A strange thing happened with the latest Win10 update

Microsoft laid another update for Win10 1709 on us last week. I try to wait
a week or so to see what went wrong (there's always something). But Monday
I had to reboot for a different reason so the update got applied.
Everything seemed to go ok until I went to use Windows again. My mouse
stopped working. I have a Logitech M750 wireless trackball mouse that I
consider to be almost perfect. Nothing. Nada. The system still saw the
wireless dongle, but no mouse activity. I figured out the basic keyboard
moves to let me read my email, but that was about it. So I picked up a
plain vanilla $7 three button mouse to use while I got the M750
fixed/replaced. Ugh!
Today I decided to try to troubleshoot a little before contacting Logitech.
As part of that, I reloaded the Logitech driver. Wonderbah! Everything
worked! All I can think of is that something in the update fubarred the
driver to the point that it wouldn't work. That's not really surprising
since all of the problems with this update seemed to affect USB things. I
swear, if I wasn't so embedded into the Windows environment, I would be
switching to Linux. I am going to test drive it again. I may switch anyway.

On 4/27/2018 3:59 AM, Tim wrote:
Microsoft laid another update for Win10 1709 on us last week. I try to wait
a week or so to see what went wrong (there's always something). But Monday
I had to reboot for a different reason so the update got applied.
Everything seemed to go ok until I went to use Windows again. My mouse
stopped working. I have a Logitech M750 wireless trackball mouse that I
consider to be almost perfect. Nothing. Nada. The system still saw the
wireless dongle, but no mouse activity. I figured out the basic keyboard
moves to let me read my email, but that was about it. So I picked up a
plain vanilla $7 three button mouse to use while I got the M750
fixed/replaced. Ugh!
Today I decided to try to troubleshoot a little before contacting Logitech.
As part of that, I reloaded the Logitech driver. Wonderbah! Everything
worked! All I can think of is that something in the update fubarred the
driver to the point that it wouldn't work. That's not really surprising
since all of the problems with this update seemed to affect USB things. I
swear, if I wasn't so embedded into the Windows environment, I would be
switching to Linux. I am going to test drive it again. I may switch anyway.

None of the updates have affected any of my Logitech mice or any USB
functions, so those particular problems appears to be yours. However, if
what you need to do can be accomplished on some other OS, why not switch?

--
best regards,

Neil

Tim wrote:
Microsoft laid another update for Win10 1709 on us last week. I try to wait
a week or so to see what went wrong (there's always something). But Monday
I had to reboot for a different reason so the update got applied.
Everything seemed to go ok until I went to use Windows again. My mouse
stopped working. I have a Logitech M750 wireless trackball mouse that I
consider to be almost perfect. Nothing. Nada. The system still saw the
wireless dongle, but no mouse activity. I figured out the basic keyboard
moves to let me read my email, but that was about it. So I picked up a
plain vanilla $7 three button mouse to use while I got the M750
fixed/replaced. Ugh!
Today I decided to try to troubleshoot a little before contacting Logitech.
As part of that, I reloaded the Logitech driver. Wonderbah! Everything
worked! All I can think of is that something in the update fubarred the
driver to the point that it wouldn't work. That's not really surprising
since all of the problems with this update seemed to affect USB things. I
swear, if I wasn't so embedded into the Windows environment, I would be
switching to Linux. I am going to test drive it again. I may switch anyway.

During the OS Upgrade to 1709, it will be reinstalling
your 77MB copy of SetPoint. That's part of what the migration
logic does - C:\Windows becomes C:\Windows.old and the OS
installation process "reinstalls" stuff.

Certain migrations aren't always done properly. For example, the
RAMDisk on my Win10 setup usually gets "borked" and I have to
do a quick "Repair Install" from Programs and Features to bring
it back to life.

Since the software in question is Logitech, and it's 77MB
in size (for the purpose of making the two arrow buttons
on the left, work on your trackball), what happened isn't
particularly a surprise. That's a huge piece of software.

You could remove SetPoint, before the 1804 Upgrade comes in,
and see how an Upgrade install works with vanilla HID drivers
(the Microsoft in-box drivers).

Paul

On 27/4/2018 3:59 PM, Tim wrote:
Today I decided to try to troubleshoot a little before contacting Logitech.
As part of that, I reloaded the Logitech driver. Wonderbah! Everything
worked! All I can think of is that something in the update fubarred the
driver to the point that it wouldn't work. That's not really surprising
since all of the problems with this update seemed to affect USB things. I
swear, if I wasn't so embedded into the Windows environment, I would be
switching to Linux. I am going to test drive it again. I may switch anyway.

That's why people want the option to disable automatic update!! Do you
wanna work overtime because of a bad update from Micro$oft? Well... US
Government doesn't give a dime about this!

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 07:59:42 GMT, Tim wrote:

Microsoft laid another update for Win10 1709 on us last week. I try to wait
a week or so to see what went wrong (there's always something). But Monday
I had to reboot for a different reason so the update got applied.
Everything seemed to go ok until I went to use Windows again. My mouse
stopped working. I have a Logitech M750 wireless trackball mouse that I
consider to be almost perfect. Nothing. Nada. The system still saw the
wireless dongle, but no mouse activity. I figured out the basic keyboard
moves to let me read my email, but that was about it. So I picked up a
plain vanilla $7 three button mouse to use while I got the M750
fixed/replaced. Ugh!
Today I decided to try to troubleshoot a little before contacting Logitech.
As part of that, I reloaded the Logitech driver. Wonderbah! Everything
worked! All I can think of is that something in the update fubarred the
driver to the point that it wouldn't work. That's not really surprising
since all of the problems with this update seemed to affect USB things. I
swear, if I wasn't so embedded into the Windows environment, I would be
switching to Linux. I am going to test drive it again. I may switch anyway.

Their updates seem to be getting worse all the time.

As some people here know, I re-installed Windows 10 the other day
because I _believed_ that a driver issue caused my computer to behave
as if the motherboard died. It turned out that Bitlocker was the
issue. However, on the latest installation, after disabling Bitlocker
and updating the driver properly to remedy the issue, Windows decided
that my installation was no longer activated and refused to activate.
It also refused to allow me to install Windows Store apps. None of
this idiocy is necessarily the fault of an update, but I've been using
Bitlocker for months and updating a graphics driver with it enabled
only recently became an issue; it was always possible before.

a.m wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 07:59:42 GMT, Tim wrote:

Microsoft laid another update for Win10 1709 on us last week. I try to wait
a week or so to see what went wrong (there's always something). But Monday
I had to reboot for a different reason so the update got applied.
Everything seemed to go ok until I went to use Windows again. My mouse
stopped working. I have a Logitech M750 wireless trackball mouse that I
consider to be almost perfect. Nothing. Nada. The system still saw the
wireless dongle, but no mouse activity. I figured out the basic keyboard
moves to let me read my email, but that was about it. So I picked up a
plain vanilla $7 three button mouse to use while I got the M750
fixed/replaced. Ugh!
Today I decided to try to troubleshoot a little before contacting Logitech.
As part of that, I reloaded the Logitech driver. Wonderbah! Everything
worked! All I can think of is that something in the update fubarred the
driver to the point that it wouldn't work. That's not really surprising
since all of the problems with this update seemed to affect USB things. I
swear, if I wasn't so embedded into the Windows environment, I would be
switching to Linux. I am going to test drive it again. I may switch anyway.

Their updates seem to be getting worse all the time.

As some people here know, I re-installed Windows 10 the other day
because I _believed_ that a driver issue caused my computer to behave
as if the motherboard died. It turned out that Bitlocker was the
issue. However, on the latest installation, after disabling Bitlocker
and updating the driver properly to remedy the issue, Windows decided
that my installation was no longer activated and refused to activate.
It also refused to allow me to install Windows Store apps. None of
this idiocy is necessarily the fault of an update, but I've been using
Bitlocker for months and updating a graphics driver with it enabled
only recently became an issue; it was always possible before.

There's something in the Settings panel.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ivation-errors

On the older OSes, you might try Googling on "slui 3" and "slui 4".
"slui 4" is phone activation.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/fix-wi...ailed-activate

Tech Support for activation issues is supposed to be free.

Some activation issues are caused by server overload, but
"waiting" for stuff to fix itself, is hardly a good approach
to a fast resolution.

Paul

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:41:50 -0400, Paul
wrote:

a.m wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 07:59:42 GMT, Tim wrote:

Microsoft laid another update for Win10 1709 on us last week. I try to wait
a week or so to see what went wrong (there's always something). But Monday
I had to reboot for a different reason so the update got applied.
Everything seemed to go ok until I went to use Windows again. My mouse
stopped working. I have a Logitech M750 wireless trackball mouse that I
consider to be almost perfect. Nothing. Nada. The system still saw the
wireless dongle, but no mouse activity. I figured out the basic keyboard
moves to let me read my email, but that was about it. So I picked up a
plain vanilla $7 three button mouse to use while I got the M750
fixed/replaced. Ugh!
Today I decided to try to troubleshoot a little before contacting Logitech.
As part of that, I reloaded the Logitech driver. Wonderbah! Everything
worked! All I can think of is that something in the update fubarred the
driver to the point that it wouldn't work. That's not really surprising
since all of the problems with this update seemed to affect USB things. I
swear, if I wasn't so embedded into the Windows environment, I would be
switching to Linux. I am going to test drive it again. I may switch anyway.

Their updates seem to be getting worse all the time.

As some people here know, I re-installed Windows 10 the other day
because I _believed_ that a driver issue caused my computer to behave
as if the motherboard died. It turned out that Bitlocker was the
issue. However, on the latest installation, after disabling Bitlocker
and updating the driver properly to remedy the issue, Windows decided
that my installation was no longer activated and refused to activate.
It also refused to allow me to install Windows Store apps. None of
this idiocy is necessarily the fault of an update, but I've been using
Bitlocker for months and updating a graphics driver with it enabled
only recently became an issue; it was always possible before.

There's something in the Settings panel.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ivation-errors

On the older OSes, you might try Googling on "slui 3" and "slui 4".
"slui 4" is phone activation.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/fix-wi...ailed-activate

Tech Support for activation issues is supposed to be free.

Some activation issues are caused by server overload, but
"waiting" for stuff to fix itself, is hardly a good approach
to a fast resolution.

slui.exe would work but slui.exe 4 refused to load. I think decrypting
the Bitlocked drives corrupted something even though they suddenly
allowed me to install the graphics driver with no issue. To say the
least, I'm not bothering with Bitlocker on anything other than
external drives anymore and I'm not even installing the Pro edition
either.