KB2952664 and KB3035583

On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 00:24:41 -0400, . . .winston wrote:

B00ze wrote on 10/06/2015 10:27 PM:
On 2015-10-06 18:42, Maurice Helwig
wrote:

Take care, these two updates were pushed out by MS today 2015-10-07
again for about the forth time by my count -- they are to get you to
install Win 10. I have hidden them again as I do not want Win 10

You should also hide the latest version of the Update client, which
Microsoft keeps modifying every month presumably to help it update you
to Win10 and which has caused issues for some people (e.g. the Windows
Update icon in the system tray disappears never to return again).

KB3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows July 2015
KB3075851 Windows Update Client for Windows August 2015
KB3083324 Windows Update Client for Windows September 2015
KB3083710 Windows Update Client for Windows October 2015 - New

Best Regards,


Not relevant, the full WU client will eventually be released in entirety
and install automatically without a KB article that only updates pieces.
If you've any o/s later than Vista, your WU client has been updated
automatically regardless of WU settings.

If that's true -- and, alas, I wouldn't put it past Microsoft -- then
I'm taking bets on how long it will be till they change the Windows
Update client in 7 and 8 to stop letting you choose which updates to
install.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...

Stan Brown wrote on 10/07/2015 6:24 AM:
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 00:24:41 -0400, . . .winston wrote:

B00ze wrote on 10/06/2015 10:27 PM:
On 2015-10-06 18:42, Maurice Helwig
wrote:

Take care, these two updates were pushed out by MS today 2015-10-07
again for about the forth time by my count -- they are to get you to
install Win 10. I have hidden them again as I do not want Win 10

You should also hide the latest version of the Update client, which
Microsoft keeps modifying every month presumably to help it update you
to Win10 and which has caused issues for some people (e.g. the Windows
Update icon in the system tray disappears never to return again).

KB3065987 Windows Update Client for Windows July 2015
KB3075851 Windows Update Client for Windows August 2015
KB3083324 Windows Update Client for Windows September 2015
KB3083710 Windows Update Client for Windows October 2015 - New

Best Regards,


Not relevant, the full WU client will eventually be released in entirety
and install automatically without a KB article that only updates pieces.
If you've any o/s later than Vista, your WU client has been updated
automatically regardless of WU settings.

If that's true -- and, alas, I wouldn't put it past Microsoft -- then
I'm taking bets on how long it will be till they change the Windows
Update client in 7 and 8 to stop letting you choose which updates to
install.

Not going to happen. A bet you're likely to lose.

- No benefit. Win7 is past mainstream support which is usually the
death knoll for making major o/s changes. Win8's user base will
eventually will be dwarfed by 10. Also unlikely due to 7/8 Server based
versions - adding variation across consumer and business related older
o/s has never been a MSFT priority. Budget, effort, expense are all
targeted at 10 and it's future.



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...winston
msft mvp windows experience

On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:42:22 +1000, Maurice Helwig wrote:

Take care, these two updates were pushed out by MS today 2015-10-07
again for about the forth time by my count -- they are to get you to
install Win 10. I have hidden them again as I do not want Win 10

Only KB2952664 was offered, no sign of KB3035583.

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Take care, these two updates were pushed out by MS today 2015-10-07
again for about the forth time by my count -- they are to get you to
install Win 10. I have hidden them again as I do not want Win 10

On mine, 2952664 and 3083710 are being offered as optional. 3035583 is
offered as important.

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On 2015-10-07 00:24, . . .winston wrote:

Not relevant, the full WU client will eventually be released in entirety
and install automatically without a KB article that only updates pieces.

Possibly, but I will see that when it happens. For now, those updates
have caused WU to disappear from the systray even when there were
important updates waiting, so I've decided to skip all those monthly
changes to the client - AFAIK only related to upgrades to W10...

If you've any o/s later than Vista, your WU client has been updated
automatically regardless of WU settings.

Yes, that's the first thing it does on a new install.

Regards,

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oO-( )-Oo Windows error 10 Reserved for future mistakes.

On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:22:30 -0400, . . .winston wrote:
Stan Brown wrote on 10/07/2015 6:24 AM:
[quoted text muted]
I'm taking bets on how long it will be till they change the Windows
Update client in 7 and 8 to stop letting you choose which updates to
install.

Not going to happen. A bet you're likely to lose.


I'll bet you would have said th same about retrofitting Windows 7
with Windows-10-style spyware. (Excuse me, "telemetry".)

Until it actually happened, of course.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...

On 08/10/2015 02:08, Stan Brown wrote:
Until it actually happened, of course.

People are not as stupid as you are so keep dreaming about what is next
coming in your email from Microsoft. Microsoft already knows enough
about you so it is too late for you to do anything now.

Stan Brown wrote on 10/07/2015 9:08 PM:
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:22:30 -0400, . . .winston wrote:
Stan Brown wrote on 10/07/2015 6:24 AM:
[quoted text muted]
I'm taking bets on how long it will be till they change the Windows
Update client in 7 and 8 to stop letting you choose which updates to
install.

Not going to happen. A bet you're likely to lose.


I'll bet you would have said th same about retrofitting Windows 7
with Windows-10-style spyware. (Excuse me, "telemetry".)

Until it actually happened, of course.


That's a perception issue of an update not a change to the engine that
deployed an update.



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...winston
msft mvp windows experience

On 09/10/2015 01:27, Mandy Liefbowitz wrote:
Have you accidentally previously installed the KB3-- one?



People who have accidentally installed any of the wonderful updates from
Microsoft, can run a batch file with the following contents:

@echo off
wusa /uninstall /KB:3035583 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB:2952664 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB:2976978 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB:2977759 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB:3083710 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB:3083711 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart


Copy the above text in a text file and save it as "uninstall.bat".
Launch cmd prompt as Administrator and run that batch file and allow
about 5 minutes to uninstall any of the KBs it finds from this list.

That is all to it. No big deal and your machine will as quiet as
possible as if there are dead octogenarians in the room.

You need to restart the machine AFTER you have uninstalled these patches
(if any, of course)

Personally, I have all of them in my machine and I have no plans to
remove them. I have nothing to hide except that I have all Microsoft
and Adobe Applications licensed legitimately - most of them given to me
freely by Adobe and some free Microsoft Express editions and trial
versions. I attack butters here but this is a known fact not only to
Microsoft but to the nutters here as well.

Good Guy wrote on 10/08/2015 9:16 PM:
On 09/10/2015 01:27, Mandy Liefbowitz wrote:
Have you accidentally previously installed the KB3-- one?



People who have accidentally installed any of the wonderful updates from
Microsoft, can run a batch file with the following contents:

@echo off
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3035583 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2952664 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2976978 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2977759 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3083710 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3083711 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3022345 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3068708 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3080149 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3075249 /quiet /norestart


Copy the above text in a text file and save it as "uninstall.bat".
Launch cmd prompt as Administrator and run that batch file and allow
about 5 minutes to uninstall any of the KBs it finds from this list.


Not a good idea.

--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

Mandy Liefbowitz wrote on 10/09/2015 8:46 AM:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 00:59:21 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Good Guy wrote on 10/08/2015 9:16 PM:
On 09/10/2015 01:27, Mandy Liefbowitz wrote:
Have you accidentally previously installed the KB3-- one?



People who have accidentally installed any of the wonderful updates from
Microsoft, can run a batch file with the following contents:

@echo off
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3035583 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2952664 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2976978 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2977759 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3083710 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3083711 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3022345 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3068708 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3080149 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3075249 /quiet /norestart


Copy the above text in a text file and save it as "uninstall.bat".
Launch cmd prompt as Administrator and run that batch file and allow
about 5 minutes to uninstall any of the KBs it finds from this list.


Not a good idea.

Okay. Why not? Apart, I mean, from the idea coming from GeeGee, what
is wrong with it?
Batch files are easy and cool.
M.

It's a mismash of KB's where some are unique to 7 and others to 8x, some
replaced by later updates, others contain under-the-hood updates
supporting security updates to the Windows kernel, resolve sfc false
positives, event viewer decoding, etc.



--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

Mandy Liefbowitz wrote on 10/09/2015 7:46 PM:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 13:07:40 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Mandy Liefbowitz wrote on 10/09/2015 8:46 AM:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 00:59:21 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Good Guy wrote on 10/08/2015 9:16 PM:
On 09/10/2015 01:27, Mandy Liefbowitz wrote:
Have you accidentally previously installed the KB3-- one?



People who have accidentally installed any of the wonderful updates from
Microsoft, can run a batch file with the following contents:

@echo off
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3035583 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2952664 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2976978 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2977759 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3083710 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3083711 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3022345 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3068708 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3080149 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3075249 /quiet /norestart


Copy the above text in a text file and save it as "uninstall.bat".
Launch cmd prompt as Administrator and run that batch file and allow
about 5 minutes to uninstall any of the KBs it finds from this list.


Not a good idea.

Okay. Why not? Apart, I mean, from the idea coming from GeeGee, what
is wrong with it?
Batch files are easy and cool.
M.

It's a mismash of KB's where some are unique to 7 and others to 8x, some
replaced by later updates, others contain under-the-hood updates
supporting security updates to the Windows kernel, resolve sfc false
positives, event viewer decoding, etc.

Oh. Sorry. I wasn't paying attention to the actual *contents* of the
KBs. So you would say that the *idea* of the batchfile isn't
necessarily a bad thing, per se, it's just that it's running mixed
stuff?
Could it have "If OS=Win8 then do these KB's, elseif OS=Win7 do these
KBs ..." type loopies?

Thank you for explaining.
Special hugs for doing it nicely.
M.

Correct, it is not a bad thing. Though it makes more sense to 'clean it
up'. Remove the items that don't apply to the desired o/s and leave
others alone since they include patches for resolving or patching other
operating system components or known issues exclusive of Win10.

There may be a way to tweak the commands for o/s checking....the bat
file experts can fill in those blanks.

The only significant KB in preventing Win10 is 3035583.

--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

On 09/10/2015 18:07:40, . . .winston wrote:
Mandy Liefbowitz wrote on 10/09/2015 8:46 AM:
On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 00:59:21 -0400, ". . .winston"
wrote:

Good Guy wrote on 10/08/2015 9:16 PM:
On 09/10/2015 01:27, Mandy Liefbowitz wrote:
Have you accidentally previously installed the KB3-- one?


People who have accidentally installed any of the wonderful updates from
Microsoft, can run a batch file with the following contents:

@echo off
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3035583 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2952664 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2976978 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 2977759 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3083710 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /KB: 3083711 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3022345 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3068708 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3080149 /quiet /norestart
wusa /uninstall /kb: 3075249 /quiet /norestart

Copy the above text in a text file and save it as "uninstall.bat".
Launch cmd prompt as Administrator and run that batch file and allow
about 5 minutes to uninstall any of the KBs it finds from this list.

Not a good idea.

Okay. Why not? Apart, I mean, from the idea coming from GeeGee, what
is wrong with it?
Batch files are easy and cool.
M.

It's a mismash of KB's where some are unique to 7 and others to 8x, some
replaced by later updates, others contain under-the-hood updates supporting
security updates to the Windows kernel, resolve sfc false positives, event
viewer decoding, etc.

If you have installed some of these and then decide to uninstall them
it does not always undo the damage already done, i.e, you need to look
in
Administrative Tools then:
Computer Management/System Tools/Task Schedular/Task Scheduler
Library/Microsoft/Windows then check, especially in the Application
Experience and Customer Experience Improvement Program folders to see
what is still set to call home and disable the ones you don't want.

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mick