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I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows
Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. |
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"MJ" wrote in message = ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. =20 I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. =20 Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." =20 It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs for anything = XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for it. You should have read = here, or at MS for the "How Tos" for installing SP2 (or any major MS = update/service pack) before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware problem, and = should be relegated to the manufacturer for warranty. SP2, Windows (or = any software for that matter) doesn't break hardware, people do, or time = does! |
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I Installed sp2 no problems at all, I dont understand why so many have these
problems, I dont have one of them. Rho_1r(VIP) not MVP "Tom" wrote: "MJ" wrote in message ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs for anything XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for it. You should have read here, or at MS for the "How Tos" for installing SP2 (or any major MS update/service pack) before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware problem, and should be relegated to the manufacturer for warranty. SP2, Windows (or any software for that matter) doesn't break hardware, people do, or time does! |
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-----Original Message----- "MJ" wrote in message ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs for anything XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for it. You should have read here, or at MS for the "How Tos" for installing SP2 (or any major MS update/service pack) before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware problem, and should be relegated to the manufacturer for warranty. SP2, Windows (or any software for that matter) doesn't break hardware, people do, or time does! . You assume an awful lot. How do you know the OP didn't properly prepare? I did, and I had very similar results. And note that the OP doesn't say anything about *mechanical* failure of his HD. The fact is, and I learned this the hard way, you can have a system that's running like a top, fully patched, fully protected, defragged, etc., etc. and SP2 can still make a mess of it. Just because *you* haven't had issues and *you* choose to swallow the line of crap about the wonderful "stability" of SP2 being spewed by MS and a few of the MVPs here doesn't mean that everyone should. Consider yourself fortunate, and remember that it's still early. My own time bomb didn't go off until a week after installation. |
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-----Original Message----- I Installed sp2 no problems at all, I dont understand why so many have these problems, I dont have one of them. Rho_1r(VIP) not MVP Well, you're a top-posting idiot, which is one problem many don't have, but you do. |
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:31:44 -0400, "Tom" wrote:
"MJ" wrote in message ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs for anything XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for it. You should have read here, or at MS for the "How Tos" for installing SP2 (or any major MS update/service pack) before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware problem, and should be relegated to the manufacturer for warranty. SP2, Windows (or any software for that matter) doesn't break hardware, people do, or time does! The hard drive works fine, as does every other component. I found out the problem... afterwards. Apparently there is still an ongoing report about incompatibilities with software that is not yet complete, including video drivers, etc. I have no idea what caused the problem but suffice it to say there is NO WAY that SP2 is being installed on my machine for a very, very, very long time. There was nothing any "How To" from MS could have helped me on this one since after the reboot is when these problems sent me into a spiraling trail of autoreboots, each one earlier than the prior until I had no choice. |
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And you're an obnoxious idiot for making responses like that.
"Wislu Plethora" wrote in message ... -----Original Message----- I Installed sp2 no problems at all, I dont understand why so many have these problems, I dont have one of them. Rho_1r(VIP) not MVP Well, you're a top-posting idiot, which is one problem many don't have, but you do. |
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This is the 2nd time I see this comment from you.... so please understand,
not all machines are created equally. (Dell 3.06 Ghz, 2 ea. LCD, 1Gig Ram, WD 80gig) My example is that I can document some specific problems with SP2. Examples: The latest NVidia driver. Some advanced window handling features will not initialize without an error on SP2. They worked perfectly with SP1. (Quadro NVS). The security warnings crop up even though the JavaScript is running locally, on a web app that is communicating to a database on the same machine, (no network access, not even intranet - AND, scripts, even unsigned, are enabled). Windows Explorer, (not IE! ... and not just the File Mgr. window... I mean Explorer that runs the desktop), locks up. I can kill the process, start a new session in a cmd window and go right back to work, but....) Video now causes BSoD (Blue Screen of Death). This is true in several different apps, (Pinnacle, QuickTime, and Irfanview - Is it the graphics driver? [again... worked fine on SP1]). I went through the "get ready for SP2". I ran one week on SP1 with all updated drivers to ensure no problems. I had zero errors on install. This machine is (used to be) on 24X7. I schedule a cleanup and then reboot every Sunday night. I am now researching drivers, doing a cleanup every day, and consider myself lucky if I can get through a days work without having to reboot at least once. I work in I.S. I have advised our service group not to install SP2 until more research is done on driver compatibility, especially regards graphics and the functionality of our home-grown Web Apps. STATEMENT: SP2 is not as robust as SP1. Depending on the driver combinations, installed software base, etc., you may or may not experience these problems, but SP2 is not as robust as SP1. "Rho_1r" wrote: I Installed sp2 no problems at all, I dont understand why so many have these problems, I dont have one of them. Rho_1r(VIP) not MVP "Tom" wrote: "MJ" wrote in message ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs for anything XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for it. You should have read here, or at MS for the "How Tos" for installing SP2 (or any major MS update/service pack) before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware problem, and should be relegated to the manufacturer for warranty. SP2, Windows (or any software for that matter) doesn't break hardware, people do, or time does! |
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Well I couldn't prepapre cos it just automatically started and I knew nothing
of the SP or precautions. "Herb Fritatta" wrote: -----Original Message----- "MJ" wrote in message ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs for anything XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for it. You should have read here, or at MS for the "How Tos" for installing SP2 (or any major MS update/service pack) before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware problem, and should be relegated to the manufacturer for warranty. SP2, Windows (or any software for that matter) doesn't break hardware, people do, or time does! . You assume an awful lot. How do you know the OP didn't properly prepare? I did, and I had very similar results. And note that the OP doesn't say anything about *mechanical* failure of his HD. The fact is, and I learned this the hard way, you can have a system that's running like a top, fully patched, fully protected, defragged, etc., etc. and SP2 can still make a mess of it. Just because *you* haven't had issues and *you* choose to swallow the line of crap about the wonderful "stability" of SP2 being spewed by MS and a few of the MVPs here doesn't mean that everyone should. Consider yourself fortunate, and remember that it's still early. My own time bomb didn't go off until a week after installation. |
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-----Original Message----- Well I couldn't prepapre cos it just automatically started and I knew nothing of the SP or precautions. I think you probably had to agree to a EULA before installation didn't you? I don't think the auto download of SP2 installs without that. If so, then you agreed to something before knowing what you were agreeing to, so you have no room to complain. |
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"Herb Fritatta" wrote in message = ... =20 -----Original Message----- "MJ" wrote in message=20 ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed=20 Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital=20 to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to=20 SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe=20 motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB=20 of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted=20 in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so=20 that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts,=20 inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my=20 needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all=20 over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. =20 I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the=20 process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair=20 and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows=20 (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows=20 XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a=20 very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of=20 XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look=20 forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I=20 need another install key from them. =20 Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you=20 should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows=20 XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash=20 and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." =20 It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact=20 that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further=20 installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs=20 for anything XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for=20 it. You should have read here, or at MS for the "How Tos"=20 for installing SP2 (or any major MS update/service pack)=20 before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware=20 problem, and should be relegated to the manufacturer for=20 warranty. SP2, Windows (or any software for that matter)=20 doesn't break hardware, people do, or time does! . =20 You assume an awful lot. How do you know the OP didn't properly prepare? OP didn't state that she did prepare! I did, and I had very similar results. And note that the OP doesn't say anything about *mechanical* failure of his HD. The OP stated exactly that: "In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble" HD to rubble sounds like destruction of the HD to me; software CANNOT = destroy hardware. In any case, you complain about my reply due to your reading = comprehension problems. But the OP did reply that she didn't lose the = HD, so that was overblown on her part. Again, software CANNOT hurt = hardware, only other softwares/drivers.=20 The fact is, and I=20 learned this the hard way, you can have a system that's running like a top, fully patched, fully protected, defragged, etc., etc. and SP2 can still make a mess of it. That is a fact, but very minimal for the many, and most (like 99.99%) = bad cases are ill prepared installs, and not reading facts and = preparations before installing SP2. It is clearly stated on the SP2 MS = site what to do, and TO BACK UP ALL YOUR IMPORTANT DATA. You could simply put in a new driver from your card MF, and it could = crash your system to that which could require a total install, it is the = nature of things in the PC world, and they happen, and MS would still be = the blame. Bitching about them, especially from not backing up one's = data is not my problem, but I would help with it if I could. Just because *you* haven't had issues and *you* choose to swallow the line of crap about the wonderful "stability" of SP2 being spewed by MS and a few of the MVPs here doesn't mean that everyone should. Consider yourself fortunate, and remember that it's still early. My own time bomb didn't go off until a week after installation. Oh please! The OP has almost the same system I do, and I didn't any = problems whatsoever. Many hardware MFs have updates for SP2 for their = drivers. But still, the OP didn't check out here, or the MS sites = regarding what to do. This isn't some little program that you install = and run, it is a major update, and anyone with a modicum of PC knowledge = would have troubled themselves with READING before INSTALLING! |
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"MJ" wrote in message = ... On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:31:44 -0400, "Tom" wrote: =20 "MJ" wrote in message = ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install = the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA = 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In = one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to = fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. =20 I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying = to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping = out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. =20 Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give = me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." =20 It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs for anything = XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for it. You should have read = here, or at MS for the "How Tos" for installing SP2 (or any major MS = update/service pack) before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware problem, and = should be relegated to the manufacturer for warranty. SP2, Windows (or = any software for that matter) doesn't break hardware, people do, or time = does! =20 The hard drive works fine, as does every other component. I found out the problem... afterwards. Apparently there is still an ongoing report about incompatibilities with software that is not yet complete, including video drivers, etc. I have no idea what caused the problem but suffice it to say there is NO WAY that SP2 is being installed on my machine for a very, very, very long time. =20 There was nothing any "How To" from MS could have helped me on this one since after the reboot is when these problems sent me into a spiraling trail of autoreboots, each one earlier than the prior until I had no choice. You did have a choice, that was to prepare. Not having a choice means = you were forced to have SP2 installed without preparing. Here are a few = MS sites regarding preparations: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=3D842242 http://support.microsoft.com/default...S;windowsxpsp2 Here is a list of programs that MAY NOT function properly using SP2 (Updated 9/9) http://support.microsoft.com/default...uct=3Dwindows= xpsp2 There is an alphabetical list of hardware/softweare vendors and their = respective websites located at the bottom of this web page (as well as = the list of programs in this page), that are list under three different = links (one link for example is for hardware/software listed = alphabetically A-K, and so on). http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=3D842242 |
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-----Original Message----- "Herb Fritatta" wrote in message news:137b01c499aa$140af910 ... -----Original Message----- "MJ" wrote in message ... I did an incredibly dumb think last weekend. I installed Windows Service Pack 2 because I was informed that it was vital to install the security updates. My PC worked beautifully prior to SP2. It's a homebuilt beauty with an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, two SATA 250 GB hard drives, 2 IDEs, a DVD and CD burner with 1.5 GB of RAM. In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble since it resulted in crashing half my applications and then causing boot errors so that I couldn't even boot into windows, repeated automatic restarts, inability to fix using the worthless Recovery Console, resulting in my needing to recover my data form lost partitions, move my data all over the place... etc. etc. etc. what a bloody mess. I'm still not finished figuring it out but in the process of trying to resurrect my HD and reinstall windows through repair and then reinstall over the existing installation of windows (kept crapping out my PC), I have been informed that all my Windows XP "allocated installs" are used up. I had to call MS, give them a very long code, in order to obtain the ability to register my copy of XP. I'm told that EVERY time that I may have to reinstall I can look forward to this procedure and having to justify to Microsoft why I need another install key from them. Note to Microsoft: If this is an install issue then you should give me another 20 automatically when I say the phrase "Windows XP required full reinstalls after an 'update' caused my PC to crash and burn and require formatting and attempted restore/reinstalls." It's not a good feeling to be insecure about the fact that the money you plunked down now requires justification for further installation in the future. Sounds like a fairly new system, and totally up to specs for anything XP, including SP2, but you didn't prepare for it. You should have read here, or at MS for the "How Tos" for installing SP2 (or any major MS update/service pack) before installing it. If your hard drive crapped out, then it is a hardware problem, and should be relegated to the manufacturer for warranty. SP2, Windows (or any software for that matter) doesn't break hardware, people do, or time does! . You assume an awful lot. How do you know the OP didn't properly prepare? OP didn't state that she did prepare! I did, and I had very similar results. And note that the OP doesn't say anything about *mechanical* failure of his HD. The OP stated exactly that: "In one fell swoop it reduced my HD to rubble" HD to rubble sounds like destruction of the HD to me; software CANNOT destroy hardware. In any case, you complain about my reply due to your reading comprehension problems. But the OP did reply that she didn't lose the HD, so that was overblown on her part. Again, software CANNOT hurt hardware, only other softwares/drivers. The fact is, and I learned this the hard way, you can have a system that's running like a top, fully patched, fully protected, defragged, etc., etc. and SP2 can still make a mess of it. That is a fact, but very minimal for the many, and most (like 99.99%) bad cases are ill prepared installs, and not reading facts and preparations before installing SP2. It is clearly stated on the SP2 MS site what to do, and TO BACK UP ALL YOUR IMPORTANT DATA. You could simply put in a new driver from your card MF, and it could crash your system to that which could require a total install, it is the nature of things in the PC world, and they happen, and MS would still be the blame. Bitching about them, especially from not backing up one's data is not my problem, but I would help with it if I could. Just because *you* haven't had issues and *you* choose to swallow the line of crap about the wonderful "stability" of SP2 being spewed by MS and a few of the MVPs here doesn't mean that everyone should. Consider yourself fortunate, and remember that it's still early. My own time bomb didn't go off until a week after installation. Oh please! The OP has almost the same system I do, and I didn't any problems whatsoever. Many hardware MFs have updates for SP2 for their drivers. But still, the OP didn't check out here, or the MS sites regarding what to do. This isn't some little program that you install and run, it is a major update, and anyone with a modicum of PC knowledge would have troubled themselves with READING before INSTALLING! . This is almost too stupid for words. What are is a hardware "MF"? I know what "mf" stands for in my neighborhood, but I think maybe you meant "mfg." The OP didn't state that she did prepare? So this automatically means that she (he?)didn't? Nice logic. I said you were assuming too much, and you were. Same goes for the HD situation. You assumed mechanical failure when there was none in evidence. *My* reading comprehension problems? And once again, in a shining piece of evidence of your own inability to think straight, you say that you have "almost" the same system as the OP, and everything is fine. That's what's known as a nonsequitur. Also, keep in mind that a few days ago, I could have made the same statement, at least insofar as no problems with SP2 is concerned. And look, genius, I read everything there was to read before the update, not only did I read it, but I did so with a reasonable level of comprehension and experience. Provide a reliable source for your 99.9% figure, or go put your head back up your ass. |
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"Herb Fritatta" wrote in message = ... snipped already, a too long thread! =20 This is almost too stupid for words. What are is a=20 hardware "MF"? I know what "mf" stands for in my=20 neighborhood, but I think maybe you meant "mfg." LMAO! MF is (my) short response for manufacturer (mfg is short for = manufacturing), as you said you thought (is that possible for you?), but = you felt the need to make yourself sound stupid, and think it was = something else! While you're on the "This is too stupid" thing, what = kind of "stupid English" questions is, "What are is a hardware "MF"?" "are is a" Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!!!! =20 The OP didn't state that she did prepare? So this automatically means that she (he?)didn't? Nice logic. I=20 said you were assuming too much, and you were. Same goes=20 for the HD situation. You assumed mechanical failure when=20 there was none in evidence. *My* reading comprehension problems? And once again, in a shining piece of=20 evidence of your own inability to think straight, you say that you have "almost" the same system as the OP, and everything is fine. That's what's known as a nonsequitur. Also, keep in mind that a few days ago, I could have made the same statement, at least insofar as no problems with SP2 is concerned. Really, your inability to explain away "HD to rubble" speaks volumes, = but what about "non sequitur" (it is two separate words , stupid!), do = you really know the meaning of that term? And look, genius, I read everything there was to read before the update, not only did I read it, but I did so with a reasonable level of comprehension and experience. Provide a reliable source for your 99.9% figure, or go put your head back up your ass. Your penchant for ad-hominems is testament to your inability to do = simple PC setups. You can search my posts for %s, I won't do it for you. = If I am a genius, I more than exemplify the compliment, since I did = EXACTLY the preparations that you didn't, while you blame others for = your screw-ups! |
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-----Original Message----- "Herb Fritatta" wrote in message news:159201c499c0$a8127910 ... snipped already, a too long thread! This is almost too stupid for words. What are is a hardware "MF"? I know what "mf" stands for in my neighborhood, but I think maybe you meant "mfg." LMAO! MF is (my) short response for manufacturer (mfg is short for manufacturing), as you said you thought (is that possible for you?), but you felt the need to make yourself sound stupid, and think it was something else! While you're on the "This is too stupid" thing, what kind of "stupid English" questions is, "What are is a hardware "MF"?" Actually, "mfg." is an acceptable abbreviation for "manufacturer" although it makes no sense. Try and find me a source for "MF" as you used it. "are is a" Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!!!! Typo. Mea culpa. The OP didn't state that she did prepare? So this automatically means that she (he?)didn't? Nice logic. I said you were assuming too much, and you were. Same goes for the HD situation. You assumed mechanical failure when there was none in evidence. *My* reading comprehension problems? And once again, in a shining piece of evidence of your own inability to think straight, you say that you have "almost" the same system as the OP, and everything is fine. That's what's known as a nonsequitur. Also, keep in mind that a few days ago, I could have made the same statement, at least insofar as no problems with SP2 is concerned. Really, your inability to explain away "HD to rubble" speaks volumes, but what about "non sequitur" (it is two separate words , stupid!), do you really know the meaning of that term? Jesus. Have you ever heard of a metaphor? A figure of speech? Did you think that the OP's HD was a *literal* pile of rubble? I read it as "something bad happened." Nothing more. Suppose the OP had said, "My HD was reduced to ashes." Would you recommend keeping a fire extinguisher handy? And I am aware of the proper form of "non sequitur." Another typo. Mea culpa again. But you still haven't explained how one part of your thinking logically led to the next. And look, genius, I read everything there was to read before the update, not only did I read it, but I did so with a reasonable level of comprehension and experience. Provide a reliable source for your 99.9% figure, or go put your head back up your ass. Your penchant for ad-hominems is testament to your inability to do simple PC setups. You can search my posts for %s, I won't do it for you. If I am a genius, I more than exemplify the compliment, since I did EXACTLY the preparations that you didn't, while you blame others for your screw-ups! You have no way of knowing what preparation I did or didn't do. You suggested that 99.9% of "bad cases" are due to "ill-prepared" (I added the dash for you)installs. I asked you for evidence of same. I screwed nothing up. I was as well-prepared as it's possible to be except that I didn't have a drive image to fall back on. I did have a good data backup, however. The fact that I had to do a complete reinstall rather than just having to restore an image is my fault. |
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