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Old April 27th 18, 12:21 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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I scanned several pages from my AIO printer to my W10 PC. Now I want
to place page numbers on the bottom of the pages in that pdf doc. How
do you do it? I sure can't. Shud be simple(?)
Thanks
Al
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Old April 27th 18, 01:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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|I scanned several pages from my AIO printer to my W10 PC. Now I want
| to place page numbers on the bottom of the pages in that pdf doc. How
| do you do it? I sure can't. Shud be simple(?)

Scanned pages? PDF? DOC? If you mean that
you ended up with a PDF, get PDF XChange Viewer,
free version. It lets you add text notes and save
them. Very easy.

Version 2.5 can be got he

https://www.neowin.net/news/pdf-xcha...-25-build-2142

I have v. 2.5, build 214, from 2014. This one is 2018.
The two seem to be basically the same.

I think I remember newer free versions being more
limited, but I'm not sure. So if you have problems with
a newer version, look for older.

Text options are under Tools - Comment and Markup
tools.

Also, while PDFXV free won't let you start a PDF or
add a page, you can extract the page as an image,
edit it in a graphic editor, then replace it by pasting
that image.


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Old April 27th 18, 03:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Mayayana wrote:

Turing wrote

I scanned several pages from my AIO printer to my W10 PC. Now I want
to place page numbers on the bottom of the pages in that pdf doc.
How do you do it? I sure can't. Shud be simple(?)


Scanned pages? PDF? DOC? If you mean that you ended up with a PDF,
get PDF XChange Viewer, free version. It lets you add text notes and
save them. Very easy.


Easy but tiresome for lots of pages. Annotation allows adding comments
as an overlay to the PDF but the OP will have to annotate every page to
add a page number and hope he doesn't screw up the numbering.

Version 2.5 can be got he
https://www.neowin.net/news/pdf-xcha...-25-build-2142


Why go somewhere other than the software author's site if they have the
downloads?

https://www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads

PDF-Xchange Viewer was discontinued. It does still get some security
(vulnerability) updates, though. It was replaced with PDF-Xchange
Editor. There are portable versions of both so the OP could try without
installing to see if page-by-page annotation floats his boat.

There is no way to add page numbering *within* the PDF file except by
using a PDF editor (and not something named "Editor" that can annotate).
Separate annotations are not a numbering scheme. It just looks like
page numbering but would actually be separate comments. To add a page
number object on each page, you have to edit the PDF and know how to
edit it in what editor you choose.

Adobe Acrobat:
$300 for Standard, $450 for Professional (pricing at Newegg)

Adobe DC (PDF editor): 7-day free trial, $13/month (annual committment)
https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/acro...pdf-files.html
Says the trial is free but makes no mention if fully functional (and you
would have to determine if it can do page numbering), if the trial
version does NOT leave watermarks or restrict use of the PDF file (like
locking out copy-n-paste or printing)

PDFescape: free online editor, $3/month desktop app
https://www.pdfescape.com/
Says "editing" using their online app is free. Of course, that means
you have to upload your document to their site and trust them with its
contents. I don't know if it is just a GUI frontend to the server-side
PDF editor: if it uploads then there is the same privacy concern. There
are lots of other online PDF editors but I suspect they are very limited
in features (compared to Adobe Acrobat) or you have to pay to get more
features (which still may not get you automatic page numbering).

Inkscape: free
https://inkscape.org/en/
Similar to GIMP, Inkscape has a high learning curve. Its audience is
intended to be those already familiar with Adobe Acrobat. It is more of
a vector graphics editor but had PDF functions. It can import PDF; see:
https://inkscape.org/en/learn/faq/#w...e-importexport.

PDF-Xchange Editor: free for personal use, $44 for commercial use (or to
use its Pro feature set)
https://www.tracker-software.com/pro...xchange-editor
Their Viewer can add layers, like annotations, but you'll have to add
them to every page with a page number and do the numbering yourself.
Editor has some PDF functions but not all are free. You have to buy it
to get all PDF functionality (which is less than what Acrobat can do),
or if you use a non-free PDF function then your PDF document gets
watermarked. Because I only want Editor's free functionality, I use the
option to hide the Pro features (File - Preferences - Registration -
"Hide all licensed features from toolbars and menus").

When I went to the above URL for Editor, page numbering isn't explicitly
specified as a function included either as Free Features or in the
Licensed Features. The licensed version lists header and footer
manipulation and that is usually where the page numbering object is
found. I then found:

https://www.tracker-software.com/kno...page-numbering

That describes functions in the payware Editor version. From that
tutorial and looking at what tabs are available in the ribbon bar for
the free Editor version that I'm using (and with the option enabled to
hide the Pro/licensed features that cost money), I'm missing the Edit
and Document (under which is the header/footer option that can add page
numbering) tabs so I cannot add a page numbering object in a footer,
only add individual and disconnected annotations. Even when I disable
the "hide Pro" option, I still cannot find where I could add a footer
and define a page numbering object within it.

https://www.tracker-software.com/pdf...mparison-chart

"Re-number pages/files" is available in PDF-Xchange Editor using
header/footer objects (but looks to be only available in the $44 payware
version), PDF-Tools ($60), and PDF-Xchange Pro ($94), all of which are
cheaper than Adobe Acrobat.
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Old April 27th 18, 05:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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wrote:
I scanned several pages from my AIO printer to my W10 PC. Now I want
to place page numbers on the bottom of the pages in that pdf doc. How
do you do it? I sure can't. Shud be simple(?)
Thanks
Al


Scans in PDF format are pixmaps at heart.

Only if there is a post-processing OCR step, would a text
overlay be applied to the scans. You could lose this with
the steps I propose next.

These tools were formerly from "foolabs". It used to
consist of a reader (mainly for Linux at the time), and some
accessory tools for multiple platforms. In this case, you'd
want their tools kit.

http://www.xpdfreader.com/download.html

Download the Xpdf tools:

* Windows 32/64-bit

https://xpdfreader-dl.s3.amazonaws.c...s-win-4.00.zip

My copy from last year was 11,273,259 bytes.

The program "pdfimages.exe" promises to extract the scanned
image from each PDF page. And number the images. The reason
I selected this, is so the images would be in "native format".
The extraction process should not alter what was scanned,
in the sense of changing the resolution. So if you scanned
at 300DPI into an 8.5x11 document, the output image would be
around 2550x3300 or so. Plus or minus.

Once a PDF document is converted back to images, you can try your
hand with a free image editor (like GIMP, a replacement for
Photoshop), and add some text to each image. Or use a package
like netpbm to edit the files from the command line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netpbm

Tools such as IrfanView can also be used, or can be used
later to make PDF or make a document or whatever.

The only reason this solution makes any sense, is the information
is already in pixmap form. Degraded in a sense. You can't do
too much additional damage to what you have in hand, by
converting to actual pixmaps (.ppm or .jpg) and working
on the content you want to edit.

For "real" PDF documents with fonts and text and vector
representations, a "real" PDF editor makes the most sense.
Since this is a scanner output document, and Epson doesn't
provide OCR necessarily, there could be little in the file
besides one pixmap per page.

This isn't a very good solution, unless you're "good at scripting"
and can glue tools together to automate the whole process.
Irfanview is plenty powerful, but still requires setup,
and might not have a macrorecorder. My copy of Photoshop
though, has a macrorecorder, and you can do an amazing
amount of stuff automatically to a scanned set of images.
If your Epson had a Photoshop plugin, you could even scan
into Photoshop and add the page numbers with a recorded
macro while you work.

Paul
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Old April 27th 18, 12:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Paul" wrote

| These tools were formerly from "foolabs". It used to
| consist of a reader (mainly for Linux at the time), and some
| accessory tools for multiple platforms. In this case, you'd
| want their tools kit.
|
| http://www.xpdfreader.com/download.html
|

I described what I think is a simpler way to do the
same thing with PDF XChange Viewer:

Load the PDF

Use File - Export to Image to extract pages.

Edit them.

Put each image on the Clipboard and Paste back
to PXV.

I do exactly that with my MA state taxes. (We
have MIT and Harvard, yet the state experts can't
figure out how to make a fillable PDF form!)
I extract the pages as images, use the Text tool
in Paint Shop Pro to fill them out, then paste them
back in. It sounds like a lot of work, but aside from
some fiddling with character spacing it's actually
not a big job. Much easier than filling out multiples
by hand, and I end up with e-records.


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Old April 27th 18, 01:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Mayayana
wrote:


I described what I think is a simpler way to do the
same thing with PDF XChange Viewer:

Load the PDF

Use File - Export to Image to extract pages.

Edit them.

Put each image on the Clipboard and Paste back
to PXV.

I do exactly that with my MA state taxes. (We
have MIT and Harvard, yet the state experts can't
figure out how to make a fillable PDF form!)


government workers can't figure out a lot of things, other than how to
stay in office for as long as possible.

I extract the pages as images, use the Text tool
in Paint Shop Pro to fill them out, then paste them
back in. It sounds like a lot of work, but aside from
some fiddling with character spacing it's actually
not a big job. Much easier than filling out multiples
by hand, and I end up with e-records.


it is a lot of work.
much easier to use an app that lets you add text notations.
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Old April 27th 18, 03:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 4/27/2018 7:43 AM, Mayayana wrote:
I do exactly that with my MA state taxes. (We
have MIT and Harvard, yet the state experts can't
figure out how to make a fillable PDF form!)

Slight change in topic

I have found that any PDF form can be completed by using the text
function of the Adobe PDF reader. Comments, Capital T symbol.l Move
the cursor to the form field and type in the information. Once I
complete all of the required field, I then save back to the disk.

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Old April 27th 18, 03:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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I scanned several pages from my AIO printer to my W10 PC. Now I want
to place page numbers on the bottom of the pages in that pdf doc. How
do you do it? I sure can't. Shud be simple(?)
Thanks
Al


Would this work?
1. Open Word and screen copy each PDF page into a Word page.
2. Use Word’s FootNote facility to add page numbers

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Old April 27th 18, 09:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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I scanned several pages from my AIO printer to my W10 PC.
Now I want to place page numbers on the bottom of the pages in
that pdf doc. How do you do it?


You'll need software to edit pdf files which Windows does not include.

Optionally, instead of scanning to pdf, scan to jpg then add page numbers.
Save the edited file and if desired use Windows 10's included 'Print to PDF'


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Old April 27th 18, 10:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Paul" wrote

These tools were formerly from "foolabs". It used to
consist of a reader (mainly for Linux at the time), and some
accessory tools for multiple platforms. In this case, you'd
want their tools kit.

http://www.xpdfreader.com/download.html


I described what I think is a simpler way to do the
same thing with PDF XChange Viewer:

Load the PDF

Use File - Export to Image to extract pages.

Edit them.

Put each image on the Clipboard and Paste back
to PXV.

I do exactly that with my MA state taxes. (We
have MIT and Harvard, yet the state experts can't
figure out how to make a fillable PDF form!)
I extract the pages as images, use the Text tool
in Paint Shop Pro to fill them out, then paste them
back in. It sounds like a lot of work, but aside from
some fiddling with character spacing it's actually
not a big job. Much easier than filling out multiples
by hand, and I end up with e-records.


I used to use Acrobat for that, but switched back to Nuance Power PDF because
it has a better viewer control. Adding text and a signature is easy, then
reprint to PDF or lock the file and save it.

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Old April 28th 18, 12:56 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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GS wrote:

I used to use Acrobat for that, but switched back to Nuance Power PDF because
it has a better viewer control. Adding text and a signature is easy, then
reprint to PDF or lock the file and save it.


15-day trial
$99 thereafter

Does the trial corrupt the document when printed or after editing it,
like watermarking it, after the trial expires or even during the trial?
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Old April 28th 18, 05:28 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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GS wrote:

I used to use Acrobat for that, but switched back to Nuance Power PDF
because it has a better viewer control. Adding text and a signature is
easy, then reprint to PDF or lock the file and save it.


15-day trial
$99 thereafter

Does the trial corrupt the document when printed or after editing it,
like watermarking it, after the trial expires or even during the trial?


I have no idea now, I started using Nuance's app back when it was called PDF
Professional 6.0; I've upgrade twice since:7.0 and now Power PDF Standard. I
think it watermarks pages or inserts branding stamps, or both.

They also used to support a free reader that has some markup features, but for
some reason it's no longer available. Bummer, ..it's a great reader IMO!

FWIW
I started with Nuance for making edocs; - ebooks, emanuals, and app userguides.
I switched to Acrobat at my daughter's request for publishing her ebooks; -
didn't like it as much so gave Acrobat to her to carry on on her own. Not sure
why Adobe can't improve their reader control to be more accurate with bookmarks
destinations, though, because most of my edoc users are doomed to using an
Adobe-based reader. I decided to package my edocs inside a stand-alone EXE that
has the same reader (the wpCubed OCX) that Nuance uses.

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