Windows updates / Microsoft updates

On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Peter Taylor wrote:
...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
only way to go.

Wanna bet?

Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."

Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...

Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).

When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate

But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:

QP
What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
/QP
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...update/FAQ.msp

If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).

Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.

--
Peter Taylor

On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Peter Taylor wrote:
...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
only way to go.

Wanna bet?

Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."

Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...

Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).

When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate

But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:

QP
What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
/QP
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...update/FAQ.msp

If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).

Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.

--
Peter Taylor

Peter Taylor wrote:
On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Peter Taylor wrote:
...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
only way to go.

Wanna bet?

Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."

Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...

Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).

When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate

But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:

QP
What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
/QP
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...update/FAQ.msp

If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).

Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.

You're welcome & thanks for your feedback. You used to be able to stick
with Windows Update as default and then update Office via Office Update but
the latter was discontinued about a year ago.

Comment: I personally find Automatic Update takes much longer to
download/install updates (which can make AU a real "memory hog" each time it
kicks in) when Microsoft Update is the default. YMMV.

Peter Taylor wrote:
On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Peter Taylor wrote:
...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
only way to go.

Wanna bet?

Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."

Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...

Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).

When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate

But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:

QP
What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
/QP
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...update/FAQ.msp

If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).

Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.

You're welcome & thanks for your feedback. You used to be able to stick
with Windows Update as default and then update Office via Office Update but
the latter was discontinued about a year ago.

Comment: I personally find Automatic Update takes much longer to
download/install updates (which can make AU a real "memory hog" each time it
kicks in) when Microsoft Update is the default. YMMV.

On 8/13/2010 11:37 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Peter Taylor wrote:
On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Peter Taylor wrote:
...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
only way to go.

Wanna bet?

Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."

Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...

Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).

When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate

But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:

QP
What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft
Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
/QP
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...update/FAQ.msp

If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).

Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.

You're welcome & thanks for your feedback. You used to be able to stick
with Windows Update as default and then update Office via Office Update
but the latter was discontinued about a year ago.

Comment: I personally find Automatic Update takes much longer to
download/install updates (which can make AU a real "memory hog" each
time it kicks in) when Microsoft Update is the default. YMMV.

I go to the web site for XP updates. AU is like watching paint dry with
that little yellow shield disappearing and seemingly never coming back.
Windows 7's MU is a big improvement over that.

--
Peter Taylor

On 8/13/2010 11:37 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Peter Taylor wrote:
On 8/13/2010 3:49 AM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Peter Taylor wrote:
...Windows Updates doesn't exist any more so Microsoft Update is the
only way to go.

Wanna bet?

Every time I try to go there, I get redirected to Microsoft Updates.

So what? Just because your default update source is Microsoft Update
doesn't mean Windows Update "doesn't exist any more."

Wanna "flip" back to Windows Update?...

Go to Microsoft Update website | Click on Change Settings in left pane |
Scroll to bottom of page | To Stop Using Microsoft Update | Disable
Microsoft Update software and let me use Windows Update only (check).

When you're done, http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com will take you to
http://update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate instead of
http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate

But you may wanna stick with Microsoft Update:

QP
What are the differences between Windows Updates...and Microsoft
Updates?

While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows,
Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for
other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live [as
well as Silverlight & Microsoft Security Essentials]...
/QP
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/dow...update/FAQ.msp

If Windows Update is your default, Automatic Updates will NOT offer any
updates for Office, Silverlight or Windows Live (but Microsoft Security
Essentials will still continue to auto-update itself).

Thanks for clearing that up. I have Office so, naturally, I want MU.

You're welcome & thanks for your feedback. You used to be able to stick
with Windows Update as default and then update Office via Office Update
but the latter was discontinued about a year ago.

Comment: I personally find Automatic Update takes much longer to
download/install updates (which can make AU a real "memory hog" each
time it kicks in) when Microsoft Update is the default. YMMV.

I go to the web site for XP updates. AU is like watching paint dry with
that little yellow shield disappearing and seemingly never coming back.
Windows 7's MU is a big improvement over that.

--
Peter Taylor

Peter Taylor wrote:
snip
I go to the web site for XP updates. AU is like watching paint dry with
that little yellow shield disappearing and seemingly never coming back.
Windows 7's MU is a big improvement over that.

You'll typically only see that behavior in months where bazillions of
updates were released on Patch Tuesday (e.g., Aug-10). Furthermore, you'd
see the behavior in all Windows versions as they're all updating via the
same, swamped update servers (though there appear to be more of them,
working more efficiently, these days).

• Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates� icon does not
display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
service
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340

Peter Taylor wrote:
snip
I go to the web site for XP updates. AU is like watching paint dry with
that little yellow shield disappearing and seemingly never coming back.
Windows 7's MU is a big improvement over that.

You'll typically only see that behavior in months where bazillions of
updates were released on Patch Tuesday (e.g., Aug-10). Furthermore, you'd
see the behavior in all Windows versions as they're all updating via the
same, swamped update servers (though there appear to be more of them,
working more efficiently, these days).

• Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates� icon does not
display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
service
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340

On 8/14/2010 8:39 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

• Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates� icon does not
display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
service
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340

I understand now, thanks.

--
Peter Taylor

On 8/14/2010 8:39 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

• Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates� icon does not
display the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates
service
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340

I understand now, thanks.

--
Peter Taylor