Watch TV Remotely

Home network LAN
Hauppauge HVR2255 in a Win 7 PC (1), hardwired to LAN.
PC(1) can run either Windows Media Center or Hauppauge Win TV.

A different Win 7 PC (2) in another room, LAN via WiFi.
All on the same LAN.

I want to watch the TV on PC (2).

What are different ways to do this?

Case1: just watch TV on (2), as set up on PC (1)
Case2: Watch and control the TV from (2) (change channels, etc)

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OldGuy wrote:
Home network LAN
Hauppauge HVR2255 in a Win 7 PC (1), hardwired to LAN.
PC(1) can run either Windows Media Center or Hauppauge Win TV.

A different Win 7 PC (2) in another room, LAN via WiFi.
All on the same LAN.

I want to watch the TV on PC (2).

What are different ways to do this?

Case1: just watch TV on (2), as set up on PC (1)
Case2: Watch and control the TV from (2) (change channels, etc)

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The first is pretty straightforward. Streaming over a network can be
done in several ways.
Here's one using VLC, for free;
https://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=14625

The second is more difficult.
My Hauppauge USB stick TV came with a remote control (which I don't
use). Whether or not yours is powerful enough to reach to the PC (1) can
only be established by trial.
Apart from that there are programs wherewith you can operate desktops
remotely. Win7 has a native one; TeamViewer is free.

Personally I'd be satisfied with just having the first option; and then
either going personally to PC (1) or shouting out "Switch to BBC 1 in a
minute" or maybe "Run the WinTV TV Guide and see which channel has the
best comedy program starting at 9-00pm".

Ed

On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:25:38 -0700, OldGuy wrote:

Home network LAN
Hauppauge HVR2255 in a Win 7 PC (1), hardwired to LAN.
PC(1) can run either Windows Media Center or Hauppauge Win TV.

A different Win 7 PC (2) in another room, LAN via WiFi.
All on the same LAN.

I want to watch the TV on PC (2).

What are different ways to do this?

Case1: just watch TV on (2), as set up on PC (1)
Case2: Watch and control the TV from (2) (change channels, etc)

Have a look at MediaPortal. It comes as server and client parts. The
server runs the TV card and does and scheduling/recording and serves
live tv. The client side can be installed on the server PC or on
others. You set any recording schedule through the client and it talks
to the server.

http://www.team-mediaportal.com/

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Per OldGuy:
Home network LAN
Hauppauge HVR2255 in a Win 7 PC (1), hardwired to LAN.
PC(1) can run either Windows Media Center or Hauppauge Win TV.

A different Win 7 PC (2) in another room, LAN via WiFi.
All on the same LAN.

I want to watch the TV on PC (2).

What are different ways to do this?

3 ideas - in ascending order of cost:

1) TeamViewer (free): install on the Win 7 PC and on
the different PC. Connect to the Win 7 PC....
Just tried it here and the lip sync wasn't great,
but YYMV and I think it's worth a try considering
the cost. Windows' RemoteDesktop would also be
worth trying if it came with your Windows system.

2) HD HomeRun LAN-Attached Tuners: I can't find a price
on a single-tuner model, but the two-tuner model
is about $115. Once that puppy is on your LAN,
you effectively have a tuner card in any PC on the
LAN. Viewing is via one of the utilities that comes
with the tuner. Also, they have an Android app
that lets you watch TV on your tablet or phone.
Dunno from iPad, but I'd be optimistic.

Finally, it looks like Silicon Dust (HD HomeRun's
maker) is getting into the software-based DVR business,
adding to the attractiveness of that solution.

3) SlingBox: Possibly wretched excess at $200+. Analogous
to the HD HomeRun in that it acts as a tuner card
connected to your LAN, but it also allows watching
TV from anywhere in the world. And it has apps
for Windows, Android, and probably IOS.

I'm not in love with the UI, but it definitely works
and dynamically adjusts for LAN speed.


Two Caveats:
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1) Raw HD TV generally does not play well over older
WiFi (i.e. "N") but works pretty well over "AC".

Not sure if HD HomeRun adjusts for this, but it's
worth looking into. For sure, SlingBox looks at
the connection speed and diddles the video stream
accordingly - taking WiFi bandwidth out of the equation.

TeamViewer has options like "Optimize Quality" vs
"Optimize Performance" and these are probably worth
playing around with.

2) All my experience is with OTA TV. Cable is another
ball game - but HD and Sling both claim to do it.

For sure, HD HomeRun comes in a cable-friendly version.
Google "HD HomeRun Prime cable".

SlingBox also does cable. Google "Slingbox Cable Card".





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On 09 Aug 2015, Ed Cryer wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

The first is pretty straightforward. Streaming over a network can
be done in several ways.
Here's one using VLC, for free;
https://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=14625

I couldn't get this to work following these directions. I go through
the setup instructions, and at the end, VLC crashes. This happened on
two different computers, one XP, the other Win7.

On 8/9/2015 10:41 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
OldGuy wrote:
Home network LAN
Hauppauge HVR2255 in a Win 7 PC (1), hardwired to LAN.
PC(1) can run either Windows Media Center or Hauppauge Win TV.

A different Win 7 PC (2) in another room, LAN via WiFi.
All on the same LAN.

I want to watch the TV on PC (2).

What are different ways to do this?

Case1: just watch TV on (2), as set up on PC (1)
Case2: Watch and control the TV from (2) (change channels, etc)

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The first is pretty straightforward. Streaming over a network can be
done in several ways.
Here's one using VLC, for free;
https://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=14625

The second is more difficult.
My Hauppauge USB stick TV came with a remote control (which I don't
use). Whether or not yours is powerful enough to reach to the PC (1) can
only be established by trial.
Apart from that there are programs wherewith you can operate desktops
remotely. Win7 has a native one; TeamViewer is free.

Personally I'd be satisfied with just having the first option; and then
either going personally to PC (1) or shouting out "Switch to BBC 1 in a
minute" or maybe "Run the WinTV TV Guide and see which channel has the
best comedy program starting at 9-00pm".

Ed

I have a win7 PC with 4 tuners that I use for time shifting TV
via MediaCenter.
I record everything I want to watch.
Currently, I'm about 2.5GB behind in my time shifting.
Turns out that all that stuff that I really wanted to watch
doesn't seem so important when I have something else to do.

I watch it locally or remotely using VLC.
Main reason is that VLC makes it very easy to run it at faster speed.
Once I got used to it, I can playback at between 1.7x and 2.0x speed
depending on content.
I can't bear to watch a documentary at 1x...I keep falling asleep.

Saves a lot of time. ;-) And you can play it while it's still recording.
So, it's almost real time. It's a 2.6GHZ dual core Dell that runs
pretty near redline when recording 4 channels and watching a recorded
one. But it doesn't skip.

Bad news is that it takes a LOT of network bandwidth. Wired ethernet,
no problem. Wireless gets iffy unless you have a fast machine and
you're not too far away.
If you have a lower bandwidth file format, it's very easy to do it
wirelessly.

I'm just reading the recorded file using VLC.
I've had generally bad luck trying to actually stream TV over wifi.

VLC doesn't have any problem playing .wtv files on a windows or linux
machine.

Excellent info. Thanks.

My base station (home), using SlingBox, would input from roof-top
antenna.
I did not see that option. (I have no cable or satellite, etc)
Will that work?

I would then try to view 200 miles away on a fast PC where there is
zero TV antenna reception.

The upload speed at the base station is a DSL line at around 0.65Mb/sec
How does that affect the picture quality on the receiving remote end?
Is there a recommended minimum upload speed?

BTW Download at remote is 2.5Mb/sec.

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Per OldGuy:
My base station (home), using SlingBox, would input from roof-top
antenna.
I did not see that option. (I have no cable or satellite, etc)
Will that work?

Yes. If your regular TV works, the SlingBox will work too.
Depending on how many TVs/Tuners your OTA antenna is feeding you might
need an amplified splitter instead of just a regular splitter. I have 2
TVs, four tuners, and the SlingBox and it all works a-ok with an
amplified splitter.

Lately, channel 6 (Philly) has started breaking up, but I am swapping
the UHF antenna for a mid-size VHF and that seems to fix it without
breaking the UHF channels like 12.

I would then try to view 200 miles away on a fast PC where there is
zero TV antenna reception.

The upload speed at the base station is a DSL line at around 0.65Mb/sec
How does that affect the picture quality on the receiving remote end?
Is there a recommended minimum upload speed?

You will have to Google that. I have not tried the extreme of DSL.
I have however watched successfully over WiFi at a remote location -
WiFi presumably being the bottleneck.

Flip me an email: confirm at-sign fatbelly fullstop com and I will give
you an ID/PW so you can connect to my SlingBox and give it a try.

It's on you to figure out what app (if any) you need for the PC...I've
forgotten... although just last nite I saw freebie apps for Android.

BTW Download at remote is 2.5Mb/sec.
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Per (PeteCresswell):
It's on you to figure out what app (if any) you need for the PC...I've
forgotten... although just last nite I saw freebie apps for Android.

http://tinyurl.com/ofk2ttq

https://www.google.com/search?newwin...29.yrrTQevLpuk
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