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  #31  
Old February 17th 16, 10:21 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 02/17/2016 04:15 PM, William Unruh wrote:
On 2016-02-17, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 2:13 PM, Paul wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/

I installed Linux two days ago... it ignored my RAID and once
installed, froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working
at all after an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't
deserve to be run in general.


Sorry to hear that. That is not usual.
Not sure what you mean "ignored my Raid".
No idea what Steam is.

You give no details so you are going to get no help.



Did you research what distro that Steam gamers are using ?

My guess is, you picked the wrong distro for this.


Typical Linux user response. There should be no handicap to a Linux user
who chooses Sabayon over Debian; they should all work in the same
manner. The fact that they don't highlights one of the many problems
with Linux.


And what is the excuse that every version of Windows works differently?


migration for the array.


Good points but I don't respect an operating system which, in 2016,
still doesn't recognize what the Hell a RAID is. It's a very old


?? Linux has done raid for 20 years by now.

technology so it's surprising that some distributions would ignore it
entirely.


some people want it some people want to use their disks for other things
than speed or duplication.




Slimer hasn't used Linux in at least 20 years if ever.

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  #32  
Old February 17th 16, 11:14 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-02-17 3:16 PM, philo wrote:
On 02/17/2016 01:45 PM, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 2:06 PM, philo wrote:
On 02/17/2016 12:35 PM, Slimer wrote:
als, howtos, etc.

I was tested as having a 140 IQ when I was 22. Meanwhile, I am smarter
now than I have ever been in my past. Don't question my intelligence at
refusing to use an operating system which demands that I jump through
hoops just to get it working properly; question yourself for having
such
low standards and self-esteem as to accept such mediocrity on your
hardware.




You proved you are a dummy because IQ does not change that much with
age, but if at all, it goes down.


Your mathematical skill improves with age as does your logic. I disagree
wholeheartedly with your assessment.



Maybe you are getting smarter with age but I am sure getting dumber...
at any rate I find Linux easy enough to figure out...but if I have to
strain a bit at times, it's always been a good learning experience.


I learned Linux because I lost trust in proprietary code before and
after's Edward Snowden's revelations (some time before and very much
after). However, the experience was so miserable that despite what I
learned and despite my love for free software, I simply could not
stomach it anymore.

If you are as smart as you claim to be, yet cannot figure things out
then what's left is that you are lazy.


The thing is, I DID figure _it_ out as well as the fact that it simply
doesn't work right.

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After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.
  #33  
Old February 17th 16, 11:18 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-02-17 4:13 PM, John Q. Public wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 1:10 AM, John Q. Public wrote:
Slimer wrote:
1. Run Linux LiveCD, enjoy what I'm using.
2. Attempt to install Linux. For whatever reason, it doesn't see my
RAID
and forces me to use my two SSDs as separate drives rather than just
one.
3. Install Linux anyway and am pleased to discover that all of the
hardware works. Don't mind that startup goes from taking 8 seconds to
about 60.
4. Run Steam, it asks to update.
5. Update the whole computer.
6. Steam suddenly doesn't load at all.
7. Try to restore the Macrium Reflect image of my previous Windows 10
install: it fails (apparently because the RAID I re-created is
different
even though the settings are identical. However, it claims that the
image is corrupted).
8. Try to restore my computer's image of Windows 8.1 OS install,
created
when I purchased the machine. It fails as well.
9. Out of desperate, try to restore an image of the whole computer and
risk losing all of my data. Luckily, it works without deleting the data
I was careful to put on a separate drive.
10. Partitions are suddenly out of whack even though the RAID was for
two M.2 SSD drives totaling 240GB. Everything works but EaseUS is used
to correct the partitions and bring everything back to normal.

Windows 10? No wonder you had problems.


With Windows 8.1 and 10, my computer boots to the desktop in about 8
seconds and is completely ready for action after about 20. In Linux, one
whole minute and the icons in KDE still hadn't appeared. Not only that
but if my display turned off in Linux (kernel 4.4 btw), it froze the
computer. That is definitely not what I would consider to be quality.

Try installing Linux with
Windows 10 nowhere near the machine.


Linux is like a Chrysler car; if it is anywhere near something better,
it breaks down and leaves you stranded on the highway.

And when you do, install Linux Mint
Mate and then get back to us with your stereotypes, biases and
ignorance.


The typical answer of a Linux loser: you chose the wrong one of our
hundreds of distributions. #371 is the right one.

BTW, Windows 10 is more of a store than an operating system. Be prepared
to pay rent soon.


We'll see. If that happens, I'd still rather pay whatever Microsoft asks.


Another Windows loser that's lost his ability to think logically.


I'm not sure about that:

User tries Linux then user discovers that it's garbage so he returns to
Windows.

Nope, the logic is perfect.


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Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.
  #34  
Old February 17th 16, 11:21 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2016-02-17 4:15 PM, mike wrote:
On 2/17/2016 11:06 AM, philo wrote:


You are basically just too lazy to learn.

Because it works differently from Windows, many Linux newbies think it's
broken.


It's not that it works differently. You can learn to use something
different
if it works.
Problem is that they can't figger out HOW to make it work.
Or they reached their frustration limit.
If a mere mortal can't make it work, it's broken.

Linux is a great bunch of parts. But it's packaged as an onion
of frustration. Fix one thing and there's another layer right beneath.
Then somebody changes the onion altogether so you get to start over.

You wanna see what desktop linux could be, go download macpup 5.29.
The damn thing just works. You don't have to try to understand what
nouveau is.
You don't have to learn about windows networking to talk to your windows
network.
I could go on and on and on about the frustrations new users would never
encounter with puppy.

Puppy is built with the USER in mind.
Most desktop linux distros are built with the developer in mind...all
zillion of them at cross purposes.


My experience with it thus far (since 1994) has been that you are
absolutely correct. It has gotten better, but it has yet to cater to the
user rather than the programmer.

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Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.
  #35  
Old February 17th 16, 11:25 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Slimer
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On 2016-02-17 4:15 PM, William Unruh wrote:
On 2016-02-17, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 2:13 PM, Paul wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/

I installed Linux two days ago... it ignored my RAID and once
installed, froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working
at all after an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't
deserve to be run in general.


Sorry to hear that. That is not usual.
Not sure what you mean "ignored my Raid".
No idea what Steam is.

You give no details so you are going to get no help.


By "ignored my RAID" I meant that my two 128GB M.2 SSDs were set up to
be treated as one 240GB M.2 SSD in RAID0. It helps with speed and I find
it most convenient. Linux decided that despite the RAID, they are two
separate hard disks and deserve to be treated solely as such. Steam is a
system through which people can purchase and download games.



Did you research what distro that Steam gamers are using ?

My guess is, you picked the wrong distro for this.


Typical Linux user response. There should be no handicap to a Linux user
who chooses Sabayon over Debian; they should all work in the same
manner. The fact that they don't highlights one of the many problems
with Linux.


And what is the excuse that every version of Windows works differently?


In all versions of Windows, Steam works the same. What Linux apologists
here are ignoring is that Steam is BUNDLED WITH Sabayon and therefore
configured correctly from the moment you install the operating system.
Meanwhile, an update to it from within the operating system in which it
is installed by default breaks it. Tell me, honestly, if Windows would
have done the same thing.


migration for the array.


Good points but I don't respect an operating system which, in 2016,
still doesn't recognize what the Hell a RAID is. It's a very old


?? Linux has done raid for 20 years by now.


Not Sabayon, apparently.

technology so it's surprising that some distributions would ignore it
entirely.


some people want it some people want to use their disks for other things
than speed or duplication.


That's fine but Linux forces me to use it in one way only. That's not
software freedom in any sense of the term.

--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.
  #36  
Old February 17th 16, 11:48 PM posted to alt.os.linux, alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2/17/16 1:05 PM, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 2:13 PM, Paul wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:


snip

Typical Linux user response. There should be no handicap to a Linux user
who chooses Sabayon over Debian; they should all work in the same
manner. The fact that they don't highlights one of the many problems
with Linux.


So, you want them all to work the same? Where's user choice, to find a
system that fits them?

I know what Steam is, but personally, have no use for it. I'm in no way
a gamer. Why would I care whether Steam runs or not. :-)

Just askin'.

--
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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 44.0
Thunderbird 38.0.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"
  #37  
Old February 18th 16, 12:32 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 02/17/2016 04:14 PM, Slimer wrote:
XX
snip


The thing is, I DID figure _it_ out as well as the fact that it simply
doesn't work right.




By now you should know that NOTHING in this world works right, you need
to fix it yourself, find a work around or be forever lost.

If you were really bright, you would have commented on my fine and
literate poem.



  #38  
Old February 18th 16, 12:47 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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William Unruh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

On 2016-02-17, Slimer wrote:


He's a troll, and his trolling specialty is over-the-top lies.

--
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  #39  
Old February 18th 16, 12:51 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
William Unruh
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On 2016-02-17, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 4:15 PM, William Unruh wrote:
On 2016-02-17, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 2:13 PM, Paul wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/

I installed Linux two days ago... it ignored my RAID and once
installed, froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working
at all after an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't
deserve to be run in general.


Sorry to hear that. That is not usual.
Not sure what you mean "ignored my Raid".
No idea what Steam is.

You give no details so you are going to get no help.


By "ignored my RAID" I meant that my two 128GB M.2 SSDs were set up to
be treated as one 240GB M.2 SSD in RAID0. It helps with speed and I find


What kind of raid? I think what you meant was that you forgot to tell
Linux to use those two as raid. It has no idea what you want done with
the disks. You have to tell it.

it most convenient. Linux decided that despite the RAID, they are two
separate hard disks and deserve to be treated solely as such. Steam is a


The ARE two separate hard drives. You have to tell Linux to treat them
as one.

system through which people can purchase and download games.



Did you research what distro that Steam gamers are using ?

My guess is, you picked the wrong distro for this.

Typical Linux user response. There should be no handicap to a Linux user
who chooses Sabayon over Debian; they should all work in the same
manner. The fact that they don't highlights one of the many problems
with Linux.


And what is the excuse that every version of Windows works differently?


In all versions of Windows, Steam works the same. What Linux apologists


But many things do not. Neither linux nor windows has as their sole
purpose the running of Steam. Thus as with any program, things could go
awry. If you downloaded Sabayon's verstion of the updated Steam, and
read the update instructions, then that is clearly a bug if it stops
working, and you have a right to complain and file a bug report with
Sabayon.


here are ignoring is that Steam is BUNDLED WITH Sabayon and therefore
configured correctly from the moment you install the operating system.
Meanwhile, an update to it from within the operating system in which it
is installed by default breaks it. Tell me, honestly, if Windows would
have done the same thing.


Sure. Updating Microsoft office has often broken things.




migration for the array.

Good points but I don't respect an operating system which, in 2016,
still doesn't recognize what the Hell a RAID is. It's a very old


?? Linux has done raid for 20 years by now.


Not Sabayon, apparently.

technology so it's surprising that some distributions would ignore it
entirely.


some people want it some people want to use their disks for other things
than speed or duplication.


That's fine but Linux forces me to use it in one way only. That's not
software freedom in any sense of the term.


No it does not. Linux allows me and you to use your disks for raid if
you wish. I have done so.


  #40  
Old February 18th 16, 01:01 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Slimer
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On 2016-02-17 6:32 PM, philo wrote:
On 02/17/2016 04:14 PM, Slimer wrote:
XX
snip


The thing is, I DID figure _it_ out as well as the fact that it simply
doesn't work right.




By now you should know that NOTHING in this world works right,


My BMW 428i sure does.

you need
to fix it yourself, find a work around or be forever lost.


It is unacceptable that a default, untouched desktop already have
problems from a simple update.

If you were really bright, you would have commented on my fine and
literate poem.


I snipped it because your level of English was fairly embarrassing as
was the suggestion that it was somehow a poem.


--
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OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.
  #41  
Old February 18th 16, 01:04 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Slimer
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On 2016-02-17 6:47 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
William Unruh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

On 2016-02-17, Slimer wrote:


He's a troll, and his trolling specialty is over-the-top lies.


ROFL.

Welcome Chris Ahlstrom. Regale us all in the tales of how you wiped
men's "pee-pees," how you would be honoured to meet Richard Stallman and
how your wife provides you with a $20 allowance and then demands to know
where you spent it you living, breathing, Usenet embarrassment.


--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.
  #42  
Old February 18th 16, 01:08 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Slimer
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On 2016-02-17 6:51 PM, William Unruh wrote:
On 2016-02-17, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 4:15 PM, William Unruh wrote:
On 2016-02-17, Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 2:13 PM, Paul wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/

I installed Linux two days ago... it ignored my RAID and once
installed, froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working
at all after an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't
deserve to be run in general.

Sorry to hear that. That is not usual.
Not sure what you mean "ignored my Raid".
No idea what Steam is.

You give no details so you are going to get no help.


By "ignored my RAID" I meant that my two 128GB M.2 SSDs were set up to
be treated as one 240GB M.2 SSD in RAID0. It helps with speed and I find


What kind of raid? I think what you meant was that you forgot to tell
Linux to use those two as raid. It has no idea what you want done with
the disks. You have to tell it.


RAID0. I know how to "tell" Linux how to do things, it simply didn't see
the RAID which had been set by the damned BIOS. This is a Linux problem,
not a user or computer problem.

it most convenient. Linux decided that despite the RAID, they are two
separate hard disks and deserve to be treated solely as such. Steam is a


The ARE two separate hard drives. You have to tell Linux to treat them
as one.


Which should be automatic considering the RAID0 was configured from the
BIOS and is already treated like a single drive the moment the bootup
process completes.


And what is the excuse that every version of Windows works differently?


In all versions of Windows, Steam works the same. What Linux apologists


But many things do not. Neither linux nor windows has as their sole
purpose the running of Steam. Thus as with any program, things could go
awry. If you downloaded Sabayon's verstion of the updated Steam, and
read the update instructions, then that is clearly a bug if it stops
working, and you have a right to complain and file a bug report with
Sabayon.


If I reported every bug I faced in Linux, I'd run out of time to do
other things in my day. Hell, I'd have to skip going to the bathroom.

here are ignoring is that Steam is BUNDLED WITH Sabayon and therefore
configured correctly from the moment you install the operating system.
Meanwhile, an update to it from within the operating system in which it
is installed by default breaks it. Tell me, honestly, if Windows would
have done the same thing.


Sure. Updating Microsoft office has often broken things.


I'm sure it has, never for me though.

That's fine but Linux forces me to use it in one way only. That's not
software freedom in any sense of the term.


No it does not. Linux allows me and you to use your disks for raid if
you wish. I have done so.


I don't believe what Linux users claim anymore.

--
Slimer
OpenMedia & EFF Member / Conservative Party of Canada, IFAW, PETA &
Mozilla Supporter

After several serious attempts at using Linux, I can honestly say that
the word is synonymous with garbage.
  #43  
Old February 18th 16, 01:10 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
philo
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On 02/17/2016 06:01 PM, Slimer wrote:


I snipped it because your level of English was fairly embarrassing as
was the suggestion that it was somehow a poem.





Ok I'll give you another one to critique:





Not a good day.
It sticks out like a sore thumb:
My unkempt shirt.
The ringing in my head.
My hair,
Uncombed.

It sticks out like a sore thumb:
My hangover.
The newspaper headlines,
Bearing foul news.
The dented wreak.

It sticks out like a sore thumb:
My ill fitting job.
The grizzled dog.
A whole city now decayed
And polluted.

It sticks out like a sore thumb:
Everything in my life.
Ironically all,
Save my sore thumb,
Which I’ve bandaged tightly.
  #44  
Old February 18th 16, 02:03 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul
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Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 2:13 PM, Paul wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-16 11:34 PM, /less wrote:
Try the live cd, it's fun!
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.reactos.org/

I installed Linux two days ago... it ignored my RAID and once
installed, froze after going to sleep and prevented Steam from working
at all after an update. To say the least, mediocre software doesn't
deserve to be run in general.


Did you research what distro that Steam gamers are using ?

My guess is, you picked the wrong distro for this.


Typical Linux user response. There should be no handicap to a Linux user
who chooses Sabayon over Debian; they should all work in the same
manner. The fact that they don't highlights one of the many problems
with Linux.

Remember that some distros have a relatively small
team of people working on them. Or, the "scope" of the
project is way too big, and the fit and finish ends
up lacking.

While people may have issues with the direction Ubuntu
is taking, if I needed something to work, I might start
there (their Repository is in good shape). But I'm saying
that, without collecting the opinion of Steam users, and
Linux Steam users are likely to already have identified
a good distro for the purpose. The idea being, gaming is #1,
and all other considerations are secondary. Their
game might always work, but maybe some other thing
is less than perfect.

And as for running a RAID, did you do any reading
on the topic first ? If I had a RAID, I wouldn't
just "whap in a copy of Linux" and expect a miracle.
Usually some pre-install reading is in order,
even with other OSes, to achieve the best outcome.
For example, some RAID packages support "migration",
you can install the OS on a single disk, then
"migrate" to a RAID 0/1/5 config, and the RAID
rebuilds while you work. But for that to happen,
first you'd have to realize the brand of RAID
supports migration, and you learn that by reading.
I can think of at least two RAID implementations,
where extra effort was put into software RAID
migration for the array.


Good points but I don't respect an operating system which, in 2016,
still doesn't recognize what the Hell a RAID is. It's a very old
technology so it's surprising that some distributions would ignore it
entirely.


Here's an article identifying some distros for Steam.
SteamOS is in the list. It would be pretty hard for
a distro like that ot get distracted.

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/sof...istros-1293840

*******

It took me a while to stumble on a good article,
but your kind of RAID is probably called "fakeRAID",
since the chipset RAID doesn't have actual hardware
support. There is no XOR in hardware for doing
parity on RAID5 for example.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RAID

"Therefore, this type of RAID is sometimes called FakeRAID.
dmraid from the official repositories, will be used to
deal with these controllers. Here are some examples of
FakeRAID controllers: Intel Rapid Storage, JMicron JMB36x
RAID ROM, AMD RAID, ASMedia 106x, and NVIDIA MediaShield.
"

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto

"Ubiquity will fail when installing grub, and will not
automatically add dmraid to the new installation. This
needs to be done manually."

So you do have to read about it first.

Paul
  #45  
Old February 18th 16, 02:10 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
John Q. Public[_7_]
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Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 4:13 PM, John Q. Public wrote:
Slimer wrote:
On 2016-02-17 1:10 AM, John Q. Public wrote:
Slimer wrote:
1. Run Linux LiveCD, enjoy what I'm using.
2. Attempt to install Linux. For whatever reason, it doesn't see my
RAID
and forces me to use my two SSDs as separate drives rather than just
one.
3. Install Linux anyway and am pleased to discover that all of the
hardware works. Don't mind that startup goes from taking 8 seconds to
about 60.
4. Run Steam, it asks to update.
5. Update the whole computer.
6. Steam suddenly doesn't load at all.
7. Try to restore the Macrium Reflect image of my previous Windows 10
install: it fails (apparently because the RAID I re-created is
different
even though the settings are identical. However, it claims that the
image is corrupted).
8. Try to restore my computer's image of Windows 8.1 OS install,
created
when I purchased the machine. It fails as well.
9. Out of desperate, try to restore an image of the whole computer and
risk losing all of my data. Luckily, it works without deleting the
data
I was careful to put on a separate drive.
10. Partitions are suddenly out of whack even though the RAID was for
two M.2 SSD drives totaling 240GB. Everything works but EaseUS is used
to correct the partitions and bring everything back to normal.

Windows 10? No wonder you had problems.

With Windows 8.1 and 10, my computer boots to the desktop in about 8
seconds and is completely ready for action after about 20. In Linux, one
whole minute and the icons in KDE still hadn't appeared. Not only that
but if my display turned off in Linux (kernel 4.4 btw), it froze the
computer. That is definitely not what I would consider to be quality.

Try installing Linux with
Windows 10 nowhere near the machine.

Linux is like a Chrysler car; if it is anywhere near something better,
it breaks down and leaves you stranded on the highway.

And when you do, install Linux Mint
Mate and then get back to us with your stereotypes, biases and
ignorance.

The typical answer of a Linux loser: you chose the wrong one of our
hundreds of distributions. #371 is the right one.

BTW, Windows 10 is more of a store than an operating system. Be
prepared
to pay rent soon.

We'll see. If that happens, I'd still rather pay whatever Microsoft
asks.


Another Windows loser that's lost his ability to think logically.


I'm not sure about that:

User tries Linux then user discovers that it's garbage so he returns to
Windows.

Nope, the logic is perfect.



I don't have a problem with either one of them. What am I doing wrong?

--
John Q. Public
 




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