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Old May 2nd 18, 01:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Jason
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Default manual downloading of upgrade 1803

Hi, I can't find the MSoft upgrades catalogue, to
select the above, and then to try and upgrage my
old instance of Windows10 that has a corrupted
upgrade feature. Is this called "catalogue" or
something else?
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Old May 2nd 18, 02:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
GlowingBlueMist[_6_]
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On 5/1/2018 7:40 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I can't find the MSoft upgrades catalogue, to
select the above, and then to try and upgrage my
old instance of Windows10 that has a corrupted
upgrade feature. Is this called "catalogue" or
something else?

Go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 and
click on the blue "Update now" button.
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Old May 2nd 18, 03:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Jason
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Default manual downloading of upgrade 1803

On Tue, 1 May 2018 20:19:57 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
wrote:

On 5/1/2018 7:40 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I can't find the MSoft upgrades catalogue, to
select the above, and then to try and upgrage my
old instance of Windows10 that has a corrupted
upgrade feature. Is this called "catalogue" or
something else?

Go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 and
click on the blue "Update now" button.


Thanks, I need the catalogue (or whatever its
called) because it's not this windows10 I want to
upgrade but my old one with a corrupted upgrade
system.
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Old May 2nd 18, 05:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default manual downloading of upgrade 1803

Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2018 20:19:57 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
wrote:

On 5/1/2018 7:40 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I can't find the MSoft upgrades catalogue, to
select the above, and then to try and upgrage my
old instance of Windows10 that has a corrupted
upgrade feature. Is this called "catalogue" or
something else?

Go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 and
click on the blue "Update now" button.


Thanks, I need the catalogue (or whatever its
called) because it's not this windows10 I want to
upgrade but my old one with a corrupted upgrade
system.


If you go to this page from a WinXP browser
or from a Linux browser, you will be offered a 4.4GB ISO9660
file, suitable for making a DVD or loading onto a USB
stick (with the appropriate tool).

https://s31.postimg.cc/fnavsmq23/ISO...ux_browser.gif

That's me preparing to download 1803 right now. I'm using Mint
in a virtual machine.

You could probably also generate a URL using Heidoc
and the tool they've got, but that's overkill for
something this easy :-)

Paul
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Old May 2nd 18, 06:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
GlowingBlueMist[_6_]
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Default manual downloading of upgrade 1803

On 5/1/2018 9:16 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2018 20:19:57 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
wrote:

On 5/1/2018 7:40 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I can't find the MSoft upgrades catalogue, to
select the above, and then to try and upgrage my
old instance of Windows10 that has a corrupted
upgrade feature. Is this called "catalogue" or
something else?

Go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 and
click on the blue "Update now" button.


Thanks, I need the catalogue (or whatever its
called) because it's not this windows10 I want to
upgrade but my old one with a corrupted upgrade
system.

The "Download tool now" button is the next button down on the same page.

It says it will let you create a USB, DVD, or the ISO file of Windows 10
which you can use for a fresh install or an update. Make the version of
your choice and use it on what ever Windows 10 PC you want to create or
work on.
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Old May 2nd 18, 11:34 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default manual downloading of upgrade 1803

"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...

Hi, I can't find the MSoft upgrades catalogue, to
select the above, and then to try and upgrade my
old instance of Windows10 that has a corrupted
upgrade feature. Is this called "catalogue" or
something else?


Three choices available for upgrading to 1803. The Microsoft Catalog is not
one of them, thus it's 'something else'

1. Run WU manually - check for updates
2. Use the Media Creation Tool and create 1803 media(USB/DVD) or save an ISO
for mounting or creating media
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10
3. Use the Upgrade Now option on the same web site that provides the MCT.

See the How To section(it covers the above steps)
https://windowsunplugged.blog/2018/0...l-2018-update/

Fyi..if looking for an earlier version(not 1803, but 1709, 1703, 1607 etc.)
you'll need to have previously created media for that version. The MCT
version exe file now only provides 1803


-- --
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ
msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018

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Old May 2nd 18, 01:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Paul wrote:
Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2018 20:19:57 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
wrote:

On 5/1/2018 7:40 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I can't find the MSoft upgrades catalogue, to
select the above, and then to try and upgrage my
old instance of Windows10 that has a corrupted
upgrade feature. Is this called "catalogue" or
something else?

Go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 and
click on the blue "Update now" button.


Thanks, I need the catalogue (or whatever its
called) because it's not this windows10 I want to
upgrade but my old one with a corrupted upgrade
system.


If you go to this page from a WinXP browser
or from a Linux browser, you will be offered a 4.4GB ISO9660
file, suitable for making a DVD or loading onto a USB
stick (with the appropriate tool).

https://s31.postimg.cc/fnavsmq23/ISO...ux_browser.gif

That's me preparing to download 1803 right now. I'm using Mint
in a virtual machine.

You could probably also generate a URL using Heidoc
and the tool they've got, but that's overkill for
something this easy :-)

Paul


This is what I got:

Win10_1803_English_x64.iso
4,692,365,312 bytes
SHA1: 08FBB24627FA768F869C09F44C5D6C1E53A57A6F

Win10_1803_English_x32.iso
3,389,732,864 bytes
SHA1: 3F2063B7419675E98C8DF82BC0607BBB1CE298BB

Paul
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Old May 2nd 18, 11:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Bill Bradshaw
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Default manual downloading of upgrade 1803

I downloaded a 1803 ISO and created a DVD which I could run from within
Windows to Upgrade. I was expecting the ISO to be bootable. Is it suppose
to be bootable so I can determine if I something wrong when I created the
DVD?
--
Bill

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"...w¡ñ§±¤ñ" wrote in message
news
"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...

Hi, I can't find the MSoft upgrades catalogue, to
select the above, and then to try and upgrade my
old instance of Windows10 that has a corrupted
upgrade feature. Is this called "catalogue" or
something else?


Three choices available for upgrading to 1803. The Microsoft Catalog is
not
one of them, thus it's 'something else'

1. Run WU manually - check for updates
2. Use the Media Creation Tool and create 1803 media(USB/DVD) or save an
ISO
for mounting or creating media
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10
3. Use the Upgrade Now option on the same web site that provides the MCT.

See the How To section(it covers the above steps)
https://windowsunplugged.blog/2018/0...l-2018-update/

Fyi..if looking for an earlier version(not 1803, but 1709, 1703, 1607
etc.)
you'll need to have previously created media for that version. The MCT
version exe file now only provides 1803


-- --
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
msft mvp 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018



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Old May 3rd 18, 12:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default manual downloading of upgrade 1803

Bill Bradshaw wrote:
I downloaded a 1803 ISO and created a DVD which I could run from within
Windows to Upgrade. I was expecting the ISO to be bootable. Is it suppose
to be bootable so I can determine if I something wrong when I created the
DVD?


1) You boot it, if doing a Clean install (AKA Nuke and pave).
(It should boot in UEFI or legacy mode, and is effectively
a hybrid disc. The way you boot, has an impact on the
kind of Clean install done.)

2) You insert the DVD in a machine running the previous
version of Windows 10, execute Setup.exe off the DVD,
and that does an Upgrade install, keeping user data and
PE32 programs. (This is what I did two hourz ago.)
The Windows Store items are likely to be refreshed
from the Store (whatever happens, they take care of
themselves).

In the case of (2), you don't even need to burn a DVD.
You can "mount" the ISO9660 file as a virtual DVD drive.
Right-click the file and see if a "mount" option in bold
letters is present.

Here's a few steps and details for (2).

1) Windows is a creature of habit, and like getting a double-double
at 7AM in the morning, every morning, Windows likes:

a) Windows Defender update - you can manually download this
on a second machine, and bring it over to the (isolated)
Win10 machine on a USB stick. Right-click the "mpam-fe.exe"
file when over there, and select "Run as administrator".

b) Adobe Flash update. If you've been using the machine
recently, you likely have this already.

c) KB890830 MRT.exe scanner. Arrives every patch Tuesday.

d) Servicing Stack update. Usually before an OS Upgrade,
there is some preparatory work for the Upgrade. The OS
might indicate something is missing, or try and download
that, if it is not present. It's a dependency.

If these were done (somehow) in advance, it reduces
the level of "distraction" for the process.

2) With digestive cookies eaten, the OS is now ready for the
Upgrade.

a) disable Windows Defender real time scan
b) disable SuperFetch in services (tends to rail during
disk activity).
c) disable Windows Search

Open the Search Indexer window and hit Pause. The Search Indexer
window will "pop to the front" later, so leave it open :-)

3) Run "setup.exe" off the virtual DVD drive of the mounted
ISO9660 file. The purple screen will cover the entire window,
in an attempt to prevent you from interfering.

At around 36%, the search service will "stop", and the opened
Search Indexer will pop to the front of the purple Upgrade
backdrop. In addition, now your Task Bar is exposed and you're
back in control.

The Upgrade started to slow down at this point. A check with
Task Manager shows the system wasn't busy. It was going to be
one of those days.

I couldn't spot SetupHost at first. But, I opened
Process Explorer (from Sysinternals) and I could see it.
I got the PID number, went to Task Manager, sorted by
PID, and by right-clicking, raised SetupHost to "Above Normal"
priority. The Upgrade then went back on track again, and
SetupHost started processing the files in preparation
for the install.

So I lost a little time, when losing track of what was
going on at around 66% or so (on the purple screen).

After the first phase is complete, the OS no longer needs
the DVD image, and since all the files were copied in the
steps above, it's ready to do the actual install.

These were my timings:

(Full backup of C: completes, time for install)

Start: 5:01 PM
Bumped SetupHost priority somewhere in here
when progress seemed to stall. Task bar visible,
all tools available.

Copy Phase Complete, reboot: 5:15PM (end of "purple screen" phase)
(several reboots)
Screen says "Hi"... 5:23PM
Desktop appears... 5:25PM

You can turn on "Windows Defender real time" at this point.
Superfetch, Search Indexer, have already enabled themselves.

Paul
 




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