Toshiba W-7 went dark

"Patrick" wrote in message
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On 22/03/2018 19:41, HB wrote:
The Macrium downloader gets an error and it doesn't download. Do you
have
an URL for a working downloader for Macrium?

Click the blue Button that says 'Home', then click on 'Save File'

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree


Done, it's down loading now. I'm not sure I'm going to understand how to
use it.
--

"You can fool all of the people some of the time,
and some of the people all of the time,
but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."
--Abraham Lincoln--

"Monty" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:41:24 -0400, "HB" wrote:
The Macrium downloader gets an error and it doesn't download. Do you have
an URL for a working downloader for Macrium?


The following is a 2-stage download. First, get the downloader from
Macrium. This file is called "ReflectDLHF.exe" and is 3,758,120 bytes.

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

A little way down the page is the option to

Download Macrium Reflect 7 Free Edition. Click "Home Use".

You will be offered "ReflectDLHF.exe", which is a Binary File.
Click "Save File". You can accept to save it in the "Downloads"
folder.

It's sitting on my Desktop where I save everything to so I can find them
easily. But if I click on it it opens a DOS like text on a black background
and wants to install on THIS PC which runs perfectly. Is that what's
supposed to happen? I aborted it not seeing anything like that before.

Navigate to "C:\Users\your name\Downloads" folder and double-click
"ReflectDLHF.exe".

You brings up the "Macrium Reflect Download Agent" panel.
Accept the defaults:

Choose Edition --- Free
Save to folder === C:\Users ..... Macrium
Run installer directly after downloading

Within seconds you should be able to run the program. You will need a
blank CD.

What is with the black desktop and white text? I didn't get any of the
screen images I Googled up for this software.

Now click on "Other Tasks" in the menu bar and select
"Create Rescue Media".

The "Rescue Media Wizard" panel will appear. Select "Next".

The "Rescue Media Drivers" panel will appear. Select "Next".

The "Burn Rescue Media" panel will appear. Insert CD and Select
"Finish".

If you need any further help please come back to this thread.

When I looked online at images, that's not what opened. There were no
panels. Then entire monitor went black with some white text so I aborted the
installation right there. It looked like an old DOS window. I had to have
done something wrong. It's the ReflectDLHF.exe.
--
Morality is doing what's right
without the threat of divine retribution
nor the possiblity of divine reward.

- Arthur Paliden -

"Mike Easter" wrote in message
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HB wrote:

https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg

fdisk about /dev/sda

250G disk
3 parts:
1.46Gi 0x27 (unknown)
222.4Gi 0x07 HPFS/NTFS
8.9Gi 0x07 HPFS/NTFS


I don't think it matters anymore. There is no way to access the HD to do any
kind of Recovery or Restore. All I can do is wait for the "dock" to get
here from China to confirm what I believe. At that point I'll have to
decide to replace the HD and fumble through getting a copy of W-7 on it ....
and hope it works or replacing it with something newer and better as did
it's original owner.

The other half and #1 son was talking about replacing it with a new laptop
with a SSD. Apparently they don't have the problems these mechanical hard
drives have.

--
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfullly
as when they do it from a religious conviction"

~~ Blaise Pascale ~~

HB wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message
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HB wrote:
The Macrium downloader gets an error and it doesn't download. Do you
have an URL for a working downloader for Macrium?


When you select a "Download Location" in the stub downloader, it
has to be a folder that is write-able by your account.

I made a TEMP folder on my L: drive, and told ReflectDLHF to
dump the downloads into L:\TEMP .

Tonight it looks like it will download but there is no choice - only RUN. I
can't save it anywhere. This PC is running for years perfectly so I don't
want software I'm not familiar with installed on it. Saved, Yes. Running,
no.

Do you have the capability to do this ? This picture
shows you what the Reflect download application screen looks
like for me right now.

https://s14.postimg.org/jyhu1oj6p/downloader.gif

I should note that mine actually *crashed* when I tried to run
it just now. It seemed to have a problem with the manifest it
got from the Macrium site.

A second attempt then worked, using a backup copy of the program.
And I could take a picture of the dialog.

This kind of behavior... isn't normal.

Paul

In message , HB writes:

"Mike Easter" wrote in message
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HB wrote:

https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg

fdisk about /dev/sda

250G disk
3 parts:
1.46Gi 0x27 (unknown)
222.4Gi 0x07 HPFS/NTFS
8.9Gi 0x07 HPFS/NTFS


I don't think it matters anymore. There is no way to access the HD to do any

There might be.

kind of Recovery or Restore. All I can do is wait for the "dock" to get
here from China to confirm what I believe. At that point I'll have to
decide to replace the HD and fumble through getting a copy of W-7 on it ....
and hope it works or replacing it with something newer and better as did
it's original owner.

The other half and #1 son was talking about replacing it with a new laptop
with a SSD. Apparently they don't have the problems these mechanical hard
drives have.

You could put an SSD into the laptop, instead of an HD; it would
certainly run faster - you wouldn't have to replace the whole laptop.
(SSDs are the same shape and size as 2.5" HDs, and go in the same
place.) No, they don't have the mechanical problems HDs do - though they
do have their own types of problem.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

1974: not one member of the British jury gave the Swedish band a single point.

"Paul" wrote in message
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HB wrote:

I don't know if this is helpful or not but they're images from Linux of
the Toshiba's information I took this afternoon.

https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/03ec0845/
https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg === Disktype
https://s26.postimg.org/hx3j203o9/IM004778.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/clomhapbd/IM004779.jpg === SMART
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj58s9/IM004780.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/v193epql5/IM004781.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj5gi1/IM004782.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5igr1peqx/IM004783.jpg

Scavenging personal files off the machine might make
sense, if someone cared, but I don't know if
scavenging the OS makes sense. It's a cost/value
tradeoff.

There is little of value on the Toshiba's HD. Some pictures and MP3 files.
The kids have their games backed up or have the original disks. Being slow
it wasn't the favorite PC in the house.

You can certain buy a replacement drive, install Windows 7
on it using the COA sticker xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx
license key. And carry on. It's even possible to put Windows 7
on a USB key, and install it from there. That won't work if the
computer is year 2005 or older, since the older computers
like that won't boot from USB.

W-7 came out in 2009. I wont ask the old gal exactly when she bought it
because I'll probably get the wrong answer.
--
If the gods listened to the prayers of men,
all humankind would quickly perish since they
constantly pray for many evils to befall one another.

~ Epicurus ~

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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You would use ddrescue to clone that 250GB drive, to
another drive of similar size or larger. Regular cloning
utilities are going to barf when they hit that read error.

The clone would have the same errors, the same problems wouldn't it?

So you _could_ try to use Macrium to clone it to the new drive (or image
it to your Seagate, which you could do while you're waiting for the new
drive; you'd then rebuild from the image to the new drive when you get
it), but it is _likely_ that Macrium would stop with an error message at
some point during the process, when it failed to read some part of the
failing drive. I would still try it though!

How do you clone a computer than can't boot up? How would I get the info
from the failed HD to the Seagate? See my post tonight about the Macrium
black screen with white text - nothing like the images that were supposed to
appear. I aborted it. This old HP desktop has never had a problem. I had no
idea what was going on with Macrium's black screen. I'm not looking to cause
a problem with this old HP workhorse.

Once that had failed a couple of times, you could use ddrescue to do the
cloning; unlike Macrium, ddrescue won't fall over when it encounters
errors, but will repeatedly retry. (I don't know how many times, though.)
However, it's more tedious to use than Macrium. If I understand Mike
Easter's post correctly, ddrescue _is_ _on_ the fatdog CD, but isn't
_installed_ when you boot fatdog, you have to extract it.

How is that done? Where would it be found in Fatdog?

The advantage of either imaging or cloning would be that you'd get a new
drive which would (a) boot straight into Windows (b) have all your other
files on it, such as your daughter's game. The _dis_advantage would be
either that the cloning process wouldn't work at all, or that some of the
files in the clone/image might still be corrupted, and it still wouldn't
boot.

There you go! My worst nightmare.....


.....but I don't know if
scavenging the OS makes sense. It's a cost/value
tradeoff.

Nope. No one cares what's on that HD because all personal goodies are safely
on thumb-drives or another PCs here. Games are on thumbdrives or the
original disks.

......and: you'd have to obtain the Windows 7
to put on a DVD or USB - though we _should_ be able to help you get that.

All we can do is wait until that dock comes in. I don't know what else I can
do right now.
--

"You can fool all of the people some of the time,
and some of the people all of the time,
but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time."

--Abraham Lincoln--

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , HB writes:

This is one of the things we're hoping to find you a way of downloading.

I checked the MS site and found
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7

disk I made from this PC wont boot the Toshiba. And it's also a W-7 64bit.

That's very odd, since you're successfully booting the fatdog Linux OK. I
still suspect you're not making them right. You can always try booting the
desktop from them.

There was nothing said when I made the DVD for the W-7 HP laptop about
burning it to an OSI file.

The thumbdrive of the rescue disk for the W-7 HP gamer machine didn't
mention it either. That one wont boot the Tosh - neither will.

I don't understand these OSI burners. I tried using two I downloaded and
couldn't figure out how they worked. One kept mentioning blue-ray. I don't
have anything blueray. I couldn't find anything that said burn this as an
OSI file or convert this to an OSI file and "burn".....


--
"The hands that help are better far
than lips that pray."

-= Robert Green Ingersoll =-

"pjp" wrote in message
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No insult intended but you are not going to teach me quantum machanic
math via a newsgroup so given following this thread you are never going
to solve whatever issue your laptop has. I'm willing to bet on it. Not
saying someone else can't though.

You're right. I'm clueless. I didn't think it would be so complicated to
find the problem and solve it.
--

"Those who can make you believe absurdities,
can make you commit atrocities"

~ Voltaire ~

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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I didn't do such a search for you as using ebay.com (the US site) rather
than ebay.co.uk doesn't work too well for me from he ebay knows I'm
here, so gives delivery times - and shipping costs - to me. But you can.
Or Amazon.com, or probably others.

It doesn't matter because I've been neglecting other things I need to do.
I've spend many hours on this Toshiba. I have to set it aside and catch up
on work around here and on my job. I'll update you here when it comes in and
what I find out about the HD.
--
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfullly
as when they do it from a religious conviction"

~~ Blaise Pascale ~~

"Mike Easter" wrote in message
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I wish the Tosh recovery wizard could perform without failing. Somewhere
someone advised that prior to initiating the Tosh zero key instructions
that after turning off the computer, that one do the hard reset by remove
the AC power, remove the battery, hold down the power key for 10 seconds,
and then replace the battery and AC and do the powerup with 0 zero key.

Saw that post. Tried it and it didn't work. I got the usual read disk error
and a loud irritating sound.


--
"The hands that help are better far
than lips that pray."

-= Robert Green Ingersoll =-

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , HB writes:

On the Tosh all I remember seeing was a C: and D:.

When we've decided
on a way forward, _then_ it can be reconnected to power. In the meantime,
you can still play with fatdog Linux to get familiar with some of what it
can do, _if_ you want to - it will work without the HD present. Though you
may not want to.

I'm going to wait for the dock to come in. Meanwhile I'll catch up on things
I've been neglecting here trying to work on this Tosh, read endless info
online, trying one thing after another......
--
If the gods listened to the prayers of men,
all humankind would quickly perish since they
constantly pray for many evils to befall one another.

~ Epicurus ~

"Mike Easter" wrote in message
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SeaMonkey will also open the root directory to look for the file and you
will change to spot to find it.


I'm done with this Linux Mike. Nothing is going to make a difference and
we've all spent hours on this. The HD is obviously the problem. It either
failed or is so corrupt nothing is going to make it boot. When the dock
comes in we'll all know for sure. Until then I'll set the Toshiba aside and
catch up on things around here that have been neglected. The garden has to
be tilled. The board and batten stained......
--
If the gods listened to the prayers of men,
all humankind would quickly perish since they
constantly pray for many evils to befall one another.

~ Epicurus ~

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , HB writes:
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Here are new ones from today: -snip-

I don't get much of that one, but it does include another four OK
self-tests.

And in the end, what does it all mean? We still don't know for sure if the
HD failed or not or what's wrong with it. I'm going to say it's a goner.
--

"Those who can make you believe absurdities,
can make you commit atrocities"

~ Voltaire ~

"Paul" wrote in message
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HB wrote:

The only thing that matters now, is what you want
to do about it. Buy a new drive, reinstall Win7,
forget about the old drive contents. Or, try and
rescue what's on the old drive. I'm not getting
a strong feeling right now that the disk
content on the 250GB drive matters.

What's on that disk is not important. All the files and folders are backed
up on thumbdrives. That's the music, the pictures, the games. It would be
nice to get it booted up again but I doubt that is ever going to happen.
We'll all know for sure when the dock comes in.

--

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"

Epicurus - Greek philosopher