music on my laptop
(max 2gb) and i dont really store any pictures or watch videos.

Seems as you guys cant decide without the specifics maybe you can for me.
Ive used the Vista upgrade advisor and it says my machine should be ok (with
uninstalling a few apps as the drivers arent ready for them) but i know of
people that have still had problems.

Whats your opinion? :-)