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SP2 - WHY?????
I installed SP2 yesterday over an existing Windows XP SP1
installation. After performing a Disk Cleanup and Defrag, I must say this computer is performing better than ever. List of fixes included in Service Pack 2 for Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp The final version of SP2 is not yet available to the general public for download. It should appear as a Critical Update sometime around August 16th on the Windows Update website. Check this site next week for updates to it's availability: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../winxpsp2.mspx -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User Be Smart! Protect your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "tony" wrote: | What is wrong with all of the authors in this newsgroup. What is the hurry | about installing SP2? | Haven't they learnt yet that it isn't wise to install a new package as soon | as it is available as there | will no doubt be many bugs that will need updating within the first month. | (A lot of you will be aware of the ZoneAlarm 5 fiasco!) | I personally will not be updating with SP2 until I have seen what the | feedback is like in this and | other groups. | Good luck to all | Tony |
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SP2 - WHY?????
The other thing about SP2 is that a number of applications are going
to need updates/patches for SP2 compatibility. Most if not all won't post those until the official release on Tuesday. However, holding off is logical for a Enterprise where there are lots of PC's and proprietary applications. For 99% of home based users SP2 will install fine. But, I would still recommend users take a system image before starting the process. Everyone who is eager to get SP2 should spend a little time reading the change documentation on the Service Pack. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2chngs.mspx It's technical, but summarizes how things will change after installing SP2. Anyway Tuesday should be an interesting day here on XP General. "tony" wrote in message ... What is wrong with all of the authors in this newsgroup. What is the hurry about installing SP2? Haven't they learnt yet that it isn't wise to install a new package as soon as it is available as there will no doubt be many bugs that will need updating within the first month. (A lot of you will be aware of the ZoneAlarm 5 fiasco!) I personally will not be updating with SP2 until I have seen what the feedback is like in this and other groups. Good luck to all Tony |
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Hi Tony, Someone once wrote that the pioneers get the arrows and the settlers
get the fruit. I have been one of the many who beta tested the SP2 upgrade and while there were problems at first, MS fixed the ones they could and told me when they couldn't or wouldn't. I wouldn't be afraid of SP 2 especially if you back up your existing system and /or set a restore point. I was pleased to see that I could run the SP2 firewall, zone alarm and my router without conflict. In fact, I couldn't use the MS firewall in SP1 with my home network; I can without a problem in SP2. The upgrade does improve Windows XP. "tony" wrote: What is wrong with all of the authors in this newsgroup. What is the hurry about installing SP2? Haven't they learnt yet that it isn't wise to install a new package as soon as it is available as there will no doubt be many bugs that will need updating within the first month. (A lot of you will be aware of the ZoneAlarm 5 fiasco!) I personally will not be updating with SP2 until I have seen what the feedback is like in this and other groups. Good luck to all Tony |
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What a ridiculous statement to make. SP2 has been out and tested for several
months now. I personally have had it since the release and gone from RC1 to RC2 and assisted with bug reporting like thousands of others. While in fact nothing is perfect in computing with an attitude like yours we would still all be using Windows '98. }:~) |
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What is wrong with all of the authors in this newsgroup. What is the hurry
about installing SP2? Haven't they learnt yet that it isn't wise to install a new package as soon as it is available as there will no doubt be many bugs that will need updating within the first month. (A lot of you will be aware of the ZoneAlarm 5 fiasco!) I personally will not be updating with SP2 until I have seen what the feedback is like in this and other groups. Good luck to all Tony |
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On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:49:39 GMT, "tony"
wrote: What is wrong with all of the authors in this newsgroup. What is the hurry about installing SP2? Haven't they learnt yet that it isn't wise to install a new package as soon as it is available as there will no doubt be many bugs that will need updating within the first month. (A lot of you will be aware of the ZoneAlarm 5 fiasco!) I personally will not be updating with SP2 until I have seen what the feedback is like in this and other groups. Good luck to all Tony FWIW, I've been on the beta team for that project. I've got it on three systems here and I've not had a single problem with any of them since the RC1 release. -- Jeffrey Struyk Microsoft MVP http://support.microsoft.com Please direct all replies to the newsgroup. |
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 14:13:02 -0700, "The Unknown P" (
) wrote: What a ridiculous statement to make. SP2 has been out and tested for several months now. I personally have had it since the release and gone from RC1 to RC2 and assisted with bug reporting like thousands of others. While in fact nothing is perfect in computing with an attitude like yours we would still all be using Windows '98. }:~) Actual I using 98se & Windows xp sp1 rc2. I do see your point |
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MVP wrote On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:49:39 GMT, "tony" wrote: What is wrong with all of the authors in this newsgroup. What is the hurry about installing SP2? Haven't they learnt yet that it isn't wise to install a new package as soon as it is available as there will no doubt be many bugs that will need updating within the first month. (A lot of you will be aware of the ZoneAlarm 5 fiasco!) I personally will not be updating with SP2 until I have seen what the feedback is like in this and other groups. Good luck to all Tony FWIW, I've been on the beta team for that project. I've got it on three systems here and I've not had a single problem with any of them since the RC1 release. -- Jeffrey Struyk Microsoft MVP That's encouraging. But you're a tech. I bet your Windows 98SE/2K/Me/NT ran like silk, too. It will be interesting to see what happens to those people who aren't techs. Like another poster said, this coming Tuesday if, indeed, the SP2 is available on Windows Update for the general public, will be an interesting day on XP General. Alias |
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Carey Frisch [MVP] scribbled:
I installed SP2 yesterday over an existing Windows XP SP1 installation. After performing a Disk Cleanup and Defrag, I must say this computer is performing better than ever. List of fixes included in Service Pack 2 for Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp The final version of SP2 is not yet available to the general public for download. It should appear as a Critical Update sometime around August 16th on the Windows Update website. Check this site next week for updates to it's availability: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../winxpsp2.mspx When is the SP2 CD going to be available, or the retail OS versions with SP2? I'm considering doing an upgrade to XP Pro (from XP home) when it ships with SP2. I certainly cant see me downloading an 80 -113Mb SP2 update over a 56K dial up connection.... -- Replace the obvious with paradise.net to email me Found Images http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~mlvburke |
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On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:09:47 GMT, R. McCarty wrote:
The other thing about SP2 is that a number of applications are going to need updates/patches for SP2 compatibility. Most if not all won't post those until the official release on Tuesday. Is there a list somewhere of applications which have already been identified as needing updates/patches for SP2 compatibility? TIA, Terry |
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"Terrycymru" wrote On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 21:09:47 GMT, R. McCarty wrote: The other thing about SP2 is that a number of applications are going to need updates/patches for SP2 compatibility. Most if not all won't post those until the official release on Tuesday. Is there a list somewhere of applications which have already been identified as needing updates/patches for SP2 compatibility? TIA, Terry I would be curious to see that list, too. I am not going to install SP2 until I know my apps. will work. I am especially worried about WS_FTP 95 as I do a lot of web work. Alias |
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I take my hat off to all of the Beta testers of SP2 but as to your statement
that we would all still be using Windows '98 is ridiculous, this ng and its posts reinforces my contention that this seriously large upgrade to the OS is going to be troublesome. It is not so much the Microsoft side of the upgrade that worries me, more that of the 3rd party software that we all rely on to work seamlessly with it. I still say that a "wait and see" approach is best, but I may be wrong. The near future will tell us the truth about the upgrade. Tony |
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On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 01:45:47 +0200, "Alias"
wrote: FWIW, I've been on the beta team for that project. I've got it on three systems here and I've not had a single problem with any of them since the RC1 release. -- Jeffrey Struyk Microsoft MVP That's encouraging. But you're a tech. I bet your Windows 98SE/2K/Me/NT ran like silk, too. For the most part, that's a true statement G. It's probably a safe assumption that I spend a bit more time and energy maintaining my systems than the average user. It will be interesting to see what happens to those people who aren't techs. Like another poster said, this coming Tuesday if, indeed, the SP2 is available on Windows Update for the general public, will be an interesting day on XP General. I'm sure there will be questions, issues about the firewall (which is turned on by default) and that kind of thing. As far as new functionality, it's gotten simpler. Take the Security Center and the Wireless Networking. Centralizing the security functions was a very good move. The new wireless networking routines greatly simplify the process and should help novice users configure their own networks. -- Jeffrey Struyk Microsoft MVP http://support.microsoft.com Please direct all replies to the newsgroup. |
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MVP wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 01:45:47 +0200, "Alias" wrote: FWIW, I've been on the beta team for that project. I've got it on three systems here and I've not had a single problem with any of them since the RC1 release. -- Jeffrey Struyk Microsoft MVP That's encouraging. But you're a tech. I bet your Windows 98SE/2K/Me/NT ran like silk, too. For the most part, that's a true statement G. It's probably a safe assumption that I spend a bit more time and energy maintaining my systems than the average user. It will be interesting to see what happens to those people who aren't techs. Like another poster said, this coming Tuesday if, indeed, the SP2 is available on Windows Update for the general public, will be an interesting day on XP General. I'm sure there will be questions, issues about the firewall (which is turned on by default) and that kind of thing. As far as new functionality, it's gotten simpler. Take the Security Center and the Wireless Networking. Centralizing the security functions was a very good move. The new wireless networking routines greatly simplify the process and should help novice users configure their own networks. -- Jeffrey Struyk Microsoft MVP But won't having auto update/install enabled cause problems if they also have their AV's auto-scan enabled? Won't some programs not work properly after the download and installation? Alias |
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On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 16:25:08 +0200, "Alias"
wrote: MVP wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 01:45:47 +0200, "Alias" wrote: FWIW, I've been on the beta team for that project. I've got it on three systems here and I've not had a single problem with any of them since the RC1 release. -- Jeffrey Struyk Microsoft MVP That's encouraging. But you're a tech. I bet your Windows 98SE/2K/Me/NT ran like silk, too. For the most part, that's a true statement G. It's probably a safe assumption that I spend a bit more time and energy maintaining my systems than the average user. It will be interesting to see what happens to those people who aren't techs. Like another poster said, this coming Tuesday if, indeed, the SP2 is available on Windows Update for the general public, will be an interesting day on XP General. I'm sure there will be questions, issues about the firewall (which is turned on by default) and that kind of thing. As far as new functionality, it's gotten simpler. Take the Security Center and the Wireless Networking. Centralizing the security functions was a very good move. The new wireless networking routines greatly simplify the process and should help novice users configure their own networks. -- Jeffrey Struyk Microsoft MVP But won't having auto update/install enabled cause problems if they also have their AV's auto-scan enabled? Won't some programs not work properly after the download and installation? Alias For some reason Nortons 2004 for has some problems on some systems. Possible due to the stupid activation. However, Using any previous Norton’s version 2003 or earlier should work. Here’s how I would install xp sp2 if I was downloading xp sp2 and had Norton’s. First change windows automatic update to "download updates for me, but let me choose when to install them." When it done downloading. I would unplug or disconnect my internet connections. In services.msc I would stop all of Norton’s services. (Not disable) Install xp s2 Reboot The only thing security center may not recognize it Norton is installed. Greg R |
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