Windows 10 upgade

Ok, now I'm getting nag screens urging me to upgrade to Windows 10.

A Facebook friend reports:

So I bit the bullet and installed Windows 10 free upgrade on my
formerly Windows 7 Professional 64-bit laptop. Thoughts so far:

1) Why is my Toshiba Dynadock constantly disconnecting and
reconnecting in random fashion when plugged into the USB3.0 port (but
not the USB2.0)?
2) Some of the text on certain applications looks fuzzy sometimes..
like in Skype, or Acrobat. Unsure what this is about or how to make it
stop
3) Apparently it learns stuff about you via the microphones etc..
kinda creepy
4) The interface is quite nice. I do like that part of it.

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Anyone else tried it?

What's good, what's bad?

Is it worth it?


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Steve Hayes wrote:
Ok, now I'm getting nag screens urging me to upgrade to Windows 10.

A Facebook friend reports:

So I bit the bullet and installed Windows 10 free upgrade on my
formerly Windows 7 Professional 64-bit laptop. Thoughts so far:

1) Why is my Toshiba Dynadock constantly disconnecting and
reconnecting in random fashion when plugged into the USB3.0 port (but
not the USB2.0)?
2) Some of the text on certain applications looks fuzzy sometimes..
like in Skype, or Acrobat. Unsure what this is about or how to make it
stop
3) Apparently it learns stuff about you via the microphones etc..
kinda creepy
4) The interface is quite nice. I do like that part of it.

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Anyone else tried it?

What's good, what's bad?

Is it worth it?

You could try the question here, as more of the
users here would have tried it.

alt.comp.os.windows-10

I use the Windows 10 Insider version, because it
was free. Just to see what all the fuss is about.
You didn't have to sacrifice a license key to
have a look at it. Even the Preview versions
would have been good enough for a look.

And it doesn't have any feature I would call
"essential". I don't use the Cloud. I don't
have a Groove Music subscription (apparently
they've fixed the player so that it continues
to emit sound when iconified). And I like the
version of Solitaire on WinXP, because it
concentrates on getting the job done. I don't
need an ad supported version from the Windows Store.

One thing a Windows 7 user loses, is there is
no Media Center for recording from TV tuners,
in Windows 10.

HTH,
Paul

Steve Hayes wrote:
Ok, now I'm getting nag screens urging me to upgrade to Windows 10.

A Facebook friend reports:

So I bit the bullet and installed Windows 10 free upgrade on my
formerly Windows 7 Professional 64-bit laptop. Thoughts so far:

1) Why is my Toshiba Dynadock constantly disconnecting and
reconnecting in random fashion when plugged into the USB3.0 port (but
not the USB2.0)?
2) Some of the text on certain applications looks fuzzy sometimes..
like in Skype, or Acrobat. Unsure what this is about or how to make it
stop
3) Apparently it learns stuff about you via the microphones etc..
kinda creepy
4) The interface is quite nice. I do like that part of it.

------------------

Anyone else tried it?

What's good, what's bad?

Is it worth it?

And it just occurred to me, there is a way you can
test it, without burning a license.

1) Install VirtualBox from Oracle/Sun.
(You want a very recent edition, possible still beta,
to get Win10 support... I think that's what I used.)
2) Enable Experiment 3D DirectX support
on a new virtual machine definition.
3) Install using a MediaCreationTool copy
of Win10 10240.
4) Add the VirtualBox Guest Additions from the menu.

And if that sounds like too much work, you can get a
Win10 VM appliance from here. (I added a Win10 VM
from here, to my Win8.1 VirtualBox setup.) Select
"MSEdge on Win10" to get a Win10 VM.

https://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/windows/

Because those aren't activated, they run for
a limited time, which is fine for a quick evaluation
of whether you like the stuff or not.

Maybe I should run a particular benchmark, to tell
you what I really think of the stuff :-) I've noticed
some anomalous file I/O that needs highlighting.

Paul

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 02:46:44 -0400, Paul wrote:

Steve Hayes wrote:
Anyone else tried it?

What's good, what's bad?

Is it worth it?

You could try the question here, as more of the
users here would have tried it.

alt.comp.os.windows-10

Well I might go there if I actually do have it on my computer and
start using it.

At the moment I'm just getting these pop-ups nagging me to "upgrade",
so I'm assuming that other Windows 7 users have also been getting
them, and that some may actually have done so.

So I'm just wondering if anyone has any "this used to work but doesn't
any more" stories.


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Paul wrote:

One thing a Windows 7 user loses, is there is no Media Center for
recording from TV tuners, in Windows 10.

Along with no end-user control over Windows updates.

Steve Hayes wrote:

Ok, now I'm getting nag screens urging me to upgrade to Windows 10.

I'm sure you know which "updates" (Get Win10 app, bogus update client
updates, telemetry [spying] updates) to get rid of the nags.

Anyone else tried it?

Yep. A whole newsgroup exists for that user community. Go lurk in the
alt.comp.os.windows-10 newsgroup to see how users have reacted to it.

What's good,
It's new.
what's bad?
It's new.

Is it worth it?

How do you measure worth on something that is free? Didn't cost you
anything. Well, it does, like your sanity and a learning curve and
various nasty annoyances - but, gee, who measures those in "worth"? ;-

Finding free money on the ground is worth collecting it. Getting AIDS
for free is not worth the fun you had.

On 10/15/2015 02:13 AM, Paul wrote:
Steve Hayes wrote:
Ok, now I'm getting nag screens urging me to upgrade to Windows 10.

A Facebook friend reports:

So I bit the bullet and installed Windows 10 free upgrade on my
formerly Windows 7 Professional 64-bit laptop. Thoughts so far:

1) Why is my Toshiba Dynadock constantly disconnecting and
reconnecting in random fashion when plugged into the USB3.0 port (but
not the USB2.0)?
2) Some of the text on certain applications looks fuzzy sometimes..
like in Skype, or Acrobat. Unsure what this is about or how to make it
stop
3) Apparently it learns stuff about you via the microphones etc..
kinda creepy
4) The interface is quite nice. I do like that part of it.

------------------

Anyone else tried it?

What's good, what's bad?

Is it worth it?

And it just occurred to me, there is a way you can
test it, without burning a license.

1) Install VirtualBox from Oracle/Sun.
(You want a very recent edition, possible still beta,
to get Win10 support... I think that's what I used.)
2) Enable Experiment 3D DirectX support
on a new virtual machine definition.
3) Install using a MediaCreationTool copy
of Win10 10240.
4) Add the VirtualBox Guest Additions from the menu.

And if that sounds like too much work, you can get a
Win10 VM appliance from here. (I added a Win10 VM
from here, to my Win8.1 VirtualBox setup.) Select
"MSEdge on Win10" to get a Win10 VM.

https://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/windows/

Because those aren't activated, they run for
a limited time, which is fine for a quick evaluation
of whether you like the stuff or not.

Maybe I should run a particular benchmark, to tell
you what I really think of the stuff :-) I've noticed
some anomalous file I/O that needs highlighting.

Paul




I'm also part of the Insider program simply because I'm curious.


I have one install on real hardware and one in a virtual machine.


Though the virtual installation is good enough to at least get an idea
of what Win10 is, it really does not work terribly well.

Steve Hayes wrote on 10/15/2015 1:38 AM:
Ok, now I'm getting nag screens urging me to upgrade to Windows 10.

A Facebook friend reports:

So I bit the bullet and installed Windows 10 free upgrade on my
formerly Windows 7 Professional 64-bit laptop. Thoughts so far:

1) Why is my Toshiba Dynadock constantly disconnecting and
reconnecting in random fashion when plugged into the USB3.0 port (but
not the USB2.0)?
2) Some of the text on certain applications looks fuzzy sometimes..
like in Skype, or Acrobat. Unsure what this is about or how to make it
stop
3) Apparently it learns stuff about you via the microphones etc..
kinda creepy
4) The interface is quite nice. I do like that part of it.

------------------

Anyone else tried it?

What's good, what's bad?

Is it worth it?


It's a new OS and some hardware might not be supported. This is to be expected. It's been like this all along. I
have a slide scanner that stopped working after XP, so I keep a dual boot of XP on my Win 10 machine.

Yes millions of people have tried it.
My opinion: The good, it seems to run a bit better on my older hardware. I can see some things like cortana that
might be nice but for privacy.
The bad, there is a large learning curve. And to quiet down some of the snooping you have to turn off things. There
are a lot of articles on the net (How-to-Geek does some) showing what to do to minimize the data sent to MS.

I bit the bullet on the learning curve when I upgraded to win8. It's so much like win10 that the learning curve there
was next to nothing.

I personally like 8.1 a lot, almost more than 10. But how it works for you is really a personal thing. What I do, you
may not and visa versa.

As for the hardware/video issues, I'd look at the manufacturers page and see if they have updated drivers for the card.
That and or look at the settings on the card (sofware wise) to see if MS set something wrong, like refresh rate etc.
If the card worked before then obviously it's the drivers now.

As suggested a virtual machine test is a great way to test. That or shrink your current OS about 30 gig+ and load it
there and dual boot. Course a virtual machine does not test hardware, dual boot does.