Firefox problem?

Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As
I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I
tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error
message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a
list.

I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the
original XP version. Never used it as I recall.

Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script?

I'm using XP Home.

TIA


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KenK wrote:
Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As
I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I
tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error
message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a
list.

I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the
original XP version. Never used it as I recall.

Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script?

I'm using XP Home.

TIA

JS is built into the browser.
Which FF?
Is JS enabled?
Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode?

KenK wrote:

Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin Firefox. As
I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I think I need it. I
tried again but though I continue to have problems I can't get the error
message. Web site features don't work such as selecting my state from a
list.

So what add-ons did you install into Firefox?

Paul in Houston TX wrote in
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KenK wrote:
Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin
Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I
think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems
I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as
selecting my state from a list.

I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the
original XP version. Never used it as I recall.

Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script?

I'm using XP Home.

TIA

JS is built into the browser.
Which FF?

52.0

Is JS enabled?

How? I don't see it in Options

Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode?

How? I don't see that in Options/Security





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KenK wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote in
news
KenK wrote:
Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin
Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I
think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have problems
I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as
selecting my state from a list.

I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably the
original XP version. Never used it as I recall.

Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script?

I'm using XP Home.

TIA
JS is built into the browser.
Which FF?

52.0

Is JS enabled?

How? I don't see it in Options

Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode?

How? I don't see that in Options/Security


In the URL bar

about:config

Agree to accept the risk.

In the search bar in that dialog:

javascript

You will see an item

javascript.enable TRUE/FALSE

I suspect that's a boolean that affects Javascript
for the browser. Double-click to toggle. (Note - do
*not* delete entries in that interface, as there is
no undo. I did that once... OMG, what an adventure.)

Now, what's unclear, is what the browser does when it
needs to read prefs.js :-) So "Javascript off", doesn't
mean for everything. Just the Internet facing side I
would suspect.

Paul

KenK wrote:


JS is built into the browser.
Which FF?

52.0

Ahh...I believe that FF has disabled Java (not JavaScript, they are
very different things) support in version 52.0. *Not* something I'm
happy about. So check the error message carefully - is it actually
referring to Java? If the web page you're using is trying to use a
Java applet, you'll have to try a different browser.

--
Tim Slattery
tim at risingdove dot com

Tim Slattery wrote:

KenK wrote:


JS is built into the browser.
Which FF?

52.0

Ahh...I believe that FF has disabled Java (not JavaScript, they are
very different things) support in version 52.0. *Not* something I'm
happy about. So check the error message carefully - is it actually
referring to Java? If the web page you're using is trying to use a
Java applet, you'll have to try a different browser.

Yeah but...I had read on Slashdot that Firefox was dropping support
for Java. But I just got upgraded to version 52 on Vista, and I'm
still able to do the Newsday and New York Times crosswords, which use
Java Applets.

So I don't know what's going on with the OP.

--
Tim Slattery
tim at risingdove dot com

Tim Slattery wrote:

Ahh...I believe that FF has disabled Java (not JavaScript, they are
very different things) support in version 52.0. *Not* something I'm
happy about. So check the error message carefully - is it actually
referring to Java? If the web page you're using is trying to use a
Java applet, you'll have to try a different browser.

Because the OP separated the words "Java" and "Script", it is unclear if
he is complaining that Java applets no longer work or if Javascripted
web pages no longer work. Java is not Javascript.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(...mming_language)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript

Java support wwithin a web browser is via a plug-in. Oracle has yet to
get away from its NPAPI plug-in for Java (but note below where they tell
developers to migrate to their Java Web Start platform).

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurerelea...ns-in-firefox/
Dated Oct 8, 2015.

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurerelea...on-in-firefox/

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269807

Means it won't work under Google Chrome (or other Chromium derivatives),
either, since they deprecated NPAPI long before Mozilla. Chromium
deprecated NPAPI awhile ago.

https://www.chromium.org/developers/npapi-deprecation

This isn't news to Oracle. They've known for a long time (years) that
NPAPI was going to get discontinued. See:

https://www.java.com/en/download/help/firefox_java.xml

The first hit was back in 2013 when Mozilla changed the default behavior
of some plug-ins to block them from loading by default. That is,
instead of defaulting to "Always activate", they changed "Ask to
activate" (with the added "Never activate" option). See:

https://news.slashdot.org/story/13/1...oing-down-well
(The original linked-to page no longer exists.)

Here's one still around:

https://techcrunch.com/2013/09/23/say-goodbye-to-npapi/

Oracle knew back in 2013, if not before, that NPAPI was going away. Did
they develop a web API replacement? No, they stuck their heads in the
sand and ignored the change. Well, they didn't bother with an NPAPI
plug-in replacement but rely on their users switching to Java Web Start.

https://blogs.oracle.com/java-platfo..._a_plugin_free
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Web_Start

Oracle announced that plug-in support was deprecated in JDK 9 over a
year ago and will be completely removed in a future version.

https://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/0...rowser-plugin/

Back to the OP's issue, and assuming "Java Script" means Javascript and
not Java, each web browser incorporates a Javascript engine but that
doesn't mean Javascript is currently enabled. It is enabled, by
default, at install time but users can disable it. However, users may
employ add-ons that toggle Javascript because having to drill into
about:config is a nuisance and obscure for the majority of users to go
change the javascript.enabled setting.

Visit one of the many sites that will test if Javascript is enabled or
not in the web browser you use when visiting the test site.

https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...script-enabled
http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/

VanguardLH wrote in :

http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/

Result is NO.

Tried

about:config

and search does not find Javascript.



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Paul wrote in news
KenK wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote in
news
KenK wrote:
Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin
Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I
think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have
problems
I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as
selecting my state from a list.

I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably
the
original XP version. Never used it as I recall.

Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script?

I'm using XP Home.

TIA
JS is built into the browser.
Which FF?

52.0

Is JS enabled?

How? I don't see it in Options

Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode?

How? I don't see that in Options/Security


In the URL bar

about:config

Agree to accept the risk.

In the search bar in that dialog:

javascript

Nope. Nothing shows up. Another in this conversation said to try

http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/

Which says NO.

You will see an item

javascript.enable TRUE/FALSE

I suspect that's a boolean that affects Javascript
for the browser. Double-click to toggle. (Note - do
*not* delete entries in that interface, as there is
no undo. I did that once... OMG, what an adventure.)

Now, what's unclear, is what the browser does when it
needs to read prefs.js :-) So "Javascript off", doesn't
mean for everything. Just the Internet facing side I
would suspect.

Paul




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I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

Tim Slattery wrote:

Tim Slattery wrote:

KenK wrote:


JS is built into the browser.
Which FF?

52.0

Ahh...I believe that FF has disabled Java (not JavaScript, they are
very different things) support in version 52.0. *Not* something I'm
happy about. So check the error message carefully - is it actually
referring to Java? If the web page you're using is trying to use a
Java applet, you'll have to try a different browser.

Yeah but...I had read on Slashdot that Firefox was dropping support
for Java. But I just got upgraded to version 52 on Vista, and I'm
still able to do the Newsday and New York Times crosswords, which use
Java Applets.

So I don't know what's going on with the OP.

I'm not wasting my time to subscribe at the New York Times for what
should be a publicly accessible crossword. So I cannot test what their
current crossword actually uses for scripting. They had a link to an
archived version saying that one was free.

http://www.nytimes.com/crosswords/game/daily/2013/08/03

That one doesn't use Java. I don't even have to look at the page source
to determine if Java was used or not. How do I know Java is not used
there? Because I have not had the Java plug-in installed in any web
browser for many years. I haven't needed it since 2008 when I left an
employer that used Java applets, and anywhere else that I visited that
demanded Java just had me go elsewhere for the same content without the
Java plug-in requirement. I don't have the Java plug-in so how could
that crossword page be working if it required Java?

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment...zzle-1.6375288

That's a link to a PDF file. I don't read Newsday so I don't know where
else to find the crossword. The above link was found through a Google
search. I went to newsday.com and clicked on the Crossword link under
the More section. That took me to the same page offering PDF downloads.

Rather than hunt around for online crosswords that actually use Java or
any other web page employing Java, you can test if the Java plug-in is
working in your web browser by visiting:

https://www.whatismybrowser.com/dete...java-installed
https://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp

Note that I switched to the 64-bit version of Firefox a few months ago.
That does not support the Java plug-in. Visting:

https://www.java.com/en/download/ins...jsp?detect=jre

has Oracle saying:

We have detected you are using the 64-bit version of Firefox which
will not run the Java plugin. Use the Java Control Panel to find the
installed Java version.

While Oracle has a 64-bit JRE, do they have a 64-bit NPAPI plug-in or is
it still 32-bit (i.e., a 32-bit plug-in in a 64-bit JRE bundle)?

KenK wrote in news:XnsA7385E821E54Binvalidcom@
130.133.4.11:

Here is the error message I got from one web site:

"Your computer or network appears to be blocking scripts. Please unblock
scripts from payments.volusion.com to complete your transaction."

Comments? Suggestions?

Another browser? If so, which one?

Paul wrote in news
KenK wrote:
Paul in Houston TX wrote in
news
KenK wrote:
Today I've not been able to properly use several web sites usin
Firefox. As I reall, the error was something about Java Script - I
think I need it. I tried again but though I continue to have
problems
I can't get the error message. Web site features don't work such as
selecting my state from a list.

I can't get my old MS IE browser to work at all. This is probably
the
original XP version. Never used it as I recall.

Suggestions? If I need it, how to get and install Java Script?

I'm using XP Home.

TIA
JS is built into the browser.
Which FF?

52.0

Is JS enabled?

How? I don't see it in Options

Have you tried a booting into FF safe mode?

How? I don't see that in Options/Security


In the URL bar

about:config

Agree to accept the risk.

In the search bar in that dialog:

javascript

Nope. Nothing shows up. Another in this conversation said to try

http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/

Which says NO.

You will see an item

javascript.enable TRUE/FALSE

I suspect that's a boolean that affects Javascript
for the browser. Double-click to toggle. (Note - do
*not* delete entries in that interface, as there is
no undo. I did that once... OMG, what an adventure.)

Now, what's unclear, is what the browser does when it
needs to read prefs.js :-) So "Javascript off", doesn't
mean for everything. Just the Internet facing side I
would suspect.

Paul







--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH:

http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/

Result is NO.

Tried about:config and search does not find Javascript.

A search on "javascript" (and nothing else add, just "javascript" by
itself) should have found around 44 settings. To find the relevant
setting, search on "javascript.enabled" (obviously without the double
quotes used here to delineate the search criteria) so you don't have to
wade through all the other Javascript-related settings.

Search on "javascript" (sans double quotes) in about:config:
http://imgur.com/a/3FUoS
(click on image to enlarge)

Search on "javascript.enabled" (sans double quotes) in about:config:
http://imgur.com/a/fj8rD

Are you using the Search input field provided at the top of the
about:config page or some other means of searching the list of settings?

In message , KenK
writes:
KenK wrote in news:XnsA7385E821E54Binvalidcom@
130.133.4.11:

Here is the error message I got from one web site:

"Your computer or network appears to be blocking scripts. Please unblock
scripts from payments.volusion.com to complete your transaction."

Comments? Suggestions?

Ah. It would seem possible that you've added a no-script blocker to your
browser, possibly years ago - either one that blocks all scripts, or
blocks ones from a website other than the one you're addressing, or
blocks ones from a given (possibly online) blacklist, or only allows
ones from a given whitelist. If it's using the blacklist option, and the
blacklist is periodically downloaded from an online source, it is
possible that "payments.volusion.com" has just been added to the
blacklist, either in error or because of something nefarious a script
from that site has been observed to do.

(And I think this would be java_script_ rather than just java.)

Another browser? If so, which one?
[]
Your present one should allow the page to work if you turn off the
script blocker (noscript is the commonest), or add the offending site to
its whitelist/remove it from its blacklist. If you trust the website in
question, of course; from the name, I assume it's something to do with
handling payments.
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VanguardLH wrote in :

KenK wrote:

VanguardLH:

http://www.isjavascriptenabled.com/

Result is NO.

Tried about:config and search does not find Javascript.

A search on "javascript" (and nothing else add, just "javascript" by
itself) should have found around 44 settings. To find the relevant
setting, search on "javascript.enabled" (obviously without the double
quotes used here to delineate the search criteria) so you don't have to
wade through all the other Javascript-related settings.

Search on "javascript" (sans double quotes) in about:config:
http://imgur.com/a/3FUoS
(click on image to enlarge)

Search on "javascript.enabled" (sans double quotes) in about:config:
http://imgur.com/a/fj8rD

Says javascript.enabled boolean true

but web sites still say java script blocked by computer or network. I never
had this problem until the past few days but I didn't change or install
anything.

Are you using the Search input field provided at the top of the
about:config page

yes

or some other means of searching the list of settings?




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