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  #16  
Old June 4th 15, 06:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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On 06/03/2015 01:20 PM, s|b wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:55:31 +0000, Stormin' Norman wrote:

I have successfully flashed 5 Asus routers with DD-WRT. I had one problem,
which resulted in my having to recover the router back to it's factory firmware,
which was not a big deal.


Flashed 3 Linksys/Cisco E2000 routers with DD-WRT. No problem
whatsoever. DD-WRT enabled me to boost the signal (with success).


One of the other things DD-WRT allows you do fo is local DNS. You can
assign names to devices on your network, making them easier to find (I
do a lot of remote access, and have networked printers). Also, DNS can
be used to intercept certain URLs (like a hosts file, but network wide).

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  #17  
Old August 7th 15, 04:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Seymore4Head
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On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 22:36:29 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:50:12 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 21:00:21 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:55:31 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:40:32 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 22:35:02 +0000, Stormin' Norman
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:59:21 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

I bought a Asus RT-AC66U router on impulse while shopping for
something else.

I have wanted the capability to use my USB printer as a network
printer without having to keep a computer on 24/7, but it was not a
priority. I also wanted to have another USB port so I could have a
network drive without leaving a computer on 24/7.

Now that I get it home and out of the box. I would also like to be
able to monitor how much bandwidth each computer is using. Tech
support says that the router I just bought doesn't do that. I am told
that even the top of the line Asus router doesn't do that.

Having bandwidth capability is not a big priority, but it would be
nice. Is that a common feature for new routers? What brand?


Here, take a look at this information about DD-WRT firmware for many routers.

http://www.flashrouters.com/blog/201...g-with-dd-wrt/

I have actually read about that at life hacker. It says turn a 60$
router into a 600$ router. I don't understand how features like that
would add so much cost to a router if you can get software that does
it for free?

I am not too comfortable with messing with factory settings. I end up
breaking stuff instead of improving it.


I have successfully flashed 5 Asus routers with DD-WRT. I had one problem,
which resulted in my having to recover the router back to it's factory firmware,
which was not a big deal.

Where there 3 people knocking on the door wanting to know....what have
you done to the Internet this time?


I am by far, old enough to know better than to do any such modification to a
production appliance. Only after thorough testing do I put such devices into
service. I am in a business environment and fortunately, it is my
business......


Congratulations. Having 4 out of 5 successful stories is probably why
you get paid to do this stuff and I don't.

The DD-WRT seems like a pretty slick piece of code. I was going to
try to "Turn Your Old Router into a Range-Boosting Wi-Fi Repeater"
http://lifehacker.com/5563196/turn-y...wi-fi-repeater

and I may still do that without the DD-WRT. I took my router brand
and version number and came to this page:
http://dd-wrt.com/site/support/router-database

Since there was more than one choice I decided to pass.

With my odds, I would turn it into a brick 9 out of 9 times.


I actually did start using my old router as another wireless point a
few days after I bought the new router by Googling this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=turn...utf-8&oe=utf-8
and I watched a couple of the videos and it worked.

I think I might be having problems with IP conflicts though.

http://imgur.com/AQGu8q6

I have to figure what I should use for the IP ranges.

I have the ASUS as the main router/wireless and it goes to an 8 port
switch and then it is connected to a 4 port wireless set up as an
access point.

Shouldn't I change the ASUS range to at least 100?

How do I find out what the IP range is for the 8 port switch?

The access point is set up as 192.168.1.2
  #18  
Old August 7th 15, 05:28 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:10:50 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

I actually did start using my old router as another wireless point a
few days after I bought the new router by Googling this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=turn...utf-8&oe=utf-8
and I watched a couple of the videos and it worked.

I think I might be having problems with IP conflicts though.


Why do you say that?

http://imgur.com/AQGu8q6


You should enter values for Default Gateway and DNS Server. Normally, those
IP's would be the LAN IP for the router.

I have to figure what I should use for the IP ranges.


The DHCP range doesn't need to be that big, and in fact shouldn't be that
big. In your case, you need to at least exclude the IP address of the access
point, 192.168.1.2. I would suggest a much smaller range, for example .50 to
..99 or if you need a bigger range perhaps .100 to .199. Statically assign
the IP for the access point so that DHCP doesn't mess with it. Be sure that
DHCP is disabled on the access point! You never want two DHCP servers on the
same subnet.

I have the ASUS as the main router/wireless and it goes to an 8 port
switch and then it is connected to a 4 port wireless set up as an
access point.

Shouldn't I change the ASUS range to at least 100?


See above. At least move the DHCP range so that the IP for the access point
is outside of that range.

How do I find out what the IP range is for the 8 port switch?


Switches operate at Layer 2 of the OSI model. There are no IP addresses
there. Layer 2 switches are plug and play.

The access point is set up as 192.168.1.2


Fine, but get that IP out of the DHCP range and make sure DHCP is disabled
on the access point.

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  #19  
Old August 7th 15, 09:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Seymore4Head
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:28:24 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:10:50 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

I actually did start using my old router as another wireless point a
few days after I bought the new router by Googling this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=turn...utf-8&oe=utf-8
and I watched a couple of the videos and it worked.

I think I might be having problems with IP conflicts though.


Why do you say that?


I say that because I lost Internet. Tech support for ASUS had me walk
through resetting the router with everything unplugged and resetting
the router. I think the access point IP address is conflicting with
the range of IP addresses that are assigned to the other computers
connected to the 8 port switch.

I got everything up and working again and the last thing I plugged
back in was the wireless access point. Now after starting back from
a single computer plugged into the router, it will connect to the
Internet again.

http://imgur.com/AQGu8q6


You should enter values for Default Gateway and DNS Server. Normally, those
IP's would be the LAN IP for the router.

I have to figure what I should use for the IP ranges.


The DHCP range doesn't need to be that big, and in fact shouldn't be that
big. In your case, you need to at least exclude the IP address of the access
point, 192.168.1.2. I would suggest a much smaller range, for example .50 to
.99 or if you need a bigger range perhaps .100 to .199. Statically assign
the IP for the access point so that DHCP doesn't mess with it. Be sure that
DHCP is disabled on the access point! You never want two DHCP servers on the
same subnet.

I have the ASUS as the main router/wireless and it goes to an 8 port
switch and then it is connected to a 4 port wireless set up as an
access point.

Shouldn't I change the ASUS range to at least 100?


See above. At least move the DHCP range so that the IP for the access point
is outside of that range.

How do I find out what the IP range is for the 8 port switch?


Switches operate at Layer 2 of the OSI model. There are no IP addresses
there. Layer 2 switches are plug and play.

The access point is set up as 192.168.1.2


Fine, but get that IP out of the DHCP range and make sure DHCP is disabled
on the access point.

  #20  
Old August 7th 15, 07:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 04:31:34 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:28:24 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:10:50 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

I actually did start using my old router as another wireless point a
few days after I bought the new router by Googling this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=turn...utf-8&oe=utf-8
and I watched a couple of the videos and it worked.

I think I might be having problems with IP conflicts though.


Why do you say that?


I say that because I lost Internet. Tech support for ASUS had me walk
through resetting the router with everything unplugged and resetting
the router. I think the access point IP address is conflicting with
the range of IP addresses that are assigned to the other computers
connected to the 8 port switch.


Well, yes, obviously. I pointed that out in my first reply, quoted below.

What you originally showed was that the router is set to offer a DHCP scope
of 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254, but your access point was configured to use
192.168.1.2, which is obviously inside the DHCP scope. Access points
shouldn't be configured to get their management IP via DHCP, so I
recommended moving the DHCP scope 'up' and out of the way of the
hopefully-statically-assigned access point IP.

One last thing. Windows seems to be pretty good about detecting duplicate
IPs and alerting the user. Did you see that warning?



I got everything up and working again and the last thing I plugged
back in was the wireless access point. Now after starting back from
a single computer plugged into the router, it will connect to the
Internet again.

http://imgur.com/AQGu8q6


You should enter values for Default Gateway and DNS Server. Normally, those
IP's would be the LAN IP for the router.

I have to figure what I should use for the IP ranges.


The DHCP range doesn't need to be that big, and in fact shouldn't be that
big. In your case, you need to at least exclude the IP address of the access
point, 192.168.1.2. I would suggest a much smaller range, for example .50 to
.99 or if you need a bigger range perhaps .100 to .199. Statically assign
the IP for the access point so that DHCP doesn't mess with it. Be sure that
DHCP is disabled on the access point! You never want two DHCP servers on the
same subnet.

I have the ASUS as the main router/wireless and it goes to an 8 port
switch and then it is connected to a 4 port wireless set up as an
access point.

Shouldn't I change the ASUS range to at least 100?


See above. At least move the DHCP range so that the IP for the access point
is outside of that range.

How do I find out what the IP range is for the 8 port switch?


Switches operate at Layer 2 of the OSI model. There are no IP addresses
there. Layer 2 switches are plug and play.

The access point is set up as 192.168.1.2


Fine, but get that IP out of the DHCP range and make sure DHCP is disabled
on the access point.


--

Char Jackson
  #21  
Old August 7th 15, 08:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Seymore4Head
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:58:19 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 04:31:34 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:28:24 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:10:50 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

I actually did start using my old router as another wireless point a
few days after I bought the new router by Googling this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=turn...utf-8&oe=utf-8
and I watched a couple of the videos and it worked.

I think I might be having problems with IP conflicts though.

Why do you say that?


I say that because I lost Internet. Tech support for ASUS had me walk
through resetting the router with everything unplugged and resetting
the router. I think the access point IP address is conflicting with
the range of IP addresses that are assigned to the other computers
connected to the 8 port switch.


Well, yes, obviously. I pointed that out in my first reply, quoted below.

What you originally showed was that the router is set to offer a DHCP scope
of 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254, but your access point was configured to use
192.168.1.2, which is obviously inside the DHCP scope. Access points
shouldn't be configured to get their management IP via DHCP, so I
recommended moving the DHCP scope 'up' and out of the way of the
hopefully-statically-assigned access point IP.

One last thing. Windows seems to be pretty good about detecting duplicate
IPs and alerting the user. Did you see that warning?



I got everything up and working again and the last thing I plugged
back in was the wireless access point. Now after starting back from
a single computer plugged into the router, it will connect to the
Internet again.

http://imgur.com/AQGu8q6

You should enter values for Default Gateway and DNS Server. Normally, those
IP's would be the LAN IP for the router.

I have to figure what I should use for the IP ranges.

The DHCP range doesn't need to be that big, and in fact shouldn't be that
big. In your case, you need to at least exclude the IP address of the access
point, 192.168.1.2. I would suggest a much smaller range, for example .50 to
.99 or if you need a bigger range perhaps .100 to .199. Statically assign
the IP for the access point so that DHCP doesn't mess with it. Be sure that
DHCP is disabled on the access point! You never want two DHCP servers on the
same subnet.

I have the ASUS as the main router/wireless and it goes to an 8 port
switch and then it is connected to a 4 port wireless set up as an
access point.

Shouldn't I change the ASUS range to at least 100?

See above. At least move the DHCP range so that the IP for the access point
is outside of that range.

How do I find out what the IP range is for the 8 port switch?

Switches operate at Layer 2 of the OSI model. There are no IP addresses
there. Layer 2 switches are plug and play.

The access point is set up as 192.168.1.2

Fine, but get that IP out of the DHCP range and make sure DHCP is disabled
on the access point.


Thanks for the suggestions.
I will give that a shot.
  #22  
Old August 15th 15, 03:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Seymore4Head
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:58:19 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 04:31:34 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:28:24 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 23:10:50 -0400, Seymore4Head
wrote:

I actually did start using my old router as another wireless point a
few days after I bought the new router by Googling this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=turn...utf-8&oe=utf-8
and I watched a couple of the videos and it worked.

I think I might be having problems with IP conflicts though.

Why do you say that?


I say that because I lost Internet. Tech support for ASUS had me walk
through resetting the router with everything unplugged and resetting
the router. I think the access point IP address is conflicting with
the range of IP addresses that are assigned to the other computers
connected to the 8 port switch.


Well, yes, obviously. I pointed that out in my first reply, quoted below.

What you originally showed was that the router is set to offer a DHCP scope
of 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.254, but your access point was configured to use
192.168.1.2, which is obviously inside the DHCP scope. Access points
shouldn't be configured to get their management IP via DHCP, so I
recommended moving the DHCP scope 'up' and out of the way of the
hopefully-statically-assigned access point IP.

One last thing. Windows seems to be pretty good about detecting duplicate
IPs and alerting the user. Did you see that warning?

For some reason I didn't see this post when it was posted. I happened
to see it in searching for my newest post that never showed up.

There is no warning from my machine when I boot the computer. It is
just not connected to the Internet. I can unplug the switch that is
connected to the access point and reboot and my computer will boot.
Since the access point is in my nephew's room and he works at night
and sleeps during the day, I really can't confirm if the access point
is working after that. All the other computers that are connected to
the switch work.

I did change the range to .100 to .199 that doesn't fix the problem.


I got everything up and working again and the last thing I plugged
back in was the wireless access point. Now after starting back from
a single computer plugged into the router, it will connect to the
Internet again.

http://imgur.com/AQGu8q6

You should enter values for Default Gateway and DNS Server. Normally, those
IP's would be the LAN IP for the router.

I have to figure what I should use for the IP ranges.

The DHCP range doesn't need to be that big, and in fact shouldn't be that
big. In your case, you need to at least exclude the IP address of the access
point, 192.168.1.2. I would suggest a much smaller range, for example .50 to
.99 or if you need a bigger range perhaps .100 to .199. Statically assign
the IP for the access point so that DHCP doesn't mess with it. Be sure that
DHCP is disabled on the access point! You never want two DHCP servers on the
same subnet.

I have the ASUS as the main router/wireless and it goes to an 8 port
switch and then it is connected to a 4 port wireless set up as an
access point.

Shouldn't I change the ASUS range to at least 100?

See above. At least move the DHCP range so that the IP for the access point
is outside of that range.

How do I find out what the IP range is for the 8 port switch?

Switches operate at Layer 2 of the OSI model. There are no IP addresses
there. Layer 2 switches are plug and play.

The access point is set up as 192.168.1.2

Fine, but get that IP out of the DHCP range and make sure DHCP is disabled
on the access point.

 




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