Where's the title in Chrome?

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

VanguardLH WROTE:

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

VanguardLH WROTE:


https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...di+web+browser

Thanks, but if _you_ consider it a work-in-progress, I probably would
too. (And I bet it doesn't show the title bar!)

Actually some users familiar with other web browsers complained that the
display of the title bar in Vivaldi was a waste of space. Example:

https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/7105/hide-title-bar

Looks like Vivaldi has a title bar but they default to turned off so
there is less chrome and more space for the document. I have yet to
trial Vivaldi but suspect I'll like it as long as it isn't too glitzy.
I like features but don't really care about eye candy. When I get the
time and inclination, I'll play with Vivaldi to see what it's like.
Just because I choose not to play with it now doesn't mean you also
shouldn't. You're not going to get what you want in Google Chrome (even
with extensions).

You'll need to find a different Chromium variant with all the
features you demand (if using extensions as workarounds is not
something you will tolerate).

I'd tolerate - by this stage, even welcome - one that gave me the
standard Windows title bar back.

Looks like Vivaldi has a title bar (that you can enable). Opera has
one, too (but it's in a different skin or theme). Both are Chromium
variants (if what you want as a secondary web browser is one that uses a
different rendering engine than for your primary web browser).

Tabs Outliner opens its own window to show its tree which stays there
as you surf and as you alter your tab count. In fact, from the
following Youtube video, it looks like a separate window is used to
display the tree of tabs for Tabs Outliner....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqjcrfKjobY

I've now viewed the video (well, the first two minutes anyway), though
from your description of "its own window" I'd expected what I saw. It is
as you say a title bar on mega steroids - but I don't want another
(quite large!) window opening that shows the title of every tab I have
open, I just want to see the title of the one I'm looking at! I'd say
"is that too much to ask", but clearly it is.

This porridge is too hot.
This porridge is too cold.
This porridge is just right.

Too much. Too little. Looking for just right but it's not there. Time
to visit a different cottage.

If Google Chrome had exactly the same feature set as Firefox then there
would be no Google Chrome because there would be no difference. If
Opera had the same feature set as Google Chrome, there would be no
Opera. The same for Vivaldi. It's like car shopping: lots of choices
because consumers want differences.

Well, I see it as they chose to _remove_ a standard Windows feature,

Titlebars are not standard. The developer decides what elements to
include in the chrome of their app's window. And that isn't just for
web browsers. Plus the titlebar is often merely to reflect the program
owning the window. If their are tabs, it would requires the developer
to change the titlebar's string each time a different tab got focus.
I've seen programs that tabbed but nothing changes in the titlebar: it's
just the name of the program.

The titlebar is a standard window element but that doesn't mean it must
be added to the chrome of an app's window or, if left by default, that
it have an attibute of visible. I don't know if *NIX or other OSes, by
default, have the same set of standard window elements as windows. When
coding for cross-platform, multiple code branches can be used to
separate a product's code across different OSes but that's a hassle to
keep synchronized.

Sorry, but when not using the standard windowing API to create window
objects, I can't see that they removed anything. Instead, and because
they use their own windowing code, they choose not to *add* a feature.
Google is *very* slow at improving the feature set of Chrome. Users
have clamored for a decade about the lack of a "New tab to front" user
configurable option. Still hasn't happened.

There is the Chromium project (started after Google released the
open-sourced part of their web browser). And there is Google Chrome.
Google adds their own proprietary closed-source code to Chromium to make
their Chrome product. It's really back to the Chromium developers why
they don't add a tabs-to-front or titlebar option, and Google hasn't
decided to stomp on how Chromium defines the chrome for that web
browser. I remember seeing (but cannot find it now) where the Chromium
Project defined the standards for what window elements would be in their
product. When I checked, there was nothing there about a titlebar.

https://www.howtogeek.com/202825/wha...um-and-chrome/

You could compile the open-source Chromium code to add code for a
titlebar. That's how all the variants showed up: they wanted a
different feature set than what Chromium offers. They wanted to
differentiate themselves from the base product. Not everyone wants to
drive the same car.

In message , VanguardLH
writes:
[]
This porridge is too hot.
This porridge is too cold.
This porridge is just right.

Too much. Too little. Looking for just right but it's not there. Time
to visit a different cottage.
Nice analogy.
[]
You could compile the open-source Chromium code to add code for a
titlebar. That's how all the variants showed up: they wanted a
different feature set than what Chromium offers. They wanted to
differentiate themselves from the base product. Not everyone wants to
drive the same car.
And not everyone wants to build a car either (-:.
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a large scale justlike microsoft



On 3/24/2018 8:01 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) scribbled:
In message , Monty
writes:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 02:06:01 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In my (old) Firefox, the title of a webpage, if it has one, is shown, in
the title bar of the browser window.

In Chrome (if it makes any difference, I have "Version 64.0.3282.167
(Official Build) (32-bit)"), the browser window doesn't _have_ a title
bar (and I can see no way to re-enable one) - and, I can't see a page's
title.

Is there a setting to make it visible?

A search for "chrome title bar missing" offered
https://www.wikihow.com/Get-Hidden-B...-Toolbars-Back


HTH,

NID, I'm afraid.

It says:
5. Since Chrome uses extensions to add toolbars, you'll be able to
enable any non-working toolbars from here.
6. Find your toolbar. Scroll down to the toolbar that you want to use
with Chrome.
o If you can't find the toolbar, you may first have to reinstall the
extension.
7. Enable the toolbar. Check the "Enabled" box to the right of the
toolbar extension
9. Run a virus scan. If your toolbars still won't work properly, you may
have a virus

(No even hint of _what_ extension.)

Actually, I've just noticed it is headed "How to Get Hidden Browser
Toolbars Back": I'm talking about the title bar, a standard Windows
function, not toolbars within Chrome.

But I think the next post looks more promising.