Toshiba W-7 went dark

HB wrote:

https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg

fdisk about /dev/sda

250G disk
3 parts:
1.46Gi 0x27 (unknown)
222.4Gi 0x07 HPFS/NTFS
8.9Gi 0x07 HPFS/NTFS


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Mike Easter

"Patrick" wrote in message
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On 22/03/2018 07:03, HB wrote:
This is what I see. There are no sda1 and sda2 on the left of the Fatdog
desktop to click on.
Where is sda1 and sda2 to click on?

https://postimg.org/gallery/38afbakly/

Your picture with an arrow pointing to the second icon near the bottom,
what does it say?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ggjissof4z1kt08/edit.jpg?dl=0

That says sda1.

When clicked on it opens a window that says, among other things, most of the
listed items are "unavailable." Right now it's running some kind of scan.
"system volume information is in red.

Also says, volume is corrupt. You should run "chkdsk."

How do I run that from the command prompt - can it be done that way?

"Mike Easter" wrote in message
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HB wrote:
https://postimg.org/gallery/38afbakly/

There are no Tosh' instructions when turning the Tosh on holding down the
0
key. Just a loud irritating sound. Nothing else.

Uh oh.

Rats! That "Uh oh" sounds bad.

This message shows the link to the Tosh instructions
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=152165126200

Thanks, but that doesn't work. All I got was a black screen with a dash
in
the upper right and loud irritating sound.

That sounds much worse for the hdd than just missing the appearance of the
sda2 icon on the desktop.

I'm leaning, with my limited knowledge of computers, to believe the HD is
toast.

Linux also says, when sda1 was clicked on (bottom left above bar) that File
doesn't exist pertaining to "system volume information." Sounds ominous,
like the end of the line for his HD.
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Microsoft motto "If it ain't broke keep fixing it till it is."

Mike Easter wrote:
HB wrote:

https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg

fdisk about /dev/sda

250G disk
3 parts:
1.46GiÂ* 0x27 (unknown)

That 0x27 is a hidden Windows RE recovery environment.

222.4GiÂ* 0x07 HPFS/NTFS
8.9Gi 0x07 HPFS/NTFS



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Mike Easter

HB wrote:
"Monty" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 02:22:51 -0400, "HB" wrote:
I can't access that. It has a lock icon and says it's not accessible.

Here is the info in Reflect.log on my PC. I opened it in Notepad. It
was created when I downloaded the latest version of Macrium Reflect
Free yesterday.

The Macrium downloader gets an error and it doesn't download. Do you have
an URL for a working downloader for Macrium?


The file does not have a lock icon and is fully accessible.

I'm talking about the folder on my computer, not through Notepad/Macrium.


When you select a "Download Location" in the stub downloader, it
has to be a folder that is write-able by your account.

I made a TEMP folder on my L: drive, and told ReflectDLHF to
dump the downloads into L:\TEMP .

It isn't generally a good idea to just set the output location
to L:\ or C:\ , because Windows doesn't like it if you write
to the "root" of a drive letter. It's a kind of security issue.
You can make a folder on your C: drive if you want, and dump
the downloads in there. Then, move them later to a safe place.

In File Explorer, select the Downloads folder (from the left where
you'd normally do it), then place your cursor in the top bar, highlight
the string up there, and that will tell you where your home is located.
You can copy that string into the dialog in the Reflect downloader as
a place where the final output is supposed to go. For example, if you
use C:\users\john doe\Downloads, the program will eventually create
a C:\users\john doe\Downloads\Macrium folder with the files in it.

If you can at least get the main program to download, that is a start.
The main program is available in 32-bit or 64-bit version. Select
the one to match the OS of the machine you're installing on. If
your C: drive right now, has "Program Files" and "Program Files (x86)",
then you're allowed to use the x64 version.

v7.1.2963_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe 65,792,600 bytes

v7.1.2963_reflect_setup_free_x86.exe 59,183,024 bytes (for a 32-bit CPU)

OK, now run that chosen file on the computer you're installing on.
(I call this the Technician Computer, because it's the computer
that is fully working and not a flaming train wreck.)

If you run the install, it should be able to install without
any WinPE Kit at all.

*Now*, start the program from the Start menu. You just finished
installing it, and it should be ready to go to work.

It will prompt you to "make an emergency CD". Good.

It will notice you didn't download any WinPE during the
original download session. The program is capable of downloading
its own set of WinPE files, just like the stub downloader does it.
The difference is, it will store the downloads in %temp% and
it won't give any irritating prompts to "pick a download folder".
A choice of either WinPE5 or WinPE10 should work.

I can show you where it gets the WinPE downloads from. These are
some paths for getting WinPE components.

Tools
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...c75f2dcc4f.cab

Files
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...410f004498.cab

You can see the names of the files here. I'm *not* inviting you to
use this URL, the text on it, just showing you how the stub uses
some sort of manifest. This is for an older version of the program.
There's probably a similar file for the version 7, stored elsewhere
on the site.

http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v...0/features.xml

If you prepare the emergency boot CD from the program, maybe the
download step will work better for you. No guarantees of course,
because I can't be absolutely sure what's wrong.

I did see a Macrium forum post, where someone was actually
getting a download failure, and the Microsoft server can always be
"out of order" when the request is made. Servers break sometimes.

Paul

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , HB writes:
It has a C: and D: I assume the D: partition is where the info comes from
when you do a recovery or restore.

If you mean you remember seeing that it had a D: partition when it was
working, then that would mean that someone - possibly the manufacturer -
had set it up with two user-accessible partitions; some enlightened
manufacturers do indeed do this. What you use them for is up to you.
Windows and most installed software is almost always on the C: partition.

When I did a system recovery on the Tosh' when I first got it from my
realtive used, isn't that where the "recovery" comes from? I had no disks
for it. It was like new after the System Recovery.

The recovery partition, if there is one, is usually not visible to the
user when normally using Windows; if the user can see C: and D:, and there
_is_ a recovery partition as well, then there will be _three_ partitions.

On this HP desktop, I see a

C: which says OS (operating system)
D: which says (HP Recovery)
F: which says (System)

On the Tosh all I remember seeing was a C: and D:.
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without the threat of divine retribution
nor the possiblity of divine reward.

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I take that to mean, Fatdog doesn't "see" a second partition,
meaning other partitions are damaged or the partitions are
no longer in the partition table.
Normally, I would try running "testdisk", but the interface
is pretty horrible, and one of the operations involves starting
a scan, stopping it, and *then* it presents a menu opportunity
to examine the files inside the partition.

A test disk through Linux?

No, he meant testdisk, a _command_ you can run (type) in Linux. But he
says it's not friendly, so probably not for us to consider for now.

But for just displaying the existence of files in a partition,
it's a great tool to have onboard.

Beyond my capabilities.

Even the smartctl
report of Reallocated Sectors "raw data value" would be of
some assistance.

A ddrescue scan through Linux? If there's something to type into the
command prompt in Linux let me know and I can try it.



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On 22/03/2018 19:41, HB wrote:
The Macrium downloader gets an error and it doesn't download. Do you have
an URL for a working downloader for Macrium?

Click the blue Button that says 'Home', then click on 'Save File'

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

HB wrote:
"Mike Easter"
HB wrote:
https://postimg.org/gallery/38afbakly/

There are no Tosh' instructions when turning the Tosh on holding
down the 0 key. Just a loud irritating sound. Nothing else.

Uh oh.

Rats! That "Uh oh" sounds bad.

Well; I believe there is a restore partition and that the Tosh restore
wizard should appear which would be accessed from the hidden part on the
hdd. If you don't get the wizard and you are getting some kind of hdd
'noise' (particularly loud) I don't like that. I was hoping you would
be able to restore the bad part with a good part. I don't like any kind
of hdd noise.

OTOH we see 3 parts with fdisk and an overall generic smart report of pass.

Linux also says, when sda1 was clicked on (bottom left above bar) that File
doesn't exist pertaining to "system volume information." Sounds ominous,
like the end of the line for his HD.

I don't know what is wrong with it yet. There seems to be a mixed
picture, but a failure of an easy way out.



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Mike Easter

"Mike Easter" wrote in message
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Mike Easter wrote:
Paul wrote:
Even using

fdisk /dev/sda
p === prints the MBR partitiont able
q === quits running of fdisk command

would give some idea what the partition setup is like.

I like that idea.

I'm trying to figure out an uncomplicated way for HB to provide screenshot
from fatdog.

I posted them and am sure you came across the 1st set.
Here are new ones from today:

https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/
https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/03ec0845/
https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/hx3j203o9/IM004778.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/clomhapbd/IM004779.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj58s9/IM004780.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/v193epql5/IM004781.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj5gi1/IM004782.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5igr1peqx/IM004783.jpg

In noticed this: Error 930 occured at disk power-on lifetime:1243 hours (51
days + 19 hours) When the command that caused the error occured, the device
was active or idle.

Fatdog default also includes an mtpaint snapshot tool which will faciliate
a screenshot with onscreen instructions. That is found in the graphics
subsection of the menu.

I found it and took a snap of the screen but there is no way to move the
image of the screen to another PC that I can find. There is no "send to" or
I'd send it to a thumbdrive and move it to this PC, and upload it so all
could see it.
--

Microsoft motto "If it ain't broke keep fixing it till it is."

HB wrote:
That says sda1.

When clicked on it opens a window that says, among other things, most of the
listed items are "unavailable." Right now it's running some kind of scan.
"system volume information is in red.

Also says, volume is corrupt. You should run "chkdsk."

How do I run that from the command prompt - can it be done that way?

The default condition of that sda1 when a live fatdog is booted is for
it to be unmounted.

Linux doesn't have the Win chkdsk. In linux there is a fsck function
like chkdsk except for linux parts. (And) There is a ntfs-3g in fatdog
but I don't know much about it.


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Mike Easter

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , Mike Easter
writes:
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Fatdog default also includes an mtpaint snapshot tool which will faciliate
a screenshot with onscreen instructions. That is found in the graphics
subsection of the menu.

I suspect that would be too complex for him at the moment.

I got the screenshot on Linux but there is no way to move it to this PC to
upload so you all can see it. There is no "save to" or I'd send it to a
thumbdrive, move it to this PC and upload it tp postimg.org.

On 22/03/2018 22:24, HB wrote:
I got the screenshot on Linux but

CAN YOU JUST **** OFF. THIS IS WINDOWS NEWSGROUP AND YOU ARE NOT LIKELY
TO GET ANY YOUNG BOYS HERE.

YOU HAVE DESTROYED THESE NEWSGROUPS WITH YOUR STUPID POSTINGS.

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HB wrote:
"Mike Easter"

Fatdog default also includes an mtpaint snapshot tool which will
faciliate a screenshot with onscreen instructions. That is found
in the graphics subsection of the menu.

I found it and took a snap of the screen but there is no way to move
the image of the screen to another PC that I can find. There is no
"send to" or I'd send it to a thumbdrive and move it to this PC, and
upload it so all could see it.

When you use the mtpaint snapshot tool, it opens the snapshot in
mtpaint. Then if you are going to upload it to your screenshot place I
think the easiest way to do it is to save the file whose default
extension is .png.

The default location that opens when you save from mtpaint is in root's
directory. That is a problem for you which I believe the easiest way to
solve is to drag the file from there to a folder inside the root's
directory called Spot.

My idea would be to use the default browser SeaMonkey to access your
favorite postimg site and then when you want to feed the screenshot to
the site with the browser, the browser opens a directory which does not
contain the screenshot by default. But the browser's directory is
two-pane with a Spot folder on the left and you click that to open Spot
and the .png screenshot you saved with mtpaint and drug to the spot
directory will be there and you can feed it to postimg.

--
Mike Easter

Mike Easter wrote:
The default location that opens when you save from mtpaint is in root's
directory.Â* That is a problem for you which I believe the easiest way to
solve is to drag the file from there to a folder inside the root's
directory called Spot.

No; I wasn't thinking. Don't save the .png file in the default root
directory. Use the file manager which appears when you are going to
save the file to open the Spot directory seen in the L pane and save it
there.

There would be no need to open a filemanager to drag the file to Spot if
you save it there.

My idea would be to use the default browser SeaMonkey to access your
favorite postimg site and then when you want to feed the screenshot to
the site with the browser, the browser opens a directory which does not
contain the screenshot by default.Â* But the browser's directory is
two-pane with a Spot folder on the left and you click that to open Spot
and the .png screenshot you saved with mtpaint and drug to the spot
directory will be there and you can feed it to postimg.

SeaMonkey will also open the root directory to look for the file and you
will change to spot to find it.


--
Mike Easter

On 22/03/2018 21:06, HB wrote:
A new drive letter should appear.
If a new drive letter doesn't show (ie it's corrupted or what), then you
would look look in 'Disc Management' to see if the Toshiba HDD shows
there.
Thanks. I ordered one even cheaper with 2 USB plugs to fire it up. Now I
wait until it gets here from China. It looks like it can take up to 3 weeks.

Ah yes, the long wait.
It is well worth haveing though.