Microsoft Edge at start up- how to stop it?

I use Win 10 x64 Home edition. I do not use, and have never knowingly
used, Microsoft Edge browser - since better browsers exist.

I recently discovered that Microsoft Edge starts up at boot up. How can
I stop it from doing so, and stealing valuable processing cycles - for
doing nothing?

(I discovered this fact through using CCleaner. I was asked the by the
program 'Do you want Microsoft Edge halted for a complete cleanup?' I
usually get asked this about my normal browsers Firefox and/or Chrome.
When I checked on the processes running, Firefox and Chrome were there -
but could NOT see Edge.)

I am willing to resort to registry hacks if I have to, to stop this
happening. Any pointers?

Thanks

On 05/29/2018 08:31 AM, occam wrote:
I use Win 10 x64 Home edition. I do not use, and have never knowingly
used, Microsoft Edge browser - since better browsers exist.

I recently discovered that Microsoft Edge starts up at boot up. How can
I stop it from doing so, and stealing valuable processing cycles - for
doing nothing?

(I discovered this fact through using CCleaner. I was asked the by the
program 'Do you want Microsoft Edge halted for a complete cleanup?' I
usually get asked this about my normal browsers Firefox and/or Chrome.
When I checked on the processes running, Firefox and Chrome were there -
but could NOT see Edge.)

I am willing to resort to registry hacks if I have to, to stop this
happening. Any pointers?

Thanks


The easiest way is to stop using Windows 10 and start using something
that is more junk than Windows 10.

I use Fudge and I love it. My default browser is Microsoft Fudge.

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On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:53:14 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 29/05/2018 16:31, occam wrote:

I recently discovered that Microsoft Edge starts up at boot up. How can
I stop it from doing so, and stealing valuable processing cycles - for
doing nothing?


The easiest way is to stop using Windows 10 and start using something
that is more junk than Windows 10.

I use Edge and I love it. My default browser is Microsoft Edge. I also
keep Firefox on my machine as sometimes I need to load web pages that I
develop to test it for compliance over the board.

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Microsoft Edge is alright but just about every browser is a lot more
compatible with pages than it is.

On Tue, 29 May 2018 09:06:48 -0700, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 05/29/2018 08:31 AM, occam wrote:
I use Win 10 x64 Home edition. I do not use, and have never knowingly
used, Microsoft Edge browser - since better browsers exist.

I recently discovered that Microsoft Edge starts up at boot up. How can
I stop it from doing so, and stealing valuable processing cycles - for
doing nothing?

(I discovered this fact through using CCleaner. I was asked the by the
program 'Do you want Microsoft Edge halted for a complete cleanup?' I
usually get asked this about my normal browsers Firefox and/or Chrome.
When I checked on the processes running, Firefox and Chrome were there -
but could NOT see Edge.)

I am willing to resort to registry hacks if I have to, to stop this
happening. Any pointers?

Thanks


The easiest way is to stop using Windows 10 and start using something
that is more junk than Windows 10.

Windows 11 ? I don't believe it's been released yet.
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On 29/05/2018 17:41, ken1943 wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 17:31:45 +0200, occam wrote:

I use Win 10 x64 Home edition. I do not use, and have never knowingly
used, Microsoft Edge browser - since better browsers exist.

I recently discovered that Microsoft Edge starts up at boot up. How can
I stop it from doing so, and stealing valuable processing cycles - for
doing nothing?

(I discovered this fact through using CCleaner. I was asked the by the
program 'Do you want Microsoft Edge halted for a complete cleanup?' I
usually get asked this about my normal browsers Firefox and/or Chrome.
When I checked on the processes running, Firefox and Chrome were there -
but could NOT see Edge.)

I am willing to resort to registry hacks if I have to, to stop this
happening. Any pointers?

Thanks

If it is there, just disable it because you may get an error if
deleted.


Thanks ken1943.
No, Edge was not there. For anyone else interested in the solution
however, here is the solution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiJorhrv-Ig

Summary:
"start" - "settings" - "privacy" - "background apps"

There you will find a lot of MS background *unnecessary* apps running by
default in the background. I believe some of these have been enabled
with the latest '1803' release, whereas they were not there prior to the
latest updates.

On Tue, 29 May 2018 17:31:45 +0200, occam wrote:

I use Win 10 x64 Home edition. I do not use, and have never knowingly
used, Microsoft Edge browser - since better browsers exist.

I recently discovered that Microsoft Edge starts up at boot up. How can
I stop it from doing so, and stealing valuable processing cycles - for
doing nothing?

(I discovered this fact through using CCleaner. I was asked the by the
program 'Do you want Microsoft Edge halted for a complete cleanup?' I
usually get asked this about my normal browsers Firefox and/or Chrome.
When I checked on the processes running, Firefox and Chrome were there -
but could NOT see Edge.)

I am willing to resort to registry hacks if I have to, to stop this
happening. Any pointers?

Thanks

Open control panel, open default programs, choose Set your default
programs and go down to Web Browser and left click on it and choose
the web browser you want to make default.

I use Internet Explorer exclusively because Microsoft Edge is not
compatible with Dragon NaturallySpeaking.

Although I have never tried this but I found this URL on how to
completely remove it (Microsoft Edge) from Windows 10. Try it out and
see if it works.

https://www.google.com/search?source....0.zJtNy8H5RF8

On Tue, 29 May 2018 18:51:55 +0200, occam wrote:

No, Edge was not there. For anyone else interested in the solution
however, here is the solution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiJorhrv-Ig

Summary:
"start" - "settings" - "privacy" - "background apps"

There you will find a lot of MS background *unnecessary* apps running by
default in the background. I believe some of these have been enabled
with the latest '1803' release, whereas they were not there prior to the
latest updates.

The choice is which apps can receive info etc. in the background
when they are are running, NOT which apps start uninvited and run in
the background! If an application is running closed, in the
background, there's not much point in denying them this permission.

You have to wonder at people's inability to understand the Win10
interface even though MSFT have kindly made it fairly simple to
follow.

On Tue, 29 May 2018 18:54:04 +0200, Yrrah wrote:

Shadow :

Windows 11 ? I don't believe it's been released yet.

Actually, it's called Linux Redmond 1.0.

Redstone 5.

On 29/05/2018 19:47, mechanic wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 18:51:55 +0200, occam wrote:

No, Edge was not there. For anyone else interested in the solution
however, here is the solution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiJorhrv-Ig

Summary:
"start" - "settings" - "privacy" - "background apps"

There you will find a lot of MS background *unnecessary* apps running by
default in the background. I believe some of these have been enabled
with the latest '1803' release, whereas they were not there prior to the
latest updates.

The choice is which apps can receive info etc. in the background
when they are are running, NOT which apps start uninvited and run in
the background! If an application is running closed, in the
background, there's not much point in denying them this permission.

You have to wonder at people's inability to understand the Win10
interface even though MSFT have kindly made it fairly simple to
follow.


The simple to follow instructions on that page says:

'Select which apps can run in background' with a host of toggles against
the apps, including 'microsoft edge'.

On Tue, 29 May 2018 12:14:00 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:


Microsoft Edge is alright but just about every browser is a lot more
compatible with pages than it is.


I completely disagree. As far as I'm concerned, Edge is by far the
worst of all browsers.

occam wrote:
On 29/05/2018 19:47, mechanic wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2018 18:51:55 +0200, occam wrote:

No, Edge was not there. For anyone else interested in the solution
however, here is the solution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiJorhrv-Ig

Summary:
"start" - "settings" - "privacy" - "background apps"

There you will find a lot of MS background *unnecessary* apps running by
default in the background. I believe some of these have been enabled
with the latest '1803' release, whereas they were not there prior to the
latest updates.
The choice is which apps can receive info etc. in the background
when they are are running, NOT which apps start uninvited and run in
the background! If an application is running closed, in the
background, there's not much point in denying them this permission.

You have to wonder at people's inability to understand the Win10
interface even though MSFT have kindly made it fairly simple to
follow.


The simple to follow instructions on that page says:

'Select which apps can run in background' with a host of toggles against
the apps, including 'microsoft edge'.


I think you need this diagram, as some info on the topic.
The state diagram for Metro Apps is different than the state
diagram for Win32. [ And the Win32 one includes states that might
not be documented all that well (such as the zombie state). ]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win.../app-lifecycle

"App terminate

The system attempts to keep your app and its data in memory while
it's suspended. However, if the system does not have the resources
to keep your app in memory, it will terminate your app. Apps don't
receive a notification that they are being terminated, so the only
opportunity you have to save your app's data is in your
OnSuspension event handler, or asynchronously from your
EnteredBackground handler."

That's why I modified their diagram a bit.

https://s15.postimg.cc/etlrfsfvf/metro_app_states.gif

From my perspective, there are two questions:

1) What is "starting" MSEdge on your system ?

MSEdge isn't running on my 17034 system right now, and
there is no suspended item by that name.

Only Skype has been started by the System and placed in
the Suspended state, so it can accept incoming calls (even
though the OS in question doesn't have an MSA or a Skype account).
It can't actually receive a call in the Suspended state,
and a packet sent to Skype would require it to temporarily
enter a Background state. Task Manager probably doesn't
even have a notation for Background state, only Foreground
(no notation) and Suspended (the rose shaped symbol).

2) Removing the Background capability is only part
of the story. It might still be able to enter
Suspended. Again, the diagram in the article is way
too simplistic. There might be transition lines not
shown in the diagram.

CCleaner cannot do its thing, if there is a handle
or file lock present in the folder. And who knows
how that works for a Metro App. Certainly if MSEdge
has exclusive access to a .db of some sort (like for
web page cache or bookmarks), it would be difficult
for CCleaner to mess with it until MSEdge is terminated.
When a browser uses a traditional folder full of files,
there are more possibilities for erasure.

When the MSEdge windows is open, you can try "alt-F4"
to terminate it. Or use Task Manager to kill it. When
an App like Skype is involved, it's always possible
for Task Scheduler to be wired up so that it will restart
Skype just to annoy you. I haven't tested that. The
Search Indexer seems to be wired that way on Windows 10,
and uses tricks to restart it (past the three retries
in the Services definition).

Paul

On Tue, 29 May 2018 10:26:19 -0600, ken1943
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 12:14:00 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:53:14 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 29/05/2018 16:31, occam wrote:

I recently discovered that Microsoft Edge starts up at boot up. How can
I stop it from doing so, and stealing valuable processing cycles - for
doing nothing?


The easiest way is to stop using Windows 10 and start using something
that is more junk than Windows 10.

I use Edge and I love it. My default browser is Microsoft Edge. I also
keep Firefox on my machine as sometimes I need to load web pages that I
develop to test it for compliance over the board.

/--- This email has been checked for viruses by
Windows Defender software.
//https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/comprehensive-security/

Microsoft Edge is alright but just about every browser is a lot more
compatible with pages than it is.

I like IE much better after my go to browsers.

You must be the one person on Earth who prefers Internet Explorer over
anything.

Still, I admire your loyalty to Microsoft.

On Tue, 29 May 2018 11:50:49 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Tue, 29 May 2018 12:14:00 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:


Microsoft Edge is alright but just about every browser is a lot more
compatible with pages than it is.


I completely disagree. As far as I'm concerned, Edge is by far the
worst of all browsers.

I was trying to be nice.

On Tue, 29 May 2018 16:33:09 -0400, Doomsdrzej wrote:


You must be the one person on Earth who prefers Internet Explorer over
anything.


I'm another one. I think it's much better then Edge, and slightly
better than Chrome. As far as I'm concerned Edge and Chrome are he
two worst browsers.



Still, I admire your loyalty to Microsoft.



I don't know about him, but in my case it has nothing to do with
loyalty. It's simply a matter of preferences.

occam wrote:

I use Win 10 x64 Home edition. I do not use, and have never knowingly
used, Microsoft Edge browser - since better browsers exist.

I recently discovered that Microsoft Edge starts up at boot up. How can
I stop it from doing so, and stealing valuable processing cycles - for
doing nothing?

(I discovered this fact through using CCleaner. I was asked the by the
program 'Do you want Microsoft Edge halted for a complete cleanup?' I
usually get asked this about my normal browsers Firefox and/or Chrome.
When I checked on the processes running, Firefox and Chrome were there -
but could NOT see Edge.)

I am willing to resort to registry hacks if I have to, to stop this
happening. Any pointers?

Thanks

See replies to your same topic that you *multi*-posted in other
newsgroups.