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  #16  
Old January 16th 16, 11:17 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On 16/01/2016 22:53, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:43:05 -0000, edevils
wrote:

On 16/01/2016 20:39, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:31:43 -0000, edevils
wrote:

On 16/01/2016 18:14, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:06:39 -0000, Paul wrote:

Fritz Wuehler wrote:

So, free Windows is just like Linux now. A lot of code and
promising crap that never gets fixed or developed further.

Most of the time, we end up not understanding
why they're changing things. If the objective was
to in an obvious way, "make Win10 better and better",
I might have a more positive attitude to the rolling
release idea and what they're actually doing to it.

For example, the desktop version uses Windows
Update. The latest builds added Update Orchestrator,
which sits above Windows Update, a piece of software
used on the Enterprise edition. Do consumers
need Update Orchestrator ? No.
Did the policies in the OS change, because
of the presence of Update Orchestrator ? Yes.
Is the overall change an improvement for
consumers ? No.

The desktop version is being used as a testbed,
and for ideas that may have no positive impact
on the consumer version itself. And that's not
really the intention of the rolling release idea.
It's an abuse of rolling release.

Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And
it's
not gone wrong once.

It works for me too, but the fact that it is being used as a testbed,
like Paul put it, combined with the nearly "unstoppable" automatic
updates, makes me a bit unconfortable. I mean, a new feature update
could break it any time, could it not?

I don't feel like I'm using a Beta version. It's more reliable than
previous models.



I am not having problems either. But we don't know what issues a new
feature may or may not cause in the future. The difference between
Windows 10 and previous windows versions is that Windows 10
automatically updates itself with new features.


And with previous versions, most of us did this anyway.


There is a huge difference though. You didn't upgrade to a new Windows
version in the middle of a working day. You knew that something *might*
sometimes go wrong. So, you took the jump to the new features only if
and when you wanted to.

And we didn't
know about problems until AFTER the update.


Exactly my point. Now, for you and me, Windows 10 works like a charm,
but we'll find out about problems (or, hopefully, not) AFTER the updates.


Oh, except there weren't any problems. So what is it you're worrying
about again?


Most times there weren't any problems, but sometimes there were, and you
had to find a fix. That was OK, anyhow, because you did *not* try and
upgrade Windows while you were working at your computer.

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  #17  
Old January 16th 16, 11:22 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:17:39 -0000, edevils wrote:

On 16/01/2016 22:53, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 21:43:05 -0000, edevils
wrote:

On 16/01/2016 20:39, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:31:43 -0000, edevils
wrote:

On 16/01/2016 18:14, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:06:39 -0000, Paul wrote:

Fritz Wuehler wrote:

So, free Windows is just like Linux now. A lot of code and
promising crap that never gets fixed or developed further.

Most of the time, we end up not understanding
why they're changing things. If the objective was
to in an obvious way, "make Win10 better and better",
I might have a more positive attitude to the rolling
release idea and what they're actually doing to it.

For example, the desktop version uses Windows
Update. The latest builds added Update Orchestrator,
which sits above Windows Update, a piece of software
used on the Enterprise edition. Do consumers
need Update Orchestrator ? No.
Did the policies in the OS change, because
of the presence of Update Orchestrator ? Yes.
Is the overall change an improvement for
consumers ? No.

The desktop version is being used as a testbed,
and for ideas that may have no positive impact
on the consumer version itself. And that's not
really the intention of the rolling release idea.
It's an abuse of rolling release.

Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And
it's
not gone wrong once.

It works for me too, but the fact that it is being used as a testbed,
like Paul put it, combined with the nearly "unstoppable" automatic
updates, makes me a bit unconfortable. I mean, a new feature update
could break it any time, could it not?

I don't feel like I'm using a Beta version. It's more reliable than
previous models.


I am not having problems either. But we don't know what issues a new
feature may or may not cause in the future. The difference between
Windows 10 and previous windows versions is that Windows 10
automatically updates itself with new features.


And with previous versions, most of us did this anyway.


There is a huge difference though. You didn't upgrade to a new Windows
version in the middle of a working day. You knew that something *might*
sometimes go wrong. So, you took the jump to the new features only if
and when you wanted to.


Er.... I still do that now. I don't even know updates are available until I press start to engage sleep, and notice "install updates and restart" as an option.

And we didn't
know about problems until AFTER the update.


Exactly my point. Now, for you and me, Windows 10 works like a charm,
but we'll find out about problems (or, hopefully, not) AFTER the updates.


And that's exactly what happened to us with previous Windows, so what's the change?

Oh, except there weren't any problems. So what is it you're worrying
about again?


Most times there weren't any problems, but sometimes there were, and you
had to find a fix.


What times? I've NEVER had a problem with an update.

That was OK, anyhow, because you did *not* try and
upgrade Windows while you were working at your computer.


And I still don't. Why are you doing so?

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  #18  
Old January 16th 16, 11:25 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On 16/01/2016 22:47, Jake wrote:


"edevils" wrote in message ...

On 16/01/2016 18:14, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:06:39 -0000, Paul wrote:

Fritz Wuehler wrote:

So, free Windows is just like Linux now. A lot of code and
promising crap that never gets fixed or developed further.

Most of the time, we end up not understanding
why they're changing things. If the objective was
to in an obvious way, "make Win10 better and better",
I might have a more positive attitude to the rolling
release idea and what they're actually doing to it.

For example, the desktop version uses Windows
Update. The latest builds added Update Orchestrator,
which sits above Windows Update, a piece of software
used on the Enterprise edition. Do consumers
need Update Orchestrator ? No.
Did the policies in the OS change, because
of the presence of Update Orchestrator ? Yes.
Is the overall change an improvement for
consumers ? No.

The desktop version is being used as a testbed,
and for ideas that may have no positive impact
on the consumer version itself. And that's not
really the intention of the rolling release idea.
It's an abuse of rolling release.


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And it's
not gone wrong once.


It works for me too, but the fact that it is being used as a testbed,
like Paul put it, combined with the nearly "unstoppable" automatic
updates, makes me a bit unconfortable. I mean, a new feature update
could break it any time, could it not?


I've allowed MS to update my machines automatically for years without an
issue.



Same here.
But automatic updates did not include new features, usually, in previous
Windows versions.


However, a Win 10 update a few weeks ago did change some of my
settings. But no problems since then.
But since we have no choice, lets see how it plays out.


However, Windows 10 *Professional* allows you to defer risky feature
upgrades, while still receiving security patches as soon as they are
released. That's why I deem Pro safer than Home.

  #19  
Old January 16th 16, 11:54 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:25:12 -0000, edevils wrote:

On 16/01/2016 22:47, Jake wrote:


"edevils" wrote in message ...

On 16/01/2016 18:14, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:06:39 -0000, Paul wrote:

Fritz Wuehler wrote:

So, free Windows is just like Linux now. A lot of code and
promising crap that never gets fixed or developed further.

Most of the time, we end up not understanding
why they're changing things. If the objective was
to in an obvious way, "make Win10 better and better",
I might have a more positive attitude to the rolling
release idea and what they're actually doing to it.

For example, the desktop version uses Windows
Update. The latest builds added Update Orchestrator,
which sits above Windows Update, a piece of software
used on the Enterprise edition. Do consumers
need Update Orchestrator ? No.
Did the policies in the OS change, because
of the presence of Update Orchestrator ? Yes.
Is the overall change an improvement for
consumers ? No.

The desktop version is being used as a testbed,
and for ideas that may have no positive impact
on the consumer version itself. And that's not
really the intention of the rolling release idea.
It's an abuse of rolling release.

Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And it's
not gone wrong once.


It works for me too, but the fact that it is being used as a testbed,
like Paul put it, combined with the nearly "unstoppable" automatic
updates, makes me a bit unconfortable. I mean, a new feature update
could break it any time, could it not?


I've allowed MS to update my machines automatically for years without an
issue.


Same here.
But automatic updates did not include new features, usually, in previous
Windows versions.


Why would that increase the chances of a monumental ****up?

However, a Win 10 update a few weeks ago did change some of my
settings. But no problems since then.
But since we have no choice, lets see how it plays out.


However, Windows 10 *Professional* allows you to defer risky feature
upgrades, while still receiving security patches as soon as they are
released. That's why I deem Pro safer than Home.


Why would anyone have less than the full version?

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  #20  
Old January 17th 16, 12:13 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On 01/16/2016 02:38 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:23:03 -0000, Thip wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:38:35 -0000, Paul wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And it's
not gone wrong once.

Yes, I can see your carefully reasoned argument.

It's my experience. Windows doesn't annoy me at all. The only thing M$
ever did that irritated me was Metro in Windows 8, which made me use
classic shell. Apart from that, M$ have done nothing but improve Windows.


What irritates me is that MS is trying to ram 10 down my throat. That's my
decision, not theirs.


You don't need to have the decision to use the second best Windows. And for ****'s sake it's FREE! It's unbelievable that Microsoft are for once GIVING STUFF AWAY then people STILL bloody complain about it. For crying out loud, get a life!


It's not that it's being given free it's because they are
trying to force everyone to upgrade when there is no reason
for this attitude.

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  #21  
Old January 17th 16, 12:27 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:13:10 -0000, Caver1 wrote:

On 01/16/2016 02:38 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:23:03 -0000, Thip wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:38:35 -0000, Paul wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And it's
not gone wrong once.

Yes, I can see your carefully reasoned argument.

It's my experience. Windows doesn't annoy me at all. The only thing M$
ever did that irritated me was Metro in Windows 8, which made me use
classic shell. Apart from that, M$ have done nothing but improve Windows.

What irritates me is that MS is trying to ram 10 down my throat. That's my
decision, not theirs.


You don't need to have the decision to use the second best Windows. And for ****'s sake it's FREE! It's unbelievable that Microsoft are for once GIVING STUFF AWAY then people STILL bloody complain about it. For crying out loud, get a life!


It's not that it's being given free it's because they are
trying to force everyone to upgrade when there is no reason
for this attitude.


So, you're driving a Lada about, and I give you a free Ferrari and take your Lada away. Would you complain?

And look at it from their point of view. Why should they expend more effort and expense looking after more than one OS just for the luddites?

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  #22  
Old January 17th 16, 12:45 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
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"Mr Macaw" wrote in news
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:13:10 -0000, Caver1 wrote:

On 01/16/2016 02:38 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:23:03 -0000, Thip wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message

news
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:38:35 -0000, Paul wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And

it's
not gone wrong once.

Yes, I can see your carefully reasoned argument.

It's my experience. Windows doesn't annoy me at all. The only

thing M$
ever did that irritated me was Metro in Windows 8, which made me use
classic shell. Apart from that, M$ have done nothing but improve

Windows.

What irritates me is that MS is trying to ram 10 down my throat.

That's my
decision, not theirs.

You don't need to have the decision to use the second best Windows.

And for ****'s sake it's FREE! It's unbelievable that Microsoft are for
once GIVING STUFF AWAY then people STILL bloody complain about it. For
crying out loud, get a life!

It's not that it's being given free it's because they are
trying to force everyone to upgrade when there is no reason
for this attitude.


So, you're driving a Lada about, and I give you a free Ferrari


LOL
  #23  
Old January 17th 16, 12:50 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server
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edevils wrote:

There is a huge difference though. You didn't upgrade to a new Windows
version in the middle of a working day. You knew that something *might*
sometimes go wrong. So, you took the jump to the new features only if
and when you wanted to.


If it isn't broke, don't fix it. There have been only rare times when I
actually needed to update Windows, at least since Windows XP
  #24  
Old January 17th 16, 12:51 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server
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"Mr Macaw" wrote:

edevils wrote:


Most times there weren't any problems, but sometimes there were, and
you had to find a fix.


What times? I've NEVER had a problem with an update.


That's because you are clueless twit who hardly uses a computer.
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Old January 17th 16, 12:52 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:13:10 -0500
Caver1 wrote:

On 01/16/2016 02:38 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:23:03 -0000, Thip wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:38:35 -0000, Paul
wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used.
And it's not gone wrong once.

Yes, I can see your carefully reasoned argument.

It's my experience. Windows doesn't annoy me at all. The only
thing M$ ever did that irritated me was Metro in Windows 8, which
made me use classic shell. Apart from that, M$ have done nothing
but improve Windows.

What irritates me is that MS is trying to ram 10 down my throat.
That's my decision, not theirs.


You don't need to have the decision to use the second best
Windows. And for ****'s sake it's FREE! It's unbelievable that
Microsoft are for once GIVING STUFF AWAY then people STILL bloody
complain about it. For crying out loud, get a life!


It's not that it's being given free it's because they are
trying to force everyone to upgrade when there is no reason
for this attitude.


I'm sure Microsoft has a reason for that attitude.

I think Microsoft is giving it away free for two reasons, and both are
money. One is money from the users, because Windows will become a
service that you have to pay for just like your phone bill, and the
other is money from the government for the information it collects
about its customers.

Windows 10 convinced me to stop using any Microsoft products, and I
have removed Windows from all my computers.
  #26  
Old January 17th 16, 01:13 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:52:44 -0000, Johnny wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:13:10 -0500
Caver1 wrote:

On 01/16/2016 02:38 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:23:03 -0000, Thip wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:38:35 -0000, Paul
wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used.
And it's not gone wrong once.

Yes, I can see your carefully reasoned argument.

It's my experience. Windows doesn't annoy me at all. The only
thing M$ ever did that irritated me was Metro in Windows 8, which
made me use classic shell. Apart from that, M$ have done nothing
but improve Windows.

What irritates me is that MS is trying to ram 10 down my throat.
That's my decision, not theirs.

You don't need to have the decision to use the second best
Windows. And for ****'s sake it's FREE! It's unbelievable that
Microsoft are for once GIVING STUFF AWAY then people STILL bloody
complain about it. For crying out loud, get a life!


It's not that it's being given free it's because they are
trying to force everyone to upgrade when there is no reason
for this attitude.


I'm sure Microsoft has a reason for that attitude.

I think Microsoft is giving it away free for two reasons, and both are
money. One is money from the users, because Windows will become a
service that you have to pay for just like your phone bill, and the
other is money from the government for the information it collects
about its customers.

Windows 10 convinced me to stop using any Microsoft products, and I
have removed Windows from all my computers.


What a ridiculous overreaction. I continue to use Windows because:
It's what I'm used to.
It's got a better interface than other OSs.
It's what most people use, which means more programs available and it's the assumed default when anything needs fixing etc.
Oh and it's now free!

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  #27  
Old January 17th 16, 01:23 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server,free.usenet,free.spirit
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If Windows 10 were in fact "free" Microsoft wouldn't be trying to force
it on everyone.

This regular troll is too clueless to know that software claiming to be
"free" is in fact not free if it is a waste of time, especially when the
beta version is being forced on users.


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On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:52:44 -0000, Johnny johnny invalid.net wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:13:10 -0500
Caver1 caver1 inthemud.org wrote:

On 01/16/2016 02:38 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:23:03 -0000, Thip me privacy.net wrote:

"Mr Macaw" no spam.com wrote in message
newsp.ybcer3cc86ebyl red.lan...
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:38:35 -0000, Paul nospam needed.com
wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used.
And it's not gone wrong once.

Yes, I can see your carefully reasoned argument.

It's my experience. Windows doesn't annoy me at all. The only
thing M$ ever did that irritated me was Metro in Windows 8, which
made me use classic shell. Apart from that, M$ have done nothing
but improve Windows.

What irritates me is that MS is trying to ram 10 down my throat.
That's my decision, not theirs.

You don't need to have the decision to use the second best
Windows. And for ****'s sake it's FREE! It's unbelievable that
Microsoft are for once GIVING STUFF AWAY then people STILL bloody
complain about it. For crying out loud, get a life!


It's not that it's being given free it's because they are
trying to force everyone to upgrade when there is no reason
for this attitude.


I'm sure Microsoft has a reason for that attitude.

I think Microsoft is giving it away free for two reasons, and both are
money. One is money from the users, because Windows will become a
service that you have to pay for just like your phone bill, and the
other is money from the government for the information it collects
about its customers.

Windows 10 convinced me to stop using any Microsoft products, and I
have removed Windows from all my computers.


What a ridiculous overreaction. I continue to use Windows because:
It's what I'm used to.
It's got a better interface than other OSs.
It's what most people use, which means more programs available and it's the assumed default when anything needs fixing etc.
Oh and it's now free!

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Old January 17th 16, 01:30 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On 2016-01-16 6:52 PM, Johnny wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:13:10 -0500
Caver1 wrote:

On 01/16/2016 02:38 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:23:03 -0000, Thip wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:38:35 -0000, Paul
wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used.
And it's not gone wrong once.

Yes, I can see your carefully reasoned argument.

It's my experience. Windows doesn't annoy me at all. The only
thing M$ ever did that irritated me was Metro in Windows 8, which
made me use classic shell. Apart from that, M$ have done nothing
but improve Windows.

What irritates me is that MS is trying to ram 10 down my throat.
That's my decision, not theirs.

You don't need to have the decision to use the second best
Windows. And for ****'s sake it's FREE! It's unbelievable that
Microsoft are for once GIVING STUFF AWAY then people STILL bloody
complain about it. For crying out loud, get a life!


It's not that it's being given free it's because they are
trying to force everyone to upgrade when there is no reason
for this attitude.


I'm sure Microsoft has a reason for that attitude.

I think Microsoft is giving it away free for two reasons, and both are
money. One is money from the users, because Windows will become a
service that you have to pay for just like your phone bill, and the
other is money from the government for the information it collects
about its customers.

Windows 10 convinced me to stop using any Microsoft products, and I
have removed Windows from all my computers.


I don't believe that Windows 10 will be a service that you pay for.
Everyone is assuming that will happen but so far, not one soul has any
evidence of that happening anytime soon.


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Old January 17th 16, 01:32 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server
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Default 'Get Windows 10' Turns Itself On and Nags Win 7 and 8.1 Users Twice a Day



"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 22:25:12 -0000, edevils
wrote:

On 16/01/2016 22:47, Jake wrote:


"edevils" wrote in message ...

On 16/01/2016 18:14, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:06:39 -0000, Paul wrote:

Fritz Wuehler wrote:

So, free Windows is just like Linux now. A lot of code and
promising crap that never gets fixed or developed further.

Most of the time, we end up not understanding
why they're changing things. If the objective was
to in an obvious way, "make Win10 better and better",
I might have a more positive attitude to the rolling
release idea and what they're actually doing to it.

For example, the desktop version uses Windows
Update. The latest builds added Update Orchestrator,
which sits above Windows Update, a piece of software
used on the Enterprise edition. Do consumers
need Update Orchestrator ? No.
Did the policies in the OS change, because
of the presence of Update Orchestrator ? Yes.
Is the overall change an improvement for
consumers ? No.

The desktop version is being used as a testbed,
and for ideas that may have no positive impact
on the consumer version itself. And that's not
really the intention of the rolling release idea.
It's an abuse of rolling release.

Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used. And it's
not gone wrong once.


It works for me too, but the fact that it is being used as a testbed,
like Paul put it, combined with the nearly "unstoppable" automatic
updates, makes me a bit unconfortable. I mean, a new feature update
could break it any time, could it not?


I've allowed MS to update my machines automatically for years without an
issue.


Same here.
But automatic updates did not include new features, usually, in previous
Windows versions.


Why would that increase the chances of a monumental ****up?


However, a Win 10 update a few weeks ago did change some of my
settings. But no problems since then.
But since we have no choice, lets see how it plays out.


However, Windows 10 *Professional* allows you to defer risky feature
upgrades, while still receiving security patches as soon as they are
released. That's why I deem Pro safer than Home.


Why would anyone have less than the full version?


Now that is an interesting question. I've got what the machine came with.
Since it's "free", I'm wondering if I can upgrade free?

I'm going to sniff around.

I'll keep you posted.


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Old January 17th 16, 01:34 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server
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On 2016-01-16 7:13 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 23:52:44 -0000, Johnny wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 18:13:10 -0500
Caver1 wrote:

On 01/16/2016 02:38 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:23:03 -0000, Thip wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 17:38:35 -0000, Paul
wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:


Yawn..... it works for me, it's the nicest OS I've ever used.
And it's not gone wrong once.

Yes, I can see your carefully reasoned argument.

It's my experience. Windows doesn't annoy me at all. The only
thing M$ ever did that irritated me was Metro in Windows 8, which
made me use classic shell. Apart from that, M$ have done nothing
but improve Windows.

What irritates me is that MS is trying to ram 10 down my throat.
That's my decision, not theirs.

You don't need to have the decision to use the second best
Windows. And for ****'s sake it's FREE! It's unbelievable that
Microsoft are for once GIVING STUFF AWAY then people STILL bloody
complain about it. For crying out loud, get a life!


It's not that it's being given free it's because they are
trying to force everyone to upgrade when there is no reason
for this attitude.


I'm sure Microsoft has a reason for that attitude.

I think Microsoft is giving it away free for two reasons, and both are
money. One is money from the users, because Windows will become a
service that you have to pay for just like your phone bill, and the
other is money from the government for the information it collects
about its customers.

Windows 10 convinced me to stop using any Microsoft products, and I
have removed Windows from all my computers.


What a ridiculous overreaction. I continue to use Windows because:
It's what I'm used to.
It's got a better interface than other OSs.
It's what most people use, which means more programs available and it's
the assumed default when anything needs fixing etc.
Oh and it's now free!


Everyone is expecting the absolute worst from Windows 10 going forward
and people seem to be forgetting that Microsoft is AWARE that many
people buy computers and can't/won't afford to pay a monthly fee to use
the operating system. It is incredibly unlikely that they'll turn the OS
into a service and charge for it, especially since they already seem to
be making money from it through the (anonymous) data they acquire from
the users. It's what Google has done and it works for them so there's no
reason to believe that Microsoft won't do the same thing.

Everyone points to Office 365 but it's inconsequential as that suite is
not monitored (anonymously) in the same manner that Windows is.


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