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SP2 Behavior ...
It was decided by these clients not to be cost effective for them to
re-write their code for these custom applications. Testy "Eyal Teler" wrote in message ... Testy wrote: As I have stated elsewhere I have Beats tested SP2 for several months for several of my clients. The major on which supplies custom software to major companies throughout N.A. has decided to NOT support SP 2 and has advised all its clients to stay with SP1 or to switch to Linux which will be fully supported. I'd be interesting to know why this decision was made. Have any of the problems which must have resulted in this decision been reported to Microsoft, how were they reported, and what was the response if any? Eyal --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 |
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Testy wrote:
As I have stated elsewhere I have Beats tested SP2 for several months for several of my clients. The major on which supplies custom software to major companies throughout N.A. has decided to NOT support SP 2 and has advised all its clients to stay with SP1 or to switch to Linux which will be fully supported. I'd be interesting to know why this decision was made. Have any of the problems which must have resulted in this decision been reported to Microsoft, how were they reported, and what was the response if any? Eyal |
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No. It would be far to technical for you to understand.
Testy "Eyal Teler" wrote in message ... Testy wrote: It was decided by these clients not to be cost effective for them to re-write their code for these custom applications. Why? Did they have a bunch of deliberate buffer underruns that would be prevented by SP2? Eyal --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 |
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Testy wrote:
It was decided by these clients not to be cost effective for them to re-write their code for these custom applications. Why? Did they have a bunch of deliberate buffer underruns that would be prevented by SP2? Eyal |
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Well, if you think you would be able to understand and know better the over
75 consultants working for several developers that employ hundreds of programmers and supply custom applications to major corporation and governments please send me your resume there is a position open that pays 150,000US I am sure you would qualify. Testy "Eyal Teler" wrote in message ... Testy wrote: No. It would be far to technical for you to understand. Really, that technical, huh. I'd have said "try me" but I'm sure you have no shred of idea yourself. Eyal --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 |
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Testy wrote:
No. It would be far to technical for you to understand. Really, that technical, huh. I'd have said "try me" but I'm sure you have no shred of idea yourself. Eyal |
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Testy wrote:
Well, if you think you would be able to understand and know better the over 75 consultants working for several developers that employ hundreds of programmers and supply custom applications to major corporation and governments please send me your resume there is a position open that pays 150,000US I am sure you would qualify. I'm not saying I know better. I assume they had reasons (and it's also clear to me now that, as I suspected, you don't know them). What I wonder is whether they discussed it with Microsoft in any way. I understand that these people were on the beta, so did Microsoft just tell them "we don't care about your problem reports"? BTW, the position isn't relevant (considering that I'm not in the US and that you haven't given details), but thanks for the offer. Eyal |
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Of course they were in contact with MS! For security reasons I am not
allowed to provide the information you request. If I did so I would be subject to prosecution under breech of contract and several international security laws. P.S. if you really are that good send your resume I never said the position was NOT in the U.S. Testy "Eyal Teler" wrote in message ... Testy wrote: Well, if you think you would be able to understand and know better the over 75 consultants working for several developers that employ hundreds of programmers and supply custom applications to major corporation and governments please send me your resume there is a position open that pays 150,000US I am sure you would qualify. I'm not saying I know better. I assume they had reasons (and it's also clear to me now that, as I suspected, you don't know them). What I wonder is whether they discussed it with Microsoft in any way. I understand that these people were on the beta, so did Microsoft just tell them "we don't care about your problem reports"? BTW, the position isn't relevant (considering that I'm not in the US and that you haven't given details), but thanks for the offer. Eyal --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.735 / Virus Database: 489 - Release Date: 8/6/2004 |
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I am only a small cog in a huge worldwide conglomerate. All actions were
taken at the highest level since several nations security were involved. Testy "Eyal Teler" wrote in message ... Testy wrote: Of course they were in contact with MS! For security reasons I am not allowed to provide the information you request. If I did so I would be subject to prosecution under breech of contract and several international security laws. Okay, sorry. Pity I can't satisfy my curiosity. If you're allowed, however, perhaps you could write a detailed description of the case and e-mail it to one of the higher ups in Microsoft. As an MVP and beta tester, I've seen feedback go to waste by inadequate responses, but I've also seen good responses when feedback reached the right people. I'm sure Microsoft does care about losing business, so they might try to do something. Too late for SP2, but maybe in the future... So if you have some time to spare, such a letter might achieve something. P.S. if you really are that good send your resume I never said the position was NOT in the U.S. I may be misunderstanding the sentence -- is it in the US or not? The sentence says it is, but I'm not, so... In any case, not really relevant right now (not sure if at all, since I still don't know what job you're offering). I'm in YAS mode (Yet Another Startup). Payment up front is lousy (and usually in the end, too), but high job satisfaction. Eyal --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.736 / Virus Database: 490 - Release Date: 8/9/2004 |
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Testy wrote:
Of course they were in contact with MS! For security reasons I am not allowed to provide the information you request. If I did so I would be subject to prosecution under breech of contract and several international security laws. Okay, sorry. Pity I can't satisfy my curiosity. If you're allowed, however, perhaps you could write a detailed description of the case and e-mail it to one of the higher ups in Microsoft. As an MVP and beta tester, I've seen feedback go to waste by inadequate responses, but I've also seen good responses when feedback reached the right people. I'm sure Microsoft does care about losing business, so they might try to do something. Too late for SP2, but maybe in the future... So if you have some time to spare, such a letter might achieve something. P.S. if you really are that good send your resume I never said the position was NOT in the U.S. I may be misunderstanding the sentence -- is it in the US or not? The sentence says it is, but I'm not, so... In any case, not really relevant right now (not sure if at all, since I still don't know what job you're offering). I'm in YAS mode (Yet Another Startup). Payment up front is lousy (and usually in the end, too), but high job satisfaction. Eyal |
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SP2 from MSDN?
Yeah, it appears that they messed up on the version string.
The only way to tell that you have the final version is if it says xpsp_sp2_rtm. Notice the date is incorrect as well, since the final build date was 2004-08-04 not 2004-08-03. It seems they were under the gun to get the final version out and this just slipped between the cracks. How unforunate, since it is very confusing. The correct version string should have been: Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040804-2180: Service Pack 2 "Nospam" wrote in message ... I see Windows XP SP2 listed on the MSDN downloads site. Is this the official release? I d/l it, installed it. I thought it was supposed to be build 2180, but when I do a Winver I get the following: Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158: Service Pack 2 which sounds like build 2158. However, if I look at the AUTORUN.DLL file on the CD I burned I see 5.1.2600.2180 as the version of that file. So is this the correct official release? |
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SP2 from MSDN?
2158 refers to time not Build so it is correct..
That is why 2158 follows the date, you not only get the date but the time. 2158 = 9:58 PM (most likely Pacific time) -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "Michael J. Carter" wrote in message ... Yeah, it appears that they messed up on the version string. The only way to tell that you have the final version is if it says xpsp_sp2_rtm. Notice the date is incorrect as well, since the final build date was 2004-08-04 not 2004-08-03. It seems they were under the gun to get the final version out and this just slipped between the cracks. How unforunate, since it is very confusing. The correct version string should have been: Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040804-2180: Service Pack 2 "Nospam" wrote in message ... I see Windows XP SP2 listed on the MSDN downloads site. Is this the official release? I d/l it, installed it. I thought it was supposed to be build 2180, but when I do a Winver I get the following: Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158: Service Pack 2 which sounds like build 2158. However, if I look at the AUTORUN.DLL file on the CD I burned I see 5.1.2600.2180 as the version of that file. So is this the correct official release? |
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"Robert Comer" wrote in message
... Supported and works are two very different things. FTP does indeed work, but you have to tell the firewall to let it pass. Well I installed SP2 this morning and having read all this have just checked FTP and VPN. Both work fine under SP2, and I haven't made a single change from the default firewall settings. I haven't specifically allowed this traffic to pass though anyway. Loz. PS. Yes, my firewall is enabled. |
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Eyal,
He originally said.... Please send me your resume there is a position open that pays 150,000US Which means the job pays the equivilant of $150000, not that the job is necessarily in the US itself. Loz. |
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I think it matters if you use passive or active FTP, but anyway, I had to
allow it so it's hard to tell why. some do and some don't. I didn't have to change anything to allow VPN, but I had to add quite a few of my other networking stuff to the exemptions list. (WSEP, VNC, syslog, remote desktop, an iSeries client utility, Brightstor client.) - Bob Comer "Lawrence Groves" wrote in message ... "Robert Comer" wrote in message ... Supported and works are two very different things. FTP does indeed work, but you have to tell the firewall to let it pass. Well I installed SP2 this morning and having read all this have just checked FTP and VPN. Both work fine under SP2, and I haven't made a single change from the default firewall settings. I haven't specifically allowed this traffic to pass though anyway. Loz. PS. Yes, my firewall is enabled. |
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