sp2 windows update bug?

Windows update notfies me I need this update.

Size: 1.3 MB
S3 Graphics, Inc. display software update released on May 26 2003.

However, according to the device manager. I have this version. S3
Graphics, Inc. Driver Date 6/3/2004

Which is newer

Greg R
http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

Doesn't matter which is newer. You should always go to the computer or
device manufacturer for driver updates and NOT use the Microsoft drivers.


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Windows update notfies me I need this update.

Size: 1.3 MB
S3 Graphics, Inc. display software update released on May 26 2003.

However, according to the device manager. I have this version. S3
Graphics, Inc. Driver Date 6/3/2004

Which is newer

Greg R
http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

Agreed. You are gambling if you install MS hardware driver updates.
I have no idea how MS determines what hardware drivers to tell people
to install, but more often than not, they are the wrong ones.

Go to your device manufacturer and get the Correct drivers from them.


"LVTravel" wrote in message ...
Doesn't matter which is newer. You should always go to the computer or
device manufacturer for driver updates and NOT use the Microsoft drivers.


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Windows update notfies me I need this update.

Size: 1.3 MB
S3 Graphics, Inc. display software update released on May 26 2003.

However, according to the device manager. I have this version. S3
Graphics, Inc. Driver Date 6/3/2004

Which is newer

Greg R
http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

It means that it is the lastest signed driver recieved
from the mfg.
Sometimes there is no need to go beyound that because the
video card does not support the new function anyway.

Maybe some new drivers will show up after the SP2 wave?

SJ
-----Original Message-----
Agreed. You are gambling if you install MS hardware
driver updates.
I have no idea how MS determines what hardware drivers
to tell people
to install, but more often than not, they are the wrong
ones.

Go to your device manufacturer and get the Correct
drivers from them.


"LVTravel" wrote in message
...
Doesn't matter which is newer. You should always go
to the computer or
device manufacturer for driver updates and NOT use the
Microsoft drivers.


"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Windows update notfies me I need this update.

Size: 1.3 MB
S3 Graphics, Inc. display software update released
on May 26 2003.

However, according to the device manager. I have
this version. S3
Graphics, Inc. Driver Date 6/3/2004

Which is newer

Greg R
http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/




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"RJ" wrote in message
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Agreed. You are gambling if you install MS hardware driver updates.
I have no idea how MS determines what hardware drivers to tell people
to install, but more often than not, they are the wrong ones.

Go to your device manufacturer and get the Correct drivers from them.

this is simply false. the drivers offered via Windows Update are actually
built by the 3rd party hardware vendors themselves and submitted to
Microsoft for regression testing and WHQL certification. THAT is why they
are offered on the WU site, because they have been *tested* in Microsoft's
WHQL Labs and proven to be *reliable*. i've updated the device drivers (via
WU) on countless Windows systems and not ONCE have i encountered a problem.
It's true a hardware vendor may have a newer version of a particular driver
available on their own website (by the time Microsoft posts the WHQL
certified version to WU), but that does not mean the tested version, offered
via WU, is the 'wrong one' (that is simply bullsh*t). do you know anything
about matching drivers to device IDs? i suspect not.

the general rule is, if WU offers an updated driver for your hardware, go
check the hardware vendor's website first, to see if they offer an updated
version too, compare the two versions and choose the latest one, which will
likely be the hardware vendor's version. however, keep in mind, the version
offered by Microsoft has been *tested* and *certified*, the one on the
vendor's website may not have been.

there is absolutely *nothing* wrong with the drivers offered via WU, this is
a persistent myth that misinformed people keep spreading around... please
get your facts straight

--
francis

"LVTravel" wrote in message
...
Doesn't matter which is newer. You should always go to the computer or
device manufacturer for driver updates and NOT use the Microsoft drivers.

this is simply false. the drivers offered via Windows Update are actually
built by the 3rd party hardware vendors themselves and submitted to
Microsoft for regression testing and WHQL certification. THAT is why they
are offered on the WU site, because they have been *tested* in Microsoft's
WHQL Labs and proven to be *reliable*. i've updated the device drivers (via
WU) on countless Windows systems and not ONCE have i encountered a problem.
It's true a hardware vendor may have a newer version of a particular driver
available on their own website (by the time Microsoft posts the WHQL
certified version to WU), but that does not mean the tested version, offered
via WU, is the 'wrong one' (that is simply bullsh*t). do you know anything
about matching drivers to device IDs? i suspect not.

the general rule is, if WU offers an updated driver for your hardware, go
check the hardware vendor's website first, to see if they offer an updated
version too, compare the two versions and choose the latest one, which will
likely be the hardware vendor's version. however, keep in mind, the version
offered by Microsoft has been *tested* and *certified*, the one on the
vendor's website may not have been.

there is absolutely *nothing* wrong with the drivers offered via WU, this is
a persistent myth that misinformed people keep spreading around... please
get your facts straight

--
francis

To All,
My point is windows update is reporting I need this driver.
However, I already have the current driver install from the
Manufactures. Some how windows update things I have an older driver
on my system. I wonder if windows update need a year 2000 patch-hehe
Since I knowledgably about computer. I just told windows update to
not to notify me about this update.

Sorry Francis this I am going to have to disagree with you on this
one. I had a driver downloaded from windows update. It really
messed up my system. However, Downloading from the manufacture site
and installing it I had no problems. This was the same driver
version.




http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/

Yes of course. Just because You have Never had a problem, no one else
has either. And those of us who have installed MS driver
updates from Windows Update, and then had problems with that hardware,
no doubt imagined it.



"francis gérard" wrote in message ...

"RJ" wrote in message
...
Agreed. You are gambling if you install MS hardware driver updates.
I have no idea how MS determines what hardware drivers to tell people
to install, but more often than not, they are the wrong ones.

Go to your device manufacturer and get the Correct drivers from them.

this is simply false. the drivers offered via Windows Update are actually
built by the 3rd party hardware vendors themselves and submitted to
Microsoft for regression testing and WHQL certification. THAT is why they
are offered on the WU site, because they have been *tested* in Microsoft's
WHQL Labs and proven to be *reliable*. i've updated the device drivers (via
WU) on countless Windows systems and not ONCE have i encountered a problem.
It's true a hardware vendor may have a newer version of a particular driver
available on their own website (by the time Microsoft posts the WHQL
certified version to WU), but that does not mean the tested version, offered
via WU, is the 'wrong one' (that is simply bullsh*t). do you know anything
about matching drivers to device IDs? i suspect not.

the general rule is, if WU offers an updated driver for your hardware, go
check the hardware vendor's website first, to see if they offer an updated
version too, compare the two versions and choose the latest one, which will
likely be the hardware vendor's version. however, keep in mind, the version
offered by Microsoft has been *tested* and *certified*, the one on the
vendor's website may not have been.

there is absolutely *nothing* wrong with the drivers offered via WU, this is
a persistent myth that misinformed people keep spreading around... please
get your facts straight

--
francis

"Greg R" wrote in message
...
Windows update notfies me I need this update.

Size: 1.3 MB
S3 Graphics, Inc. display software update released on May 26 2003.

However, according to the device manager. I have this version. S3
Graphics, Inc. Driver Date 6/3/2004

the dates are meaningless... look for the actual Driver Version number on
the device's Driver tab in the Device Manager console

if WU is offering you a driver, then it has detected that the WU version is
more compatible with your hardware and/or the currently installed version on
your system is old or missing driver components

check the current Driver Version (make note of it), use system restore to
manually create a restore point (although WU does this automatically when it
installs a driver), allow WU to install/update the S3 video driver, restart
and re-check the driver version, is it newer? in the unlikely event that
you are unable to restart the system after updating a driver, use F8 during
startup to choose Last Known Good Configuration (do not use system restore
subsequent to using LKGC).

btw, changing video drivers can sometimes reset the screen resolution and
colour depth to default values, so you will want to verify that those
parameters are set correctly (after installing the new driver). typically,
screen resolution should be at least 800x600, ideally 1024x768 for a good
15" monitor and higher for larger screens. colour depth should be set at
Highest (32 or 24 bit).
--
francis

"RJ" wrote in message
...
Yes of course. Just because You have Never had a problem, no one else
has either. And those of us who have installed MS driver
updates from Windows Update, and then had problems with that hardware,
no doubt imagined it.

be specific

--
francis

"Greg R" wrote in message
...
To All,
My point is windows update is reporting I need this driver.
However, I already have the current driver install from the
Manufactures. Some how windows update things I have an older driver
on my system. I wonder if windows update need a year 2000 patch-hehe
Since I knowledgably about computer. I just told windows update to
not to notify me about this update.

Sorry Francis this I am going to have to disagree with you on this
one. I had a driver downloaded from windows update. It really
messed up my system. However, Downloading from the manufacture site
and installing it I had no problems. This was the same driver
version.

well greg, you asked for advice... you got it, do with it what you will.

i'm curious, what driver did you get from WU that "really messed up" your
system? and if the driver installed via WU was the "same driver version"
that you downloaded from the hardware vendor's website, then i'm even more
skeptical of your claim.
--
francis

Geez Frank... Can't you just accept that some people
have had one too many problems with WU drivers and have learned
their lesson... don't install them.


"francis gérard" wrote in message ...

"Greg R" wrote in message
...
To All,
My point is windows update is reporting I need this driver.
However, I already have the current driver install from the
Manufactures. Some how windows update things I have an older driver
on my system. I wonder if windows update need a year 2000 patch-hehe
Since I knowledgably about computer. I just told windows update to
not to notify me about this update.

Sorry Francis this I am going to have to disagree with you on this
one. I had a driver downloaded from windows update. It really
messed up my system. However, Downloading from the manufacture site
and installing it I had no problems. This was the same driver
version.

well greg, you asked for advice... you got it, do with it what you will.

i'm curious, what driver did you get from WU that "really messed up" your
system? and if the driver installed via WU was the "same driver version"
that you downloaded from the hardware vendor's website, then i'm even more
skeptical of your claim.
--
francis

"RJ" wrote in message
...
Geez Frank... Can't you just accept that some people
have had one too many problems with WU drivers and have learned
their lesson... don't install them.

there are always potential issues when installing device drivers, whether
via WU or a 3rd party, but a driver from WU is no more prone to problems
than one downloaded from a hardware vendor. that's been my experience, i
build/maintain/upgrade/update computers and small networks... that's what i
do, so i've done this enough times to make a qualified statement, that WU
has not once given me grief after installing a driver update, obviously that
is no guarantee, just my experience, and precautions should be taken before
installing drivers, regardless of the source.

i'm not doubting that there may be a problem after updating a driver, but
that potential risk applies just as much to drivers downloaded from a
hardware vendor's site as it does to those via WU. the drivers available
via WU are tested and certified by MS' windows hardware quality labs, and
are usually problem-free. however, as with everything in life, there will
always be exceptions.

--
francis

oh yeah, the name is not "frank"

I really disagree with this statement. I have an ATI board in two different
computers. When I have attempted updates via WU both computers crashed.
Pulled Microsoft supplied drivers, went to ATI web site and downloaded their
latest and had absolutely no problem with their "sited" drivers. Had the
same kind of problem with a HP printer also.



"francis gérard" wrote in message
...

"RJ" wrote in message
...
Geez Frank... Can't you just accept that some people
have had one too many problems with WU drivers and have learned
their lesson... don't install them.

there are always potential issues when installing device drivers, whether
via WU or a 3rd party, but a driver from WU is no more prone to problems
than one downloaded from a hardware vendor. that's been my experience, i
build/maintain/upgrade/update computers and small networks... that's what
i
do, so i've done this enough times to make a qualified statement, that WU
has not once given me grief after installing a driver update, obviously
that
is no guarantee, just my experience, and precautions should be taken
before
installing drivers, regardless of the source.

i'm not doubting that there may be a problem after updating a driver, but
that potential risk applies just as much to drivers downloaded from a
hardware vendor's site as it does to those via WU. the drivers available
via WU are tested and certified by MS' windows hardware quality labs, and
are usually problem-free. however, as with everything in life, there will
always be exceptions.

--
francis

oh yeah, the name is not "frank"

I cound not see the computer. If I use those resolutions on my
computer.

I only use 800x600 when I have too, then switch back to 640x800

I have a 15'' monitor. However for 17inch then 800x600 will do fine.


That the same driver I talked about. But it was an another version.

I don't use either version now.


Greg R
http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/