All who think SP2 is SOOOO great,

Ahh a former military man, that explains a lot of his drivel.

Testy

"jupiter is a man ^^^^^^^^^" wrote in
message ...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...s/kimball.mspx















-----Original Message-----
On what do you base this on:
"SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here
by Xmas."
The likelihood of that happening is almost nonexistent and
almost
without precedent other than these 2:
1. A Service Pack for NT with far greater problems than
Windows SP-2.
2. Windows XP SP-1a released as part of a court
settlement with Sun.
Microsoft Virtual Machine was removed from SP-1 changing
it to SP-1a.
NOTHING else was changed even though there were numerous
fixes already
available.

Since SP-2 is 2, it is not the first release, SP-1 was.
If you wait for an update of SP-2, you will most likely
wait forever
since the most likely event is SP-3 in a year or two.

Instead research and prepare your computer:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

Or you can wait forever...your choice.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"M$" wrote in message
...
Well that goes to show once again - NEVER INSTALL the
first release
on
anything!!!!

In 13 years I have never seen or heard of a good reason
for doing
so. While
SP2 may have some needed fixes, it is NEVER so critical
that it
cannot wait
a while till the major bugs are worked out. A set of
good practices
and
common sense will go farther then any SP ever will in
protecting
your PC.
What are the folks doing that have W2k, Win98, Me, etc.?
No, the sky
is not
falling! SP2a sound like a much better choice which
should be here
by Xmas.


"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people
are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people
(obviously
Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about
this, so far
no help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were
gone. I
reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts,
etc, are gone.
Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to
recover some of
the mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was
turned off.

Thanks - Jim






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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.754 / Virus Database: 504 - Release Date: 9/6/2004

How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 12:21:01 -0700, [Jim] said :-

How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Define countless ?

The reports you see in this newsgroup and web write-ups will be those
that failed, you will hardly see any for those that have installed it
without trouble - that's why you came here. If you had no problem
whatever with the install, then you wouldn't say, would you ?


Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help!


When did you last post ?

As you're using that awful web interface, then it's probably you
that's not looking properly. Use a news reader (you say you're using
OE - so use that) and a proper news service supplier, even
msnews.microsoft.com from microsoft.


Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone.

Are you sure you're logging into the correct user ?

Plus, now I'm not receiving any new mail.

Are you getting any error messages ? Check the firewall settings, SP2
will default its own as "on" (unless specific ones are in use).



Did you actually follow the correct procedure before installing SP2 ?

Search your harddrive for *.dbx files and *.wab files

Jon


"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

JIM, I am sorry to here that you lost some email but, had
you actually followed the instruction for installing sp2
you would not have this problem.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx

pay paticular note to: "Before You Download SP2":

7. Perform a full backup of all your files.

and

9. Close all open programs.(this includes Antivirus,
firewalls, messengers, any program that is running in the
background that are not part of the OS)

so stop crying about the service pack and learn how to use
it.


PS. if your DBX files are not on the drive then they are
most likley GONE.

OLEXP: Mail Folders, Address Book, and E-mail Messages Are
Missing After You Upgrade to Microsoft Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;313055

All the Best.

Then use File Import to bring them in


"Jon" wrote in message
...
Search your harddrive for *.dbx files and *.wab files

Jon


"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no
help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the
mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

"grass" you're not much help. Jon, Thanks - I did that and it said nothing
found, which seems odd. I know when SP2 was installing, it said it was
"backing up files."
Where did it backup to?

"Jon" wrote:

Search your harddrive for *.dbx files and *.wab files

Jon


"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

7. Perform a full backup of all your files.

And just to make sure it's clear: System restore doesn't
count as a full backup of your files. (Even if Jim had
it running which was another problem.)

Try this
start run "wab /a"
See if your contacts are listed under any of the identities

Another possibility, is if you make any backups, to perhaps import the .dbx
files from a recent backup

Jon


"Jim" wrote in message
news
"grass" you're not much help. Jon, Thanks - I did that and it said
nothing
found, which seems odd. I know when SP2 was installing, it said it was
"backing up files."
Where did it backup to?

"Jon" wrote:

Search your harddrive for *.dbx files and *.wab files

Jon


"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no
help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I
reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone.
Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the
mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

Well that goes to show once again - NEVER INSTALL the first release on
anything!!!!

In 13 years I have never seen or heard of a good reason for doing so. While
SP2 may have some needed fixes, it is NEVER so critical that it cannot wait
a while till the major bugs are worked out. A set of good practices and
common sense will go farther then any SP ever will in protecting your PC.
What are the folks doing that have W2k, Win98, Me, etc.? No, the sky is not
falling! SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here by Xmas.


"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone.

The previous messages should be stored in C:\Documents and Settings\[the
user you are set up as]\Local Settings\Applications\Identities\[some long
alpha-numeric character string]\Microsoft\Outlook Express.
I'm guessing you will see at least two different long alpha-numeric
character strings. One is the new one you just set up, one is the one you
were using before.
You can import the messages via File, Import, Messages, [choose the version
of Outlook Express], browse to the location above.

Your Windows Address Book [WAB] is stored in C:\Documents and Settings\[the
user you are set up as]\Applications\Microsoft\Address Book. There should
be at least two WAB files - one new one and one from your previous config.

Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.
Not sure about this one. I'd call you ISP/mail service provider. Even
though the problem may be with installing SP2, they should be able to
confirm you're set up right.


How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

Jim;

First of all, there are 2 reasons that you have received no responses;\

1. You failed to follow the installation instructions by not backing up
important data prior to installation.

2. The method used to recover Outlook Express files has been posted in this
newsgroup several times. You merely need to search for it.

In addition, the problem you are having can be solved by using Google.
Had you "Googled" your problem, you would have had it fixed by now.

Bobby

"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone. Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

When you search your harddrive for *.dbx files and *.wab files make sure you
have the "Search hidden files and folders" and "Search system folders" boxes
checked in "More Advanced Options"
( after clicking "All files and folders" and putting *.dbx, *.wab in the
"All or part of the filename" box)

Jon


"Jim" wrote in message
news
"grass" you're not much help. Jon, Thanks - I did that and it said
nothing
found, which seems odd. I know when SP2 was installing, it said it was
"backing up files."
Where did it backup to?

"Jon" wrote:

Search your harddrive for *.dbx files and *.wab files

Jon


"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far no
help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I
reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone.
Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of the
mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

On what do you base this on:
"SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here by Xmas."
The likelihood of that happening is almost nonexistent and almost
without precedent other than these 2:
1. A Service Pack for NT with far greater problems than Windows SP-2.
2. Windows XP SP-1a released as part of a court settlement with Sun.
Microsoft Virtual Machine was removed from SP-1 changing it to SP-1a.
NOTHING else was changed even though there were numerous fixes already
available.

Since SP-2 is 2, it is not the first release, SP-1 was.
If you wait for an update of SP-2, you will most likely wait forever
since the most likely event is SP-3 in a year or two.

Instead research and prepare your computer:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

Or you can wait forever...your choice.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


"M$" wrote in message
...
Well that goes to show once again - NEVER INSTALL the first release
on
anything!!!!

In 13 years I have never seen or heard of a good reason for doing
so. While
SP2 may have some needed fixes, it is NEVER so critical that it
cannot wait
a while till the major bugs are worked out. A set of good practices
and
common sense will go farther then any SP ever will in protecting
your PC.
What are the folks doing that have W2k, Win98, Me, etc.? No, the sky
is not
falling! SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be here
by Xmas.


"Jim" wrote in message
...
How bout helping me with my problems. Countless people are having
problems
with this "virus" called "SP2", and a few people (obviously
Microsoft
employees) say it so great.

Well this will make the third time I've posted about this, so far
no help!

Here's my problem:

Installed service pack 2.

It wiped out my settings in "Outlook Express."
The Account, POP Server and SMTP Server info were gone. I
reconfigured,
Now my previously read mail, address book contacts, etc, are gone.
Plus,
now I'm not receiving any new mail.

How can I get it back? I REALLY, REALLY need to recover some of
the mail.
Unfortunately for some reason, my System Restore was turned off.

Thanks - Jim

SP2a sound like a much better choice which should be
here by Xmas.

Are you aware that SP1a was just SP1 with one feature
removed and that was because MS lost a lawsuit? Service
Pacs usually aren't changed. People just imagine them to
be better as time goes on because there's less
hype/news/complaints.