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Old May 17th 18, 01:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Wed, 16 May 2018 00:53:49 +0100, ken1943 wrote:


Win 10 'upgrade' does it again

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...me-intel-ssds/


Why would you use an Intel SSD?

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Old May 17th 18, 01:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2018 00:53:49 +0100, ken1943 wrote:


Win 10 'upgrade' does it again

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...me-intel-ssds/


Why would you use an Intel SSD?


To block an Upgrade.

Paul
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Old May 17th 18, 02:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Jimmy Wilkinson Knife
wrote:

Win 10 'upgrade' does it again

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...ws-10-april-20
18-update-to-some-intel-ssds/


Why would you use an Intel SSD?


because they're one of the most reliable ssds.
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Old May 17th 18, 01:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 01:55:32 +0100, Paul wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2018 00:53:49 +0100, ken1943 wrote:


Win 10 'upgrade' does it again

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018...me-intel-ssds/


Why would you use an Intel SSD?


To block an Upgrade.


I can do that by tuning off the updates service, if I was that stupid. But I prefer to get the latest version of everything.

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Old May 17th 18, 06:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In the old days Linux was very unfriendly. One had to be very
knowledgeable to use Linux.
Nowadays Linux has grown up. There are a lot of varieties, most of them
very user friendly, and fully equipped with all the things an average
user would need. For the specialists there are scientific releases and
music studio releases. There is even a Windows look-a-like.
I got VMWare full if Linuxes, and I like them. I a still far future I
might say farewell to Windows and mover over to a Linux.


The mere fact that there is more than one version rings alarm bells.


Why? There are currently people using half a dozen Windows versions.
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Old May 17th 18, 06:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:03:21 +0100, ray carter wrote:

In the old days Linux was very unfriendly. One had to be very
knowledgeable to use Linux.
Nowadays Linux has grown up. There are a lot of varieties, most of them
very user friendly, and fully equipped with all the things an average
user would need. For the specialists there are scientific releases and
music studio releases. There is even a Windows look-a-like.
I got VMWare full if Linuxes, and I like them. I a still far future I
might say farewell to Windows and mover over to a Linux.


The mere fact that there is more than one version rings alarm bells.


Why? There are currently people using half a dozen Windows versions.


No, those are revisions of the same thing. All compatible with each other. Linux has completely different branches. I've seen programs that only run on some of those.

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Old May 17th 18, 07:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 17/05/2018 19:06, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:03:21 +0100, ray carter wrote:

In the old days Linux was very unfriendly. One had to be very
knowledgeable to use Linux.
Nowadays Linux has grown up. There are a lot of varieties, most of them
very user friendly, and fully equipped with all the things an average
user would need. For the specialists there are scientific releases and
music studio releases. There is even a Windows look-a-like.
I got VMWare full if Linuxes, and I like them. I a still far future I
might say farewell to Windows and mover over to a Linux.

The mere fact that there is more than one version rings alarm bells.


Why? There are currently people using half a dozen Windows versions.


No, those are revisions of the same thing. All compatible with each
other. Linux has completely different branches. I've seen programs
that only run on some of those.


And I have seen many programs that don't run on all Windows versions.
And are all Windows versions compatible with eachother? No.

Don't make me laugh!

Fokke
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Old May 17th 18, 07:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 19:06:24 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

On 17/05/2018 19:06, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:03:21 +0100, ray carter wrote:

In the old days Linux was very unfriendly. One had to be very
knowledgeable to use Linux.
Nowadays Linux has grown up. There are a lot of varieties, most of them
very user friendly, and fully equipped with all the things an average
user would need. For the specialists there are scientific releases and
music studio releases. There is even a Windows look-a-like.
I got VMWare full if Linuxes, and I like them. I a still far future I
might say farewell to Windows and mover over to a Linux.

The mere fact that there is more than one version rings alarm bells.

Why? There are currently people using half a dozen Windows versions.


No, those are revisions of the same thing. All compatible with each
other. Linux has completely different branches. I've seen programs
that only run on some of those.


And I have seen many programs that don't run on all Windows versions.
And are all Windows versions compatible with eachother? No.

Don't make me laugh!


I've yet to see a single program that doesn't run on any Windows.

But I see many that don't even have a Linux version at all.

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Old May 17th 18, 09:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:03:21 +0100, ray carter wrote:

In the old days Linux was very unfriendly. One had to be very
knowledgeable to use Linux.
Nowadays Linux has grown up. There are a lot of varieties, most of them
very user friendly, and fully equipped with all the things an average
user would need. For the specialists there are scientific releases and
music studio releases. There is even a Windows look-a-like.
I got VMWare full if Linuxes, and I like them. I a still far future I
might say farewell to Windows and mover over to a Linux.

The mere fact that there is more than one version rings alarm bells.


Why? There are currently people using half a dozen Windows versions.


No, those are revisions of the same thing. All compatible with each other.


Cool. I have some windows 95 executables I'd like to run....

Linux has completely different branches. I've seen programs that only
run on some of those.


All Linux distributions are inter-compatible. You may have a package which
will only work with certain package managers, but the source will work on
all.

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Old May 17th 18, 09:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 21:21:39 +0100, Chris wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:03:21 +0100, ray carter wrote:

In the old days Linux was very unfriendly. One had to be very
knowledgeable to use Linux.
Nowadays Linux has grown up. There are a lot of varieties, most of them
very user friendly, and fully equipped with all the things an average
user would need. For the specialists there are scientific releases and
music studio releases. There is even a Windows look-a-like.
I got VMWare full if Linuxes, and I like them. I a still far future I
might say farewell to Windows and mover over to a Linux.

The mere fact that there is more than one version rings alarm bells.

Why? There are currently people using half a dozen Windows versions.


No, those are revisions of the same thing. All compatible with each other.


Cool. I have some windows 95 executables I'd like to run....


That's going back a bit, and I've never had a problem with some rather old programs anyway. Obviously I'm not talking about ones that do low level disk access....

Linux has completely different branches. I've seen programs that only
run on some of those.


All Linux distributions are inter-compatible. You may have a package which
will only work with certain package managers, but the source will work on
all.


Is the source always available? Is everyone capable of recompiling by themselves?

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Old May 17th 18, 11:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:06:50 +0100, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:03:21 +0100, ray carter wrote:

In the old days Linux was very unfriendly. One had to be very
knowledgeable to use Linux.
Nowadays Linux has grown up. There are a lot of varieties, most of
them very user friendly, and fully equipped with all the things an
average user would need. For the specialists there are scientific
releases and music studio releases. There is even a Windows
look-a-like.
I got VMWare full if Linuxes, and I like them. I a still far future I
might say farewell to Windows and mover over to a Linux.

The mere fact that there is more than one version rings alarm bells.


Why? There are currently people using half a dozen Windows versions.


No, those are revisions of the same thing. All compatible with each
other. Linux has completely different branches. I've seen programs
that only run on some of those.


Seems we should define our terms. My fram of reference it that win10 is a
version, win8 is a version, win7 is a version, winxp is a version. Debian
Linux is a distribution, ubuntu is a distribution, mint is a
distribution, redhat is a destribution.

For example with Debian - each couple of years a new version comes out
and is incredibly simple to upgrade (in place) to the new version.

And to top it off - Linux is (technically) the kernel which is updated
from time to time. Some distributions upgrade to the new kernel when it
is released - others maintain an older one until the distribution issues
a new versio.

And, to top it all off, (technically) Android is linux since it runs the
linux kernel.
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Old May 17th 18, 11:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 17 May 2018 23:19:24 +0100, ray carter wrote:

On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:06:50 +0100, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:

On Thu, 17 May 2018 18:03:21 +0100, ray carter wrote:

In the old days Linux was very unfriendly. One had to be very
knowledgeable to use Linux.
Nowadays Linux has grown up. There are a lot of varieties, most of
them very user friendly, and fully equipped with all the things an
average user would need. For the specialists there are scientific
releases and music studio releases. There is even a Windows
look-a-like.
I got VMWare full if Linuxes, and I like them. I a still far future I
might say farewell to Windows and mover over to a Linux.

The mere fact that there is more than one version rings alarm bells..

Why? There are currently people using half a dozen Windows versions.


No, those are revisions of the same thing. All compatible with each
other. Linux has completely different branches. I've seen programs
that only run on some of those.


Seems we should define our terms. My fram of reference it that win10 is a
version, win8 is a version, win7 is a version, winxp is a version. Debian
Linux is a distribution, ubuntu is a distribution, mint is a
distribution, redhat is a destribution.

For example with Debian - each couple of years a new version comes out
and is incredibly simple to upgrade (in place) to the new version.

And to top it off - Linux is (technically) the kernel which is updated
from time to time. Some distributions upgrade to the new kernel when it
is released - others maintain an older one until the distribution issues
a new versio.

And, to top it all off, (technically) Android is linux since it runs the
linux kernel.


Way too complicated. Admittedly I might have accepted Linux as well as I accept Windows. But I chose Windows because it was most popular - more people to ask for help, more software made for it etc. Since I've made that decision, I see no point in halving my time and only learning half as much about each OS. Concentrating on one means I know more about it. The only reason I can think of to change from Windows to Linux is it's free. But then 90% of a computer's price is the hardware anyway. I just built a new (medium spec) computer for 900. Only 85 of that was Windows.

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Old May 17th 18, 11:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , ray carter
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And, to top it all off, (technically) Android is linux since it runs the
linux kernel.


and that's where it ends.

android apps are not linux apps. they are written using android apis,
not linux apis.
 




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