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Automatic updates not happening
My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart.
The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for the night time. The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart. Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user needing to intervene? |
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Optimist wrote:
My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart. The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for the night time. The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart. Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user needing to intervene? Win10 doesn't speak English re Updates. I'm thinking of learning Arabic in the hope that that might work (:- The need to manually restart has tripped me up many times. No communication from Win10, and it's just sitting there smiling idiotically. So then, after many such events I've just learned to hit the Restart button optimistically (no pun intended, man). Ed |
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On Thu, 10 May 2018 12:10:01 +0100, Ed Cryer wrote:
Optimist wrote: My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart. The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for the night time. The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart. Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user needing to intervene? Win10 doesn't speak English re Updates. I'm thinking of learning Arabic in the hope that that might work (:- The need to manually restart has tripped me up many times. No communication from Win10, and it's just sitting there smiling idiotically. So then, after many such events I've just learned to hit the Restart button optimistically (no pun intended, man). Ed Thank you, Ed, I'm glad it isn't just me! There must be millions of Win10 users who leave their machines running for weeks without restarting which means the OS will not be updated as a result. |
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Optimist wrote:
My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart. The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for the night time. The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart. Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user needing to intervene? It looks like it's a scheduled task of some sort. It belongs to the Update Orchestrator. Your fix isn't here, and this is only peripherally related. Update Orchestrator is part of the delivery system. https://www.windowscentral.com/how-p...alling-updates You can turn on "History Recording for all Tasks" if you want. In this case though, I don't think it records the "Not" of the trigger condition. It would only record if the Task ran or not. https://s14.postimg.cc/3rwjk9hn5/Tas...er_History.gif ******* https://superuser.com/questions/5329...-automatically powercfg -energy That gives a report, which can include why a computer isn't sleeping. Something as simple as having VLC open could account for your symptoms (a multimedia task that stops wake timers or something). Try this for more info powercfg /? That would work best from an Administrator command prompt window. Using the right click menu, if yours still says "Powershell", you can simply type "cmd" into the Administrator one, to start an administrator command prompt session. Paul |
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On Thu, 10 May 2018 10:07:37 -0400, Paul wrote:
Optimist wrote: My update status says that KB4103727 and KB4103729 are awaiting restart. The PC is left running all night with all user applications shut down, with non-active hours set for the night time. The PC neither bothered to go to sleep last night nor restart. Wasn't the whole point of active hours to ensure the PC will be kept up-to-date without the user needing to intervene? It looks like it's a scheduled task of some sort. It belongs to the Update Orchestrator. Your fix isn't here, and this is only peripherally related. Update Orchestrator is part of the delivery system. https://www.windowscentral.com/how-p...alling-updates You can turn on "History Recording for all Tasks" if you want. In this case though, I don't think it records the "Not" of the trigger condition. It would only record if the Task ran or not. https://s14.postimg.cc/3rwjk9hn5/Tas...er_History.gif ******* https://superuser.com/questions/5329...-automatically powercfg -energy That gives a report, which can include why a computer isn't sleeping. Something as simple as having VLC open could account for your symptoms (a multimedia task that stops wake timers or something). Try this for more info powercfg /? That would work best from an Administrator command prompt window. Using the right click menu, if yours still says "Powershell", you can simply type "cmd" into the Administrator one, to start an administrator command prompt session. Paul This morning the PC had gone to sleep so I had to log on again. But once again, it had not bothered to restart outside the active hours, so I restarted it myself and went off for a cuppa. It's obvious that this active hours feature is just totally pointless. |
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Optimist wrote:
This morning the PC had gone to sleep so I had to log on again. But once again, it had not bothered to restart outside the active hours, so I restarted it myself and went off for a cuppa. It's obvious that this active hours feature is just totally pointless. On that, we can agree. Paul |
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On Fri, 11 May 2018 00:39:40 -0400, Paul wrote:
Optimist wrote: This morning the PC had gone to sleep so I had to log on again. But once again, it had not bothered to restart outside the active hours, so I restarted it myself and went off for a cuppa. It's obvious that this active hours feature is just totally pointless. On that, we can agree. I've been using that NoReboot.exe tool that's supposed to keep shifting the active hours so as to prevent a reboot, but my laptop still reboots after major updates. |
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"Char Jackson" wrote in message
... I've been using that NoReboot.exe tool that's supposed to keep shifting the active hours so as to prevent a reboot, but my laptop still reboots after major updates. Active Hours only means when W10 won't do something. Restart after an update install is hard-coded and will be done auto, after a preset # days requiring a restart, or end-user attempting to override the need. -- ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ ms mvp windows 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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On Tue, 15 May 2018 00:46:53 -0400, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
"Char Jackson" wrote in message .. . I've been using that NoReboot.exe tool that's supposed to keep shifting the active hours so as to prevent a reboot, but my laptop still reboots after major updates. Active Hours only means when W10 won't do something. Restart after an update install is hard-coded and will be done auto, after a preset # days requiring a restart, or end-user attempting to override the need. Thanks for the explanation. Why on earth doesn't W10 just do a restart as when the current active hours period expires? |
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