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  #16  
Old August 14th 15, 08:27 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia[_4_]
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Ophelia wrote:


Since you are an anarchist which means not polite, I will do just like
you did: I'll start a new thread sometime later for my reply because,
gee, the Subject line will somewhat similar although not the same. See
my other disconnected new thread when it shows up later. Enjoy your own
style exhibited by others. Hey, your logic so it must be good for you.


Just as you wish. I have no wish to bully people into posting in any way
other than they are happy.

If I miss your post shrug then I miss you post.

I shall be sorry but it won't spoil my day.

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  #17  
Old August 14th 15, 08:29 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia[_4_]
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"mick" wrote in message
...
On 13/08/2015 21:12:55, Ophelia wrote:
"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Ophelia wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Ophelia wrote:

Many thanks to everyone who responded to my request. The matter as
been
resolved quickly and satisfactorily using Macrium Reflect.

I am very grateful for ALL the help and advice

Best

O

Please post updates to the original thread (instead of a starting a
disconnected thread). Folks searching for help and finding your
original thread may not see your followup response in a different
thread. Since you started a new thread, I'll continue the old
discussion here.

I think "Cloning software result" is plain enough!

Whoosh, went over your head. Do NOT start *new* threads to update *old*
discussions. usenet is not a chat room where updates are disconnected
and splattered out randomly. If you have before used web-based forums,
bulletin boards, or mailing lists then you already know that starting
new threads to update old content creates discontinuity.


Whoooosh

As it happens I have called it "Cloning Software Result" Next time I
might
call it a Bunch of Bananas.

If I do ... what do you intend to do about it?

New thread = new topic. There are some exceptions, like an update much
later that you've lost your audience (not the case here); however, folks
researching the same problem or the same inquiry may not see the
disconnected reply in a different thread. Unlike chat rooms and texting
where immediacy is expected and messages quickly expire, Usenet has
history that can be utilized. Just because you don't retain its history
doesn't preclude others from using it. It is not only about who is
reading the group now. It is also about who reads these articles at
some later time. Continuity is provided via threading, not by a jumbled
mess of disconnected posts.


I see! My original post had 'Cloning Software in the subject line!
After
several kind people responded, I decided to share the Cloning Software
*RESULTS*. I realise that might have come as a shock, but I am a polite
and
grateful person.

So, (now stay with me) I decided to call it Cloning Software
RESULTS' I can see how that could be a surprise, but you were clever
enough
to spot it?? Surprising eh? ....

Think about e-mail. Someone sends you a message. You want to reply.
Do you actually reply to them to keep the conversation threaded? Or do
you compose a completely disconnected and new message to start the
conversation from scratch? Even if you don't quote anything of their
content in your reply, the References header will thread the
conversation so it is, well, a conversation. Starting a whole new
thread (no References header) means the other party gets a disconnected
and unthread reply from you. Conversations are threaded.

You updated your original thread to thank the responders. So why not
update that same thread about your results in using their suggestions?
I suspect you started a new thread because it was one week later you
tried a suggestion and reported the result. A week is not long in
Usenet but it is in chat rooms and when texting. Also, in case some
searches Usenet and finds your new thread (updating an old thread),
don't expect them to go hunting around for your old thread. Give the
Message-ID for the old thread so they can find it to provide context.


I expect nothing. As it happens that mattered not one jot, because you
were
clever enough to spot it weren't you?

*smile* You need to know that your bullying doesn't work on me. Trust
me
when I say that you will find it is a huge waste of your valuable time.

Have you swapped the cloned drive for the primary drive to ensure the
cloned drive operates the same as the primary drive? That is, have
you
tested the cloned drive?

Yes ... yes and it works perfectly.

Good to know the product's cloning works and the freeware version is
usable by users that, for example, would like to upsize their drive
capacity.


You are most welcome *sweet smile*


First of all thank you for bothering to post your findings with respect to
the cloning issue. It will set a lot of people at ease when trying the
same cloning technique.


You are very welcome. I was grateful for the help and advice I received
here.

But tell me. When you saw my post, did you recognise it for what it was?


On the other hand I do have to agree with Vanguard's comments. You should
have posted in the original thread as that was the topic you and everyone
else was discussing, all you needed to do was post a reply to the original
thread and change the header of that post to Cloning software RESULT. It
would then stand out within the thread therefore allowing people
referencing it in the future to skim through most of the other posts to
get to the solution. ;-)


Ahh yes. That would be a good idea. Thank you for suggesting it!


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  #18  
Old August 14th 15, 09:16 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bob Henson[_2_]
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On 13/08/2015 11:58 pm, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 8/13/2015 4:56 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Ophelia wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Ophelia wrote:

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Ophelia wrote:

Many thanks to everyone who responded to my request. The matter as
been
resolved quickly and satisfactorily using Macrium Reflect.

I am very grateful for ALL the help and advice

Best

O

Please post updates to the original thread (instead of a starting a
disconnected thread). Folks searching for help and finding your
original thread may not see your followup response in a different
thread. Since you started a new thread, I'll continue the old
discussion here.

I think "Cloning software result" is plain enough!

Whoosh, went over your head. Do NOT start *new* threads to update *old*
discussions. usenet is not a chat room where updates are disconnected
and splattered out randomly. If you have before used web-based forums,
bulletin boards, or mailing lists then you already know that starting
new threads to update old content creates discontinuity.

Whoooosh

As it happens I have called it "Cloning Software Result" Next time I might
call it a Bunch of Bananas.

If I do ... what do you intend to do about it?

New thread = new topic. There are some exceptions, like an update much
later that you've lost your audience (not the case here); however, folks
researching the same problem or the same inquiry may not see the
disconnected reply in a different thread. Unlike chat rooms and texting
where immediacy is expected and messages quickly expire, Usenet has
history that can be utilized. Just because you don't retain its history
doesn't preclude others from using it. It is not only about who is
reading the group now. It is also about who reads these articles at
some later time. Continuity is provided via threading, not by a jumbled
mess of disconnected posts.

I see! My original post had 'Cloning Software in the subject line! After
several kind people responded, I decided to share the Cloning Software
*RESULTS*. I realise that might have come as a shock, but I am a polite and
grateful person.

So, (now stay with me) I decided to call it Cloning Software
RESULTS' I can see how that could be a surprise, but you were clever enough
to spot it?? Surprising eh? ....

Think about e-mail. Someone sends you a message. You want to reply.
Do you actually reply to them to keep the conversation threaded? Or do
you compose a completely disconnected and new message to start the
conversation from scratch? Even if you don't quote anything of their
content in your reply, the References header will thread the
conversation so it is, well, a conversation. Starting a whole new
thread (no References header) means the other party gets a disconnected
and unthread reply from you. Conversations are threaded.

You updated your original thread to thank the responders. So why not
update that same thread about your results in using their suggestions?
I suspect you started a new thread because it was one week later you
tried a suggestion and reported the result. A week is not long in
Usenet but it is in chat rooms and when texting. Also, in case some
searches Usenet and finds your new thread (updating an old thread),
don't expect them to go hunting around for your old thread. Give the
Message-ID for the old thread so they can find it to provide context.

I expect nothing. As it happens that mattered not one jot, because you were
clever enough to spot it weren't you?

*smile* You need to know that your bullying doesn't work on me. Trust me
when I say that you will find it is a huge waste of your valuable time.

Have you swapped the cloned drive for the primary drive to ensure the
cloned drive operates the same as the primary drive? That is, have you
tested the cloned drive?

Yes ... yes and it works perfectly.

Good to know the product's cloning works and the freeware version is
usable by users that, for example, would like to upsize their drive
capacity.

You are most welcome *sweet smile*


Since you are an anarchist which means not polite, I will do just like
you did: I'll start a new thread sometime later for my reply because,
gee, the Subject line will somewhat similar although not the same. See
my other disconnected new thread when it shows up later. Enjoy your own
style exhibited by others. Hey, your logic so it must be good for you.


I think You take yourself and Usenet a little (LOT) too seriously VanguardH.
Are you a netcop? if so show your credentials


I'm not a netcop and I don't have any credentials, only many, many
years of reading newsgroups. Amongst all the tripe that Vanguard posts
from time to time, there is a lot of good advice. On this occasion he is
quite correct. It is a nuisance to have all these disconnected jottings
around and to try to follow a thread when they jump from pillow to post
is not easy. If no one points out to newcomers how it should be done the
newsgroups would quickly become unreadable - particularly to those of us
who read a lot of groups and many messages. The Google Groups users, the
HTML posters and the WLM users cause enough problems without further
adding to the chaos.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Assumption - an error of which you are as yet unaware.
  #19  
Old August 14th 15, 09:38 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 8/13/2015 6:16 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

I think You take yourself and Usenet a little (LOT) too seriously VanguardH.
Are you a netcop? if so show your credentials


Never heard of netiquette? It exists in Usenet, too. Ophelia is or


Snip a lot of dry grass.

Yes I know and follow netiquette rules.
Now if your so Gung Ho about this why aren't you hounding the poster
called Good Guy on these newsgroups?
He breaks every usenet rule ever written on a daily basis!!!
Come on Sic Em Rover.

Rene


After awhile of getting irritated with Good Guy, I decided to kill file
him. The following comment was added to the filter:

Good Guy: Nymshifter, started spamming his mytaxsite.co.uk in the
signature of his posts a month after registering it.

Note that there are two "Guys" that I filter. This one (as a side
effect of filtering out posts sourced from remailers) and the poster
that nymshifts to "something Guy" or "something Man" depending in
which newsgroup he posts. He could be:

(Good|TCP|Virus|Spam|Home|98|XP|News|Intel|Netscap e|HVAC) (Guy|Man)

If you know regex, his nym's firstname would be one of the words in the
first parens list and his nym's lastname would be one of the words in
the 2nd parens list. That's from an old comment. He's nymshifted more
since then. I've updated the filter but haven't bothered to lengthen the
comment since it would simply duplicate the regex in the filter. He
even admits to his repeated nymshifting. Alas, his nymshifting is not
only for generating a persona in each newsgroup since he has nymshifted
within newsgroups.

Not sure which Good Guy you refer. Plus I have lots of other kill
filters. The most recent Good Guy posting here is sending through a
remailer (mixmin). I filter out all the anonyiziming sources of posts.
A lot of forgers, trolls, brats, and malcontents post through remailers.
A lot of **** flows out the remailer pipes. For similar reasons, I
filter out (ignore flag and use a view that hides ignored threads) posts
originating from Google Groups. Besides the bad type of posters abusing
Google Groups (the Usenet service, not their web-based private groups),
there are a much higher percentage of uber-boobs posting through the
web-based Google Groups service. Filtering out Google Gropers
eliminates a lot of noise from there. Do I lose some good posts? Yes,
but I eliminate all the overwhelming noise that comes from Google
Groups.

http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
(The original author died but others adopted his content.)

Another source of uber-boobs (Usenet ignorants) are the web-based forum
sites that leech from Usenet. They provide a web-based forum site.
They leech articles from Usenet and let the web boobs post to Usenet
using an HTTP-to-NNTP gateway. This makes their forums look bigger with
more traffic because they steal it from Usenet. The webbies (those
weaned on using only web browsers) know how to use a web site. They
don't know how to install, configure, and use an NNTP client. They
think Usenet is webified because that's the view they get using that
Usenet leeching site. Because of the type of user drawn to use a
web-based forum rather than an NNTP client to participate in Usenet,
that community also has a higher percentage of uber-boobs. I filter out
some but not all of those Usenet leeching HTTP-to-NNTP gateway using
web-based forum sites. Not only are there more uber-boobs posting to
Usenet from there but some HTTP-to-NNTP gateways don't insert in replies
or retain on receive the References header. Threading is lost. Well,
in their web-based forum, there is no threading. Microsoft left Usenet.
Go look at the flat hierarchy shown in their Answers web-based forums.
Sometimes it's impossible to figure out who said what to whom.

I filter out posts from Altopia. That Usenet provider lets its users
prepend their own domain in the PATH header. Altopia states that such
users must prepend alt.com to the user's own string but they don't
enforce or even check for that. So users can lie about their injection
node (first host in the PATH header where each successive peering host
gets prefixed to the string). Since Altopia does use a checker to
ensure its users obey their rules about using their own domain (which
they must register but Altopia doesn't check that, either), posts cannot
be trusted that are sourced from Altopia that the PATH shows the
injection node is Altopia. They let their users lie. alt.com will
still be in the PATH somewhere (after the user's fake prefixed domain in
the list) so I can still filter out posts from Altopia.

I also flag (colorize, not ignore and hide) posters using AIOE. That is
an UNregistered free Usenet provider and quite often the same type of
bad posters use AIOE. They don't have to register. They don't have to
configure their NNTP client to login. They have no account to kill to
penalize them for abuse. No professed abuse policies at AIOE could ever
be enforced because the users don't have to login. Eternal-September is
also a free Usenet provider but they require registration. When
comparing AIOE to ES, a lot more **** flows from the AIOE pipe.

Nymshifters are trolls. Until I'm aware a poster is a troll, I tend to
"not feed the trolls". Still, there are some expert trolls that have
learned to play a noob to lead on any respondents to waste time
researching and composing replies to their lure posts.

At one time, I would review my kill filters to see if a bad poster had
admended their ways over time, like a year. I would search Google
Groups using the "author:nym" or other criteria to review their posts
over the last year to see if they grew up to stop behaving like brats in
Usenet. If they improved, I would delete the filter. Alas, Google has
destroyed the Deja Vu archive by phucking up their search features. The
directives, like author:, date:, and others, were removed. Then they
replaced the search with the one from their Google search which is vague
(used to be you could use directives there, too, or an advanced search
page but those are gone). Then they decided to include their web-based
private forums (someone owns each "forum" or group), so Google's Groups
(forums) got mixed in with "Google Groups" (the Deja Vu archive they
adopted).

So Google has destroyed searchability in that Usenet archive. So my
kill filters will remain until I happen to notice someone that I've
killed has improved their persona. However, the only time that could
happen is when I get curious and decide to view all the ignore-
flagged articles. I ignore the bad posts rather than delete them.
Sometimes someone referes to a bad poster's article and I want to see
what was said (the one citing the bad poster doesn't quote what the bad
poster said). If I deleted the bad posts then I could switch views to
see them. Instead I would have to re-retrieve them from the server.
Sometimes I get bored due to low traffic or already responded to the
posts that interest me, so I peek at the otherwise hidden ignore-flagged
posts to see what's happening in the newsgroup. Also, at times, I might
want to see if my kill filters are working properly. No matter how
tight you try to define a regex filter, it can fire on a post or poster
that you did not intend to filter out. To tweak or check my filters, I
have to see if my filters were generating false positives.

I have a lot of filters that have been created and tweaked over the
years of participating in Usenet to reduce noise so I can concentrate on
the good, well, better posts. Any one of them might've caused Good Guy
to get flagged as ignored (and my default view is Hide Ignored with the
option enabled to ignore all replies, too). When I looked at his
headers in the "Lost password" thread (and where he used HTML which is
verboten in a text-only newsgroup), I suspect he got filtered by my
mixmin/remailer filters. He got filtered out with the other noise
coming from remailers. As long as he uses a remailer, I won't see his
posts, by default, but only if I switch away from the Hide Ignored view
to the All Messages view, like now to see to which Good Guy you might be
referring.
  #20  
Old August 14th 15, 10:10 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Posts: 10,881
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mick wrote:

It is good to have and retain netiquette, self discipline. Without it
newsgroups turn into anarchy, get infiltrated with the less desirables
of society and those that want to carry on move off onto a moderated
forum, which most IMO are difficult to follow with conversations not
being threaded.

Sadly, I think Ophelia's attitude with her statement - "If I do ...
what do you intend to do about it?" - negates her credibility of
posting her thank you in the first place.


I think Ophelia's thank you was heart felt. I disagree on her
submitting discontinuous posts which has become the meaty side issue of
this [sub]thread. I suspect she is a Usenet newbie. She's defending
her ego regarding her choice. That's natural. We all do that.
However, when desiring to meld into a community rather than get
outracized, adults realize they need to conform to the norms of that
community. Maybe she needs to travel more to see how norms vary across
the planet and you decide whether to be a continual tourist or outsider
or to be a member there. You can be stubborn and impose your own norms
or choices but expect negative consequences.

If she sticks around in Usenet, she may realize continuity and
netiquette are important. I see a lot of kids used to chat rooms and
texting who issue disconnected replies from the original thread in
Usenet. That's what they're used to in those communication venues:
blurting. Then the practice the same style in Usenet.

Some behaviors you can never prod someone to change. My sister has
extremely bad handwriting. Can barely tell what she says in her cards.
Worse than my doctor. Teasing about the unintelligibility of her cards
has not improved her handwriting skills.

"Some things can't be helped. Some people, too." ("Christine" movie,
final scene.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIfqdLCTDQA
  #21  
Old August 14th 15, 11:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia[_4_]
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Posts: 106
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...

I think Ophelia's thank you was heart felt.


Of course it was.

I disagree on her
submitting discontinuous posts which has become the meaty side issue of
this [sub]thread.


After it was explained nicely, (not by you) I agreed that I ought to have
included the text from the original, but not that I ought not to have
extended the original subject line.

What I do object to is your authoritarian attitude and the reams you write
to make your point.


--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

  #22  
Old August 14th 15, 02:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Rene Lamontagne
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Posts: 2,549
Default Cloning software result

On 8/14/2015 3:38 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 8/13/2015 6:16 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

I think You take yourself and Usenet a little (LOT) too seriously VanguardH.
Are you a netcop? if so show your credentials

Never heard of netiquette? It exists in Usenet, too. Ophelia is or


Snip a lot of dry grass.

Yes I know and follow netiquette rules.
Now if your so Gung Ho about this why aren't you hounding the poster
called Good Guy on these newsgroups?
He breaks every usenet rule ever written on a daily basis!!!
Come on Sic Em Rover.

Rene


After awhile of getting irritated with Good Guy, I decided to kill file
him. The following comment was added to the filter:

Good Guy: Nymshifter, started spamming his mytaxsite.co.uk in the
signature of his posts a month after registering it.

Note that there are two "Guys" that I filter. This one (as a side
effect of filtering out posts sourced from remailers) and the poster
that nymshifts to "something Guy" or "something Man" depending in
which newsgroup he posts. He could be:

(Good|TCP|Virus|Spam|Home|98|XP|News|Intel|Netscap e|HVAC) (Guy|Man)

If you know regex, his nym's firstname would be one of the words in the
first parens list and his nym's lastname would be one of the words in
the 2nd parens list. That's from an old comment. He's nymshifted more
since then. I've updated the filter but haven't bothered to lengthen the
comment since it would simply duplicate the regex in the filter. He
even admits to his repeated nymshifting. Alas, his nymshifting is not
only for generating a persona in each newsgroup since he has nymshifted
within newsgroups.

Not sure which Good Guy you refer. Plus I have lots of other kill
filters. The most recent Good Guy posting here is sending through a
remailer (mixmin). I filter out all the anonyiziming sources of posts.
A lot of forgers, trolls, brats, and malcontents post through remailers.
A lot of **** flows out the remailer pipes. For similar reasons, I
filter out (ignore flag and use a view that hides ignored threads) posts
originating from Google Groups. Besides the bad type of posters abusing
Google Groups (the Usenet service, not their web-based private groups),
there are a much higher percentage of uber-boobs posting through the
web-based Google Groups service. Filtering out Google Gropers
eliminates a lot of noise from there. Do I lose some good posts? Yes,
but I eliminate all the overwhelming noise that comes from Google
Groups.

http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/
(The original author died but others adopted his content.)

Another source of uber-boobs (Usenet ignorants) are the web-based forum
sites that leech from Usenet. They provide a web-based forum site.
They leech articles from Usenet and let the web boobs post to Usenet
using an HTTP-to-NNTP gateway. This makes their forums look bigger with
more traffic because they steal it from Usenet. The webbies (those
weaned on using only web browsers) know how to use a web site. They
don't know how to install, configure, and use an NNTP client. They
think Usenet is webified because that's the view they get using that
Usenet leeching site. Because of the type of user drawn to use a
web-based forum rather than an NNTP client to participate in Usenet,
that community also has a higher percentage of uber-boobs. I filter out
some but not all of those Usenet leeching HTTP-to-NNTP gateway using
web-based forum sites. Not only are there more uber-boobs posting to
Usenet from there but some HTTP-to-NNTP gateways don't insert in replies
or retain on receive the References header. Threading is lost. Well,
in their web-based forum, there is no threading. Microsoft left Usenet.
Go look at the flat hierarchy shown in their Answers web-based forums.
Sometimes it's impossible to figure out who said what to whom.

I filter out posts from Altopia. That Usenet provider lets its users
prepend their own domain in the PATH header. Altopia states that such
users must prepend alt.com to the user's own string but they don't
enforce or even check for that. So users can lie about their injection
node (first host in the PATH header where each successive peering host
gets prefixed to the string). Since Altopia does use a checker to
ensure its users obey their rules about using their own domain (which
they must register but Altopia doesn't check that, either), posts cannot
be trusted that are sourced from Altopia that the PATH shows the
injection node is Altopia. They let their users lie. alt.com will
still be in the PATH somewhere (after the user's fake prefixed domain in
the list) so I can still filter out posts from Altopia.

I also flag (colorize, not ignore and hide) posters using AIOE. That is
an UNregistered free Usenet provider and quite often the same type of
bad posters use AIOE. They don't have to register. They don't have to
configure their NNTP client to login. They have no account to kill to
penalize them for abuse. No professed abuse policies at AIOE could ever
be enforced because the users don't have to login. Eternal-September is
also a free Usenet provider but they require registration. When
comparing AIOE to ES, a lot more **** flows from the AIOE pipe.

Nymshifters are trolls. Until I'm aware a poster is a troll, I tend to
"not feed the trolls". Still, there are some expert trolls that have
learned to play a noob to lead on any respondents to waste time
researching and composing replies to their lure posts.

At one time, I would review my kill filters to see if a bad poster had
admended their ways over time, like a year. I would search Google
Groups using the "author:nym" or other criteria to review their posts
over the last year to see if they grew up to stop behaving like brats in
Usenet. If they improved, I would delete the filter. Alas, Google has
destroyed the Deja Vu archive by phucking up their search features. The
directives, like author:, date:, and others, were removed. Then they
replaced the search with the one from their Google search which is vague
(used to be you could use directives there, too, or an advanced search
page but those are gone). Then they decided to include their web-based
private forums (someone owns each "forum" or group), so Google's Groups
(forums) got mixed in with "Google Groups" (the Deja Vu archive they
adopted).

So Google has destroyed searchability in that Usenet archive. So my
kill filters will remain until I happen to notice someone that I've
killed has improved their persona. However, the only time that could
happen is when I get curious and decide to view all the ignore-
flagged articles. I ignore the bad posts rather than delete them.
Sometimes someone referes to a bad poster's article and I want to see
what was said (the one citing the bad poster doesn't quote what the bad
poster said). If I deleted the bad posts then I could switch views to
see them. Instead I would have to re-retrieve them from the server.
Sometimes I get bored due to low traffic or already responded to the
posts that interest me, so I peek at the otherwise hidden ignore-flagged
posts to see what's happening in the newsgroup. Also, at times, I might
want to see if my kill filters are working properly. No matter how
tight you try to define a regex filter, it can fire on a post or poster
that you did not intend to filter out. To tweak or check my filters, I
have to see if my filters were generating false positives.

I have a lot of filters that have been created and tweaked over the
years of participating in Usenet to reduce noise so I can concentrate on
the good, well, better posts. Any one of them might've caused Good Guy
to get flagged as ignored (and my default view is Hide Ignored with the
option enabled to ignore all replies, too). When I looked at his
headers in the "Lost password" thread (and where he used HTML which is
verboten in a text-only newsgroup), I suspect he got filtered by my
mixmin/remailer filters. He got filtered out with the other noise
coming from remailers. As long as he uses a remailer, I won't see his
posts, by default, but only if I switch away from the Hide Ignored view
to the All Messages view, like now to see to which Good Guy you might be
referring.



The Good Guy who has a ****y HTML Fetish

Rene

  #23  
Old August 14th 15, 02:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 8/14/2015 8:41 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 8/14/2015 3:38 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 8/13/2015 6:16 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
t only if I switch away from the Hide Ignored view

to the All Messages view, like now to see to which Good Guy you might be
referring.



The Good Guy who has a ****y HTML Fetish

Rene



SNIP

Should have read The Good Guy who has a ****y yellow background HTML Fetish

Rene

  #24  
Old August 14th 15, 03:03 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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| I think Ophelia's thank you was heart felt.
|
| Of course it was.
|
| What I do object to is your authoritarian attitude and the reams you write
| to make your point.
|

Well, that will teach you not to be considerate
in the wrong way. Unfortunately, very few
people actually take the trouble to post follow-ups
at all. Follow-ups about imaging software are
especially useful because it's a time-consuming
product to test. I appreciate you taking the
trouble. Though I would have found it *slightly*
annoying if the subject line had been "bunch of
bananas".

On the bright side, if I understand VLH's system,
you've gone from barbarian status to newbie 3rd
class. So that's something.


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Old August 14th 15, 03:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mayayana" wrote in message
...
| I think Ophelia's thank you was heart felt.
|
| Of course it was.
|
| What I do object to is your authoritarian attitude and the reams you
write
| to make your point.
|

Well, that will teach you not to be considerate
in the wrong way. Unfortunately, very few
people actually take the trouble to post follow-ups
at all. Follow-ups about imaging software are
especially useful because it's a time-consuming
product to test. I appreciate you taking the
trouble.


You are most welcome. I was very grateful for the responses I got. They
were all very useful and helped me to decide which to try.

Though I would have found it *slightly*
annoying if the subject line had been "bunch of
bananas"


Apologies for that I was more than a wee bit annoyed at his long winded
bullying. Another poster made a fair comment about posting the text with it
.... Well I have already said that.



On the bright side, if I understand VLH's system,
you've gone from barbarian status to newbie 3rd
class. So that's something.


Lucky me! g

Thanks for your comments



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  #26  
Old August 14th 15, 08:23 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
mick
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On 14/08/2015 15:35:15, Ophelia wrote:
"Mayayana" wrote in message
...
| I think Ophelia's thank you was heart felt.
|
| Of course it was.
|
What I do object to is your authoritarian attitude and the reams you

write
| to make your point.
|

Well, that will teach you not to be considerate
in the wrong way. Unfortunately, very few
people actually take the trouble to post follow-ups
at all. Follow-ups about imaging software are
especially useful because it's a time-consuming
product to test. I appreciate you taking the
trouble.


You are most welcome. I was very grateful for the responses I got. They
were all very useful and helped me to decide which to try.

Though I would have found it *slightly*
annoying if the subject line had been "bunch of
bananas"


Apologies for that I was more than a wee bit annoyed at his long winded
bullying. Another poster made a fair comment about posting the text with it
... Well I have already said that.


On the bright side, if I understand VLH's system,
you've gone from barbarian status to newbie 3rd
class. So that's something.


Lucky me! g


Yep, you definitely get one star for being calm whilst the flack was
flying your way.
Hope to see you back soon to gain another star.
Five stars and maybe then you'll be treated as a goddess by the old
farts. :-)
Thanks for your comments


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Old August 14th 15, 08:44 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia[_4_]
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"mick" wrote in message
...
On 14/08/2015 15:35:15, Ophelia wrote:
"Mayayana" wrote in message
...
| I think Ophelia's thank you was heart felt.
|
| Of course it was.
|
What I do object to is your authoritarian attitude and the reams you
write
| to make your point.
|

Well, that will teach you not to be considerate
in the wrong way. Unfortunately, very few
people actually take the trouble to post follow-ups
at all. Follow-ups about imaging software are
especially useful because it's a time-consuming
product to test. I appreciate you taking the
trouble.


You are most welcome. I was very grateful for the responses I got.
They were all very useful and helped me to decide which to try.

Though I would have found it *slightly*
annoying if the subject line had been "bunch of
bananas"


Apologies for that I was more than a wee bit annoyed at his long
winded bullying. Another poster made a fair comment about posting the
text with it ... Well I have already said that.


On the bright side, if I understand VLH's system,
you've gone from barbarian status to newbie 3rd
class. So that's something.


Lucky me! g


Yep, you definitely get one star for being calm whilst the flack was
flying your way.
Hope to see you back soon to gain another star.
Five stars and maybe then you'll be treated as a goddess by the old farts.
:-)
Thanks for your comments


LOL thanks. I enjoy reading the post so unless he intends to try and boot
me out ...

Anyway, I am sure I shall have more questions sooner or later

Thanks, Mick ;-)

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Old August 14th 15, 08:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
The Good Guy who has a ****y HTML Fetish

Should have read The Good Guy who has a ****y yellow background HTML Fetish


I do *not* render HTML in my NNTP client. I visit text-only newsgroups.
I can see the HTML code in a different view but HTML code is all text so
that's what I would see. Won't see rendered HTML if I unhide his posts.
Won't see his posts, by default, as long as he posts through a remailer.
  #29  
Old August 14th 15, 09:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Ophelia wrote:

VanguardLH wrote ...

I disagree on her submitting discontinuous posts which has become the
meaty side issue of this [sub]thread.


After it was explained nicely, (not by you) I agreed that I ought to have
included the text from the original, but not that I ought not to have
extended the original subject line.

What I do object to is your authoritarian attitude and the reams you write
to make your point.


You missed the "please" in my first reply. The rest was explanation and
arguing with you and others why replying to the original thread (for
continuity) is polite and starting a new thread instead of adding to the
old thread (disconnection) is impolite.

Next time I might call it a Bunch of Bananas.
If I do ... what do you intend to do about it?

Yep, that was you. You decided to denigrate and got negative
consequence. That was a surprise to you? Tit for tat.

Yes, I'm verbose. Being terse is not necessarily a better mode of
communication. The average attention span of humans is now worse than
for gold fish but I'm not writing for gold fish.
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Old August 14th 15, 09:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ophelia[_4_]
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Ophelia wrote:

VanguardLH wrote ...

I disagree on her submitting discontinuous posts which has become the
meaty side issue of this [sub]thread.


After it was explained nicely, (not by you) I agreed that I ought to have
included the text from the original, but not that I ought not to have
extended the original subject line.

What I do object to is your authoritarian attitude and the reams you
write
to make your point.


You missed the "please" in my first reply. The rest was explanation and
arguing with you and others why replying to the original thread (for
continuity) is polite and starting a new thread instead of adding to the
old thread (disconnection) is impolite.

Next time I might call it a Bunch of Bananas.
If I do ... what do you intend to do about it?

Yep, that was you. You decided to denigrate and got negative
consequence. That was a surprise to you? Tit for tat.

Yes, I'm verbose. Being terse is not necessarily a better mode of
communication. The average attention span of humans


I don't have the time to read screeds and screeds of stuff when someone else
can describe what he prefers in a few sentences. I leave you to it.


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